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posted on Sep, 15 2009 @ 02:45 PM
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I cannot load the link either.




posted on Sep, 15 2009 @ 02:47 PM
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Hmmm...it appears to be down at the moment...

I wouldn't be surprised if was getting a DOS attack...a lot of the blogging sites are getting attacked these days...


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posted on Sep, 15 2009 @ 02:53 PM
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Ok I will be back after dinner, there are other sites on the net now showing this same email so if you want wait I will be back or do a simple search.

Thankyou for your posts.



posted on Sep, 15 2009 @ 03:16 PM
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Thankyou for posting the thread and link....S&F

Wish more people could become aware of our status here as

"slaves" . Maybe more could "unplug" so to speak from the daily

matrix we call life! Now that we have served our purpose tptb

sure have a comtemptable end for us, don't they?







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posted on Sep, 15 2009 @ 03:48 PM
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Proto

Can you expound further on what you were referring to? Specifically, how to bring the Magna Carter into play and your Roman Citizenship, as well as the Treaty of Paris?

I find this highly intriguing. I am a long time truth seeker and have never stumbled upon what you speak of.

Thanks

DJ



posted on Sep, 15 2009 @ 03:56 PM
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Im new to these theories and am curious about something. I read so much but... What are we going to do about this? I mean is this just going to happen? Is there something that will happen to prevent it? I mean I wish I could believe all the 2012 "Big Change" stuff... but its not too convincing. I'm very confused yet unhappy with the world we live in.



posted on Sep, 15 2009 @ 04:10 PM
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Interesting read, but it reeks of fraud.

Some very good points and things to ponder, but the spelling errors are too much to overcome for a judge, and statements like:



"We Americans are so proud of the fact that we live in a Democracy! Now look up the word “Democracy” in a reputable Law Dictionary and see the legal meaning. Democracy is defined as: “A Socialist form of government and another form of Communism.”"


I have several reputable law dictionaries, and not a single one of them defines democracy in this way. Too many "out there" statements like this for it to be truly believable or real.

Does NO ONE see any of this? Is anyone even looking for reason to think that this might be total fiction or just reading it and taking it for face value?

It's scary and entertaining, and some of it in theory makes a lot of sense. But other parts of it read just plain wacko to me. Am I the only one here that thinks this? Please tell me no.



posted on Sep, 15 2009 @ 04:23 PM
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"Under our corporate governments no Sovereign can lawfully be tried or convicted of any statutory crime. I recently discovered how to avoid prosecution under the Trust when a Sovereign is taken before a corporate prosecuting attorney or a judge:"

It would seem that if this were true that many more powerful people that have been convicted of crimes and are now serving time would have used this method to avoid the charges.

Just my opinion but who the heck knows.



posted on Sep, 15 2009 @ 05:03 PM
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I think it would be pertinent to people in positions of power to avoid the sovereign defense. If they did, it would get publicity. If it got publicity, it would go viral. If it went viral, the slaves would be free. The slaves being free is obviously anything but in the best interest of the people in power.



posted on Sep, 15 2009 @ 05:18 PM
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Originally posted by nonnez
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"Under our corporate governments no Sovereign can lawfully be tried or convicted of any statutory crime. I recently discovered how to avoid prosecution under the Trust when a Sovereign is taken before a corporate prosecuting attorney or a judge:"

It would seem that if this were true that many more powerful people that have been convicted of crimes and are now serving time would have used this method to avoid the charges.

Just my opinion but who the heck knows.



Very often why people of power would not evoke their sovereignty and would accept punishment is so that under the Roman system, their families can continue to enjoy their wealth.

In other words more powerful sovereigns could eliminate the person through a bullet, and by stealing their wealth, or killing them and their family and stealing their wealth.

However if you accept your punishment in a way that does not cause embarassment to the state, to the other conspirators, and go away quietly, your family is safe, and we will allow your family to keep a portion or all of your wealth.

Remember that the establishments control is all based on the illusion of it's control. Anything that destroys that illusion from within the establishment is detrimental to the establishment and the coowners and conspirators...you got caught with your hand in the cookie jar, you have all eyes on us Mr. Leigh of Enron, go home to and kill yourself (which in his case he did or appears to) or go to prison to protect us all and your family, and your family's wealth from us.

