Originally posted by Champagne

Thank for the post!! Is there anyone on ATS that has used, or is using, this stuff in addressing legal issues?? I would love to hear about it!!!

It takes most of us literally years to shed the illusions of our past matrix and begin to truly absorb what it means to be a free entity.

My friend that sent the link is one Sovereign being who has taken it to court and won. Yet there are many others sitting in prison who were unable to accomplish the same, so many factors have to be present and you have to fully understand the reality of working from the highest form of law.

Originally posted by Millions

What a total load of pish!

For a so-called judge to not know the difference between 'deceased' and 'diseased' is a joke. This is too badly written to be by a man who, as a former judge, would have needed a very high standard of education.

I am glad that you mention 'education' it is the real meat and bones of this entire issue and what they need for it to continue, if people become educated instead of propagated, healed instead of killed, then and only then will we begin to turn the tides on prosperity for all. This is a subject which you will begin to understand in the very near future, it really is simple, just so foreign to our upbringing it is shocking at first.

I do understand your aggression, but dont shoot the messenger for the language faux pas, just research the information OK?

Originally posted by corusso
Itneresting stuff, thanks.
But, IMO, what the elite didn't realize at the time this plan was started is the the human race is evloving faster than this plan can be played out. The new spiritually and mentally advanced human race will not let this happen. This change that is happening within us goes beyond governments, laws and money.

They really do all they can to keep us separated from them educationally. Yes people are evolving, but at the same time ignorance has never been greater nor useless idiots popping babies out in astronomical numbers, this always happens right before a huge purge of the bottom feeders of humanity by either war or famine, and now the real plot involves viruses and vaccines.

The stats lie, America is not even close to being the super power of educational excellence we think it is, in fact it is at or close to the bottom.

I think what may be needed here is a little back ground on Credit and Debit, brb.

These are some class notes that a good friend took and I will use here to emphasize just how we got into the situation we are. This is not the history as we are taught and in fact can be quite disturbing when you set out to discover these truths for yourself, as questions lead to answers which lead to more questions, at least that is what I have found.

If you find these of interest I will gladly share more of what I have learned in the past several months having this information given to me on a regular basis from people who have taken years to study this revealing paradigm.

As I said these are class notes from a friend and in the future I will use my own set of notes instead, just wanted to get this thread bumped up for now.

1776 Declaration of Independence was established, and through the Articles of Confederation, a sovereign republic was created. . The Republic lasted only 7 years.

1782 The National government went to the States and asked them to foot the bill for the Revolutionary War and the States said they would not pay the debt. National government was therefore forced to form a Constitution. The national government lost its sovereignty. A constitution (security, with sureties) is created by a constitutor – one who passes his debts to a 3rd party.

September 17, 1789 [original, up to 13 amendments (13th no titles of nobility) then ceased to exist] Constitution was a negotiable, debt, security instrument which the national debt was attached to. The King of England bought the debt (and legal title over the national government’s property) and the democracy was formed (and the Republic lost its sovereignty via international bankruptcy). The democracy operates under military tribunal laws, where the minute you’re charged, you’re guilty.

September 17, 1789 [original, up to 13 amendments (13th no titles of nobility) then ceased to exist] Constitution was a negotiable, debt, security instrument which the national debt was attached to. The King of England bought the debt (and legal title over the national government’s property) and the democracy was formed (and the Republic lost its sovereignty via international bankruptcy). The democracy operates under military tribunal laws, where the minute you’re charged, you’re guilty.

International bankruptcy lasts 70 years. At the end of the bankruptcy, the debt is due. The States had signed on as sureties for the debt.


1791 Alexander Hamilton created the Bank of the U.S. (with a 20 year charter) where the securities were held.

1811 Congress decided not to renew the Bank of the U.S.

1812 War of 1812 Britain took possession of all the federal courts (where the titles are).

1816 Another central bank but Andrew Jackson nixed it. The country operated at a surplus for the only time, but did he pay the debts or was he a belligerent debtor?

1859 Civil War – the northern States went to the Southern states which had most of the money (gold, cotton, resources, wealth) and the South said no we’re not paying – we’ll start our own country. Because of their dishonor with the international bankers, and it was the will of the creditors to get the debt paid or take sureties for the debt; hence the States lost their sovereignty – they had signed the first Constitution that secured the debt. Another bankruptcy; another 70 year process. Now the States were in dishonor, so now the international creditors took control of the State’s property and the States (who were surety for the debt) no longer had their sovereignty.

