It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.
Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.
Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.
Originally posted by jester1211
First off, the pyramids and much of ancient Egypt was built by the Jews when we were enslaved. Second off with the exception of a small portion of the continent (Egypt), Africa was full of sickness and poverty way before the white man. They just had such a low life expectancy this issue was never made apparent
2) Behavior: You will not behave in an abusive, hateful and/or racist manner, and will not harass, threaten, nor attack anyone.
Originally posted by jester1211
How about the fact that many blacks (and notice I said many) have no career goals or any aspirations to do anything to further their career goals, and therefore have an exorbitant amount of time to focus on much less important things such as sports.
Originally posted by captaintyinknots
While it comes across as racist
Originally posted by Lurch
Having been to West Africa on business on two occasions and having met many Africans living and working the UK, I can say that the majority of those guys are in good physical shape, probably more so than your average European male. They tend to be pretty tall and muscular - obviously there are exceptions. Also there are differences depending on where you go in Africa. Somebody from le Cote d'Ivoire in the West will look different to somebody from Ethiopia in the East, who in turn will look different to somebody from Tunisia in the North. Remember that Africa is a huge continent and there are many cultural and genetic differences throughout the continent. In my experience I would say that West Africans tend to be the most physically imposing people on the continent, followed by Central Africans - I hate making generalisations but I think that's about right. Incidentally, I would guess that the majority of slaves were taken from West Africa. As has been mentioned, East Africans (from Kenya and Ethiopia in particular) clearly tend to make the best long distance runners.
Why all this is the case is up for debate but I can guarentee you that it has nothing to do with slavery. I say this because, as I explained, I have met many born and raised Africans (whose ancestors were not taken to the Americas as slaves) who are just as physically impressive as many African-Americans. And if the Africans were exposed to the kind of facilities, coaches, training techniques, diet etc that African-American sportsmen grow up with in the States, no doubt that the Africans (and I mean born and raised Africans) could dominate the NFL, NBA etc.
Most Africans don't care for US sports though, the main sporting passion in Africa is football/soccer. This sport is seen by millions in Africa as a gateway out of poverty. There are many, many professional African footballers playing all over the world, many at the top level, such as Didier Drogba (Cote d'Ivoire) and Michael Essien (Ghana) who are widely considered as two of the best players in the world. Interestingly, traditionally the best African teams tend to come from the West, such as Cote d'Ivoire, Cameroon, Nigeria and Ghana. Cote d'Ivoire are even being talked about as an outside bet to win the World Cup, hosted in South Africa next year. Of course there are many African sportsmen from across the continent performing at the highest level of their chosen sport.
Maybe there is something in the water in West Africa but the fact, as I have illustrated above, that there are MANY successful sportsmen/athletes and MANY physically fit Africans, whose ancestors were not enslaved, proves, in my opinion, that slavery is a red herring when you are trying to figure out why African-Americans dominate US sport. Many American's seem to be ignorant about Africa, maybe you should take a trip to West Africa, could be an eye-opener for you and I bet you have a good time.
Originally posted by Lannock
My point being that IMO blacks would be less intelligent because they come from hotter climates.
[edit on 16-9-2009 by Lannock]
I would like to propose that the reason for black success in their athletic pursuits, their higher levels of testosterone, and their inclining position in sports, is the resulting factors of the triangle slave trade and American slavery
With only the top third of blacks surviving the Trans-Atlantic slave trade, not to mention New Worlders only selecting the strongest looking individuals in the first place, it is no wonder that Blacks have come along to dominate the most prevalent sports
Jews were enslaved for many thousand years but we never let it get the best of it, in fact it helped us grow as a people.
Blacks were enslaved for less than 200 and they think the world owes them a living.
here are obvious benefits of slavery...how about the fact that if it were not for slavery the mass majority of blacks would not be in the world's most prosperous nation. That this nation would not be as prosperous as it is now if it were not for slavery. They have so many more oppurtunities now then they would have if it were not for slavery (they would still be in Africa living in famine and disease). This is not racist, it's just a fact.
Originally posted by cenpuppie
You my friend aren't racist, and you can feel better about it coming from a black dude. It's what i've been saying for awhile, the only reason why black folks have a physical edge when it comes to sports is the because of the time spent in slavery.
Slaves were breed and mated like livestock.
But don't feel to bad, there was a white guy, in sports, who said the same thing and the media pretty much drummed him out?
MY question is how is it racist to infer that blacks actually got a physical "leg-up" during slavery? I mean damn, that's the only thing my ancestors got, well that and a ticket the most kick ass country in the world but i digress..
Great post S&F for you!