That is why a Leigh or a Madoff will go quietly when they get their hand caught in the cookie jar.



posted on Sep, 15 2009 @ 05:26 PM
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Can you refer us to any civil or criminal court case where a party did what is suggested in the material that you quote from abundanthope.net. Not likely. But if so, please post as much information as you can including the full case name, court name, case number, pleadings, all court papers, a transcript of the hearing, and the orders and judgments closing the case.

I fear for anyone who tries that and expects anything but a having their sanity questioned and being ordered to subjuect themselves to thorough menatl evaluation to determine whether they are competent to proceed further or should be comitted until they are. That's a reckless and dangerous thing to encourage others to do.

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posted on Sep, 15 2009 @ 05:36 PM
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Originally posted by dimensionaljumper
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Proto

Can you expound further on what you were referring to? Specifically, how to bring the Magna Carter into play and your Roman Citizenship, as well as the Treaty of Paris?

I find this highly intriguing. I am a long time truth seeker and have never stumbled upon what you speak of.

Thanks

DJ


These are all very simple things to do once you know about them and how simple they are.

First the Magna Carter limits the power of the Monarch to imprison you at will with no charge. Read the Magna Carter, know what's in it, and point out that clause limiting the Monarch's power to establish the precedent that does limit the monarch's power over you.

The Treaty of Paris in Article V and VI prohibits the impeding of your liberty or movement from state to state as a result of the Revolutionary War. In other words none of the 600,000 laws on the books existed before the Revolutionary War, there fore they are a direct result of the Revolutionary War, and you become an injured party of the Revolutionary War when any of those 600,000 laws are used to infringe on your liberty or impede your traveling from state to state.

If you declare yourself an injured party of the Revolutionary War, you have 1 year to move about the nation unimpeded to settle your affairs at that time you must leave the nation.

Roman law and Roman Courts like Roman Theatres and Coliseums are all about spectacle and performance. The other people must be entertained by your plight; if you entertain them suitably it is thumbs up, if you don't entertain them well it is thumbs down.

As a true Roman you are obligated to put on a performance, Encyclopedia Articles on the Ancient Roman Court System and Law will give you detailed classic examples of how to do this and the Latin Words to classify various ploys and performances, evoke the Latin words for the ploy you are about to stage for the court, which identifies it as nothing but a ploy, but signals that you are about to put on a show and a performance and what will be in that show and performance, then play the part well of what that ploy calls for, if it calls for tears and pleas of mercy, cry like an infant and get down on your knees, if it calls for haughty laughter and a reason as to why the State benefited from what you did, laugh and put on a grandiose show of how your crime generated wealth for you and wealth for the state and the state is all the better for it and not worse off etc, etc.

Romans, true Romans crave entertainment, entertain them well, they are happy and will give you thumbs up, entertain them poorly, it's thumbs down.

There are multiple sets of laws in play and you must know and beat them all.

1. Corporate
2. Constitutional
3. Nature's
4. Kings
5. Roman

You will have to defeat one, evoke the other, evoke yet another, defeat yet another, and then gain approval for your actions in the last by being entertaining and either displaying how the state has not suffered a loss or in Reality how the State has gained from your so called crimes.

If you do it well, you will eventually get to Roman Law, and if you entertain the Court well you will be absolved of your crimes.

Citizens of Rome have real rights, being a citizen of Rome only requires one thing, and that is that you are in fact in Rome, and when you are in any Court of Law the World over, whether it be Washington D.C., Quebec, London, Beijing, Moscow, Tel Aviv, Tehran, Bangkok, New Delhi or Johannesburg you are in Rome.

I myself have done this and beat Federal Sentencing Guidelines that can not be beat.

Like I said earlier, I got a great part, I really shouldn't complain but the story really does suck!



posted on Sep, 15 2009 @ 05:47 PM
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This may help....

Links via Google

Direct link to new source www.rumormillnews.com...

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posted on Sep, 15 2009 @ 06:53 PM
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Can anyone here explain how to claim our God given rights to become a sovereign person? This has always intrigued me and I know it has many pitfalls, but it sure seems like a way to avoid a forced vaccination and elimination of competition to the "Corporation".