Debtors are not sovereign; creditors control. If you control any property, you have legal title to it; you are sovereign and the property is sovereign. Creditors are willing to risk it all. Creditors bring remedy, resolution, not necessarily FRNs.

1860’s new federal Constitution. Republic was insolvent or bankrupt. (Military) Democracy. Generals and even Privates have titles of nobility. U.S. citizens are all privates. New 13th Amendment: No Involuntary Servitude. The Republic, however, prior to that, is (still) in involuntary servitude which has created the entire international bankruptcy system.

1873(?) UPU precursor to NWO. All government exists by virtue of its postal system. Postal routes laid the foundation for commerce.

1909 Jekyll island - Federal Reserve, income tax in 1913. The IRS is foreign despite the fact that its employees are not. Taxes don’t go to operating the country; they go to pay the debt to the creditors. The creditors have surety through the Fed.

1929 Stock market crash. Bankruptcy due and we didn’t pay (dishonor) again. This time the people lost their sovereignty. There was confiscation of gold, silver and all legal (allodial) title. They also took title to your body through a certificate of title known as your birth certificate (which is a bond and goes to the Dept. of Commerce). They took it to give you a benefit. You can be irresponsible because they took control of the slaves on the plantation. The people (who were surety for the debt) lost their sovereignty. [Fascism is the government having all legal titles.]
[You can get legal title back.]

1933 Social Security. State has all legal title.
Everyone in JurA has an exemption and are creditors.
From the perspective of JoB, you’re presumed to be a debtor.

1999 State now not only has legal title to everything, but controls equitable title to almost everything, electronically.. We went from fascism to communism.

The Bible has many overlays – one is commercial. The sign of the cross is a ledger – assets on the left, liabilities on the right. Christianity is double entry bookkeeping. Jesus pre-paid your debt. Mason call the Bible the “sacred volume of law”.

7 years for a bankruptcy; 70 years for a commercial bankruptcy; 10 days, 3 days for a commercial process, etc. The Elites follow the Bible to a “T”. They’re the sons of Cain. The Garden of Eden is a commercial-free zone. In the Bible, one can charge usury only to foreigners. Wooden yoke is slavery at home; iron yoke is slavery in a foreign land. Sin is debt. If you come from anger, greed, etc., you’re a spiritual debtor. The deadliest sin is pride. Humility is the basic trait of a creditor. Creditors don’t take anything personal; they love. You, the authorized representative and trustee of the corporation are there to bring remedy. Don’t be an enemy (paper terrorist) of the State by misusing these powerful documents.

Everything in commerce comes from offers and acceptances.

This reminds me of how if you do the math (which I am very bad at) this year 2009 is the year that our debt is again due? In the past, in all history it has never been a good for the common man, the debtors.

With what we have read in the Op, does the plan this time not only include a Global depression but also a depopulation tactic such as the introduction of tainted vaccines to the debtors? Do you in fact have any right to protect yourself, your children or your property from what would seem to be illegal seizures of your being and or property?

If you are not a sovereign being, then who do you belong to? Who owns your children? And what right will you have to keep yourself free from abduction if that is what is ordered?

The time has come to either become free and soverein or accept as a slave the master's will.

I have used the UCC 1-207 to get out of a couple of debts and also in a court case. The judge questioned me to see if I really understood, argued a bit but l came out a winner.

I don't profess to understand all of the Roman citizenship thing and there is a lot to all this sovereignty business but it can be used successfully.

Now we know who we're up against on this website. The thing thats really sad for them is the fact that no matter which way they look at it, in the end, they're nothing but SLAVES as well.

Thanks for this post. Ive been trying to become a sovereign entity(more-so spiritually) but it ijs impossible staying in their game. Thanks for the links. I'll be comeing back and hopefully picking your brain if i can figure out this website.
Star ang Flag, and thanks again

I have been google searching this article alot and viewing comments on people who have the mental ability to research this and find out if its a crock or not and have found nothing.

IS THIS ARTICLE FAKE? read it as fiction?

or

IS THIS ARTICLE REAL? and . . . ?

I just do NOT UNDERSTAND -- IF THESE WARNINGS ARE TO BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY -- WHY ISNT MORE DISCUSSION GOING ON -- not only on this website or even the internet but EVERYWHERE

even if there is the faintest possibility of it being true it needs to be discussed

this is the bottom of the article (people seemed to focus on the stupid legal thing in the middle)

NOTE: As of June 2009, a former scientist, once employed by a large pharmaceutical company in the United States has disclosed that before resigning from his employer, former President Bush signed legislation that defers and eliminates the Federal Food and Drug Administration’s mandatory product testing; defers and eliminates disclosure of possible dangers to the public; and defers and eliminates civil liability on the part of the FDA and the pharmaceutical company.

NOTE: This scientist revealed that the President and Congress are expected to order mass vaccinations for a fictitious swine flu pandemic in the fall of 2009 and that the vaccine to be used contains small amounts of bird guano, a substance known to cause serious illness and death, and in several tests killed the lab animals that were injected. This scientist suggested that most of the soldiers who have died in the Middle East conflict, have died from these vaccinations, but no one is talking!

NOTE: The people who have died of “swine flu” so far died because they were vaccinated with the vaccine that is planned to be given to the American population in the fall of 2009 and half of the World’s population. The World Health Organization is expected to declare a pandemic and will request that President Obama and Congress order mandatory vaccinations in the United States. Anyone who refuses to take the “death vaccine” will be arrested as a Terrorist and will be committed into internment camps. As a Terrorist, no one is permitted a lawyer, a hearing or a judge, pursuant to the new Patriot Act passed by Congress after 911. The World Health Organization is owned by and is under the direction of the Rockefeller and Rothschild families. Do you now see the pattern unfolding?

NOTE: Police officers, Sheriff’s Deputies, U. S. Military personnel and their families will not escape this mass genocide! All will be compelled to take the “death vaccine” right along with the rest of the general public. My guess is that the federal or state governments will install another police authority to replace our Police, Sheriff’s Deputies and Military. My belief is that they will be using Army personnel of the USSR and China. These armies are now occupying former military bases in each state that were closed down under the guise of budget cuts. Fort Dix in New Jersey is now occupied by a battalion of the Russian Army. I don’t know which bases are being occupied in the other states.

NOTE: One closed military base in each state, has also been converted into an “Internment Camp.” The Halliburton Corporation was hired by the federal government to modify each base and install maximum security buildings. Why would the United States require so many large Internment Camps? One camp should be sufficient. Because these camps are expected to receive thousands of innocent Americans who simply refuse to submit to the “death vaccine.”

NOTE: Homeland Security is in charge of these camps and, since 911, they have been training personnel to man these facilities. According to one informant, the personnel have been told that those committed into their custody are members of a home-grown terrorist organization suspected of inflicting biological warfare upon America. The innocent people shot or interned will be blamed for the planned mass genocide being committed by our own government leaders. The “want ads” in the newspapers and on the internet by Homeland Security, seeking to employ people to help fight Terrorism, are the jobs they are attempting to fill at these internment camps.

I do not understand what your saying with your mysterious words... this is serious

I have been reading literally the entire day for the past 5 days (since I have been made more aware of everything)

Originally posted by knightsof0ld
I do not understand what your saying with your mysterious words... this is serious

I have been reading literally the entire day for the past 5 days (since I have been made more aware of everything)

OK - 5 days isn't long. Fair enough - Ive been researching and so on for a few years - so ..

As far as I can tell the threat is very real. These guys control everything - they own all the money - they simply use it as a tool to control people and perhaps control assets.

They are probably going to kill off most people in America - seems likely. If that is going to happen - it will commence very soon.

They use the US military to enforce their will on any country that resists them - and they control the press - so they make those countries into your enemies - such as Iraq, Iran, North Korea, Venezuela etc - not your enemies, in fact your allies.

What can you do? Don't take the vaccine I think - get some elderberry extract and some vitamins - get plenty of sunlight to protect yourself from the flu.

Stock up on food, grow food is better, if you can get some system to condense water that can run without electricity - do that. Get some guns - get some silver - if you can - I always suggest getting lots of credit cards and using up all the credit and spending it on silver - then default on it - don't know if thats to your taste or not.

Things are probably going to happen fairly soon - so thats about all I can offer. If you can leave your country - then maybe consider Australia, Canada maybe - something - I wouldn't be staying in the US right now.