All in all I think this was a good read. Some things did raise my B.S. flag especially towards the end. Again, another person with pictures of FEMA coffins. They are not coffins for the umpteenth time. Especially the ones in Georgia. Not sure about the ones in N.J as I have not seen a picture. The black scary looking "coffin looking" things in Georgia are burial vaults. The powers that be aren't concerned about perpetual care of a cemetery when they bury your unvaccinated butt. Your going to get cremated, along with a bunch of other patriots that went down swinging.



posted on Sep, 15 2009 @ 08:10 PM
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Originally posted by Hx3_1963
Hmmm...it appears to be down at the moment...

I wouldn't be surprised if was getting a DOS attack...a lot of the blogging sites are getting attacked these days...


[edit on 9/15/2009 by Hx3_1963]


I converted the entire article to a PDF Format just in case for some reason the site or the article can't be accessed later.

If the site doesn't come back up anyone who wants a copy of it let me know and I will figure out a way to post the entire article to the media center or U2U it.



posted on Sep, 15 2009 @ 08:26 PM
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Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler

That is why a Leigh or a Madoff will go quietly when they get their hand caught in the cookie jar.



Exactly Proto! Great post. Keep in mind folks everything you've heard about these secretive criminals. They all have something on each other that can be used to shut down and discredit a traitor. Skull & Bones rituals for instance. They keep their friends close.

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posted on Sep, 15 2009 @ 08:32 PM
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Thanks for the post Antar. I'm working through the piece and have some qualms about some of the information like others here. All in all mostly believable and useful concepts.


Perhaps this was not a judge and that title was simply to add credence to what was being said.



posted on Sep, 15 2009 @ 09:27 PM
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Antar, thank you kindly for sharing the abundanthope link.

The material provided therein is immensely knowledgeable and enlightening to say the very least. My interest was piqued not only whilst reading the article you had pointed out (of which is quite a lengthy read in and of itself), but also while reading the transcriptions from the sessions with Esu, Christ Michael, and Adama. Interesting indeed.

There is a vast amount of information located there; I am very pleased that you shared it. Thanks, again.




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posted on Sep, 15 2009 @ 10:24 PM
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S&F to the OP, good post. As a Freeman on the Land, I knew maybe half of the information in the article, and I have been a student of the Constitution and the Common Law for many years now. I really like this part....


Under our corporate governments no Sovereign can lawfully be tried or convicted of any statutory crime. I recently discovered how to avoid prosecution under the Trust when a Sovereign is taken before a corporate prosecuting attorney or a judge:

First: “the Sovereign must inquire if we are on the record, and if not, insist upon it! Say nothing, sign nothing and answer no questions until you are convinced that the proceedings are being recorded!”

Secondly: all a Sovereign has to say for the record is: “I am a beneficiary of the Trust, and I am appointing you as my Trustee.”

Thirdly: the Sovereign then directs his Trustee to do his bidding! “As my Trustee, I want you to discharge this matter I am accused of and eliminate the record.”

Fourthly: if the Sovereign suffered any damages as a result of his arrest, he can direct that the Trust compensate him from the proceeds of the Court by saying; “I wish to be compensated for [X] dollars, in redemption.”

This statement is sufficient to remove the authority and jurisdiction from any prosecuting attorney or judge. The accused will be immediately released from custody with a check, license or claim he identifies as a damage. It doesn’t matter what the action involves or how it is classified by the corporate law as a civil or criminal action. It works every time! All of the Codes, Statutes and Regulations throughout the United States are a Will from the Masters to their Slaves. A Will is defined as, “An express command used in a dispositive nature.” When individuals in America are charged with a crime and warehoused in a jail, it is because they went against the Will of the Masters and not because they harmed another person. Remember that: The Will demands from us all that we are; keeps us in check; and promises us nothing!


I have always used a different approach to this, but I like this approach a lot better! I always used the jurisdiction issue, and put the police officer on the stand and ask where his/her power and authority comes from. (That always say the State, which is an Act of Congress, not a place or land of any kind. You can bet I will be trying this out in court.
Thanks for posting this important information. Love and Light, Autowrench



posted on Sep, 16 2009 @ 12:08 AM
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I dunno man . . .

this seems kind of out there, IMO.





 
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