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posted on Sep, 15 2009 @ 02:59 PM
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What's really frustrating to me is all these demands for proof of our claims from debunkers and skeptics, when you furnish them with the glaringly obvious, they ignore it all together or ridicule it with ad hominems and Star Trek comments (and it is allowed). I don't know how many threads I have seen over the years on 9-11 that have compelling and outright damning information just gather dust. You bump them from time to time, and nothing happens.
I saw one poster recently refer to this as cherry picking, and indeed it is. They pick out the new members, or the ones who aren't technically saavy enough to dig through eight years of research, and completely railroad them, but when you post something like this it's all crickets and silence.

See those huge explosions? (chirp chirp chirp chirp)




posted on Sep, 15 2009 @ 03:57 PM
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Originally posted by arcnaver
Looks kinda like the tip portion of the tower pancaked down through the lower Portion. As if the outer support structures near the fires gave way suddenly. Almost like the fire weakened it. Then a Gian Skull ejected itself from the middle of it and waved.

Interesting. Actually, it looks like the official story was correct to me, minus the giant skull. Thats the true conspiracy in my opinion. Demonic.



Yep.. Occams razor man... Occams razor...





posted on Sep, 15 2009 @ 04:35 PM
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Originally posted by star in a jar
The link now has problems in IE: now it plain won't start the download, like firefox... This should not happen, this is abnormal.

Could you re-up using filer.cx?



[edit on 15-9-2009 by star in a jar]


Just for you
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www.filer.cx...



posted on Sep, 15 2009 @ 04:41 PM
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'Yep.. Occams razor man... Occams razor... '

This is completely laughable!

Pull out 'Occams Razor' and the official story becomes TRUTH!!







[edit on 15-9-2009 by hairy1]



posted on Sep, 15 2009 @ 09:34 PM
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Wow, virtual dub is awesome sauce, thank you OP
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posted on Sep, 16 2009 @ 06:44 AM
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This is the first time I've seen actual evidence to support an explosion, clearly something exploded and initiated the collapse, the small bursts in the upper floors sold it for me.



posted on Sep, 16 2009 @ 08:11 AM
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How exactly were the WTC towers rigged for demolition in such a manner that no one working in the offices within these buildings noticed anything unusual?
An empty building 1/4 that size marked for destruction by specialists takes weeks if not months of preparation, during which the entire structure is gutted while the explosives are placed.



posted on Sep, 16 2009 @ 04:10 PM
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Originally posted by Darth Logan
How exactly were the WTC towers rigged for demolition in such a manner that no one working in the offices within these buildings noticed anything unusual?
An empty building 1/4 that size marked for destruction by specialists takes weeks if not months of preparation, during which the entire structure is gutted while the explosives are placed.


Well i`m no expert on these matters but from a few situations that arose beforehand we have these, prior to 9/11 the computer rooms had excess work done to them, it involved new machines and dozens upon dozens of batteries appeared, such was the weight of these batteries that the floors had to be reinforced, interesting food for thought here is that both impacts hit around the computer room storeys........



Also there was intensive ceiling tile replacements, these also could contain explosives and would explain 110 acres of concrete being turned to dust.

We also have the work being undertaken a few months previous where entire floors were shut off to the public, the power down weekend and the removal of sniffer dogs.

Bush`s brother was on the board of the security firm that used to be in charge of the complex`s security, here laid a great opportunity.

Window cleaners cradle and outside - It`s a well known fact that the floor truss seat fixings were attached to the exterior steel sections, here you can wire the fixings that - 1). Detach the floor trusses. 2). Detach the steel exterior sections.

A reminder of why the 1st thing John O`Neill done when taking over as security Chief was to call an emergency meeting on the appalling security situation there........................

whatreallyhappened.com...

Lack of security, access to any part of the building at any time, years to wire everything, this whole aspect really does not warrant attention any more tbh, there are so many scenarios to cover any aspect of wiring the buildings, this was years in the planning, it took what it had to take.



posted on Sep, 16 2009 @ 04:19 PM
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Originally posted by Darth Logan
An empty building 1/4 that size marked for destruction by specialists takes weeks if not months of preparation, during which the entire structure is gutted while the explosives are placed.


Thats with what the every day demo guy has to do. The U.S. military has stuff that doesn't need all that gutting, nor needs to be perfectly placed either.

We have Zero idea of what tech the military is holding.

Besides the point Core columns and other key aread to target of a building are not in plain sight to anyone walking around and working in the building, just wouldn't be astetically pleasing. This is what they have mechanic shafts, and catwalks, and areas for. Which with Jeb Busch on security, I think he could get the normal security some paid vacation time a few weeks before 9/11.

Also wasn't there many witnesses who mentioned alot of constructions going on inside the building during the weeks leadingh up to the attacks?

Also I really don't think white collar Jasper from 73 A is gonna question a 250 pound construction worker ,makeing trips carrying stuff he could only dream of lifting , where he's going and whats his business there? Neither would shy Doris on Floor 81, she was probably just looking at the Construction workers biceps, and behind, and thinking thoughts that she's gonna have to fess up to in her next confessional.

I mean really Not to mention you have a virtual flying Bomb hitting each building at a fairly vunerable point. Of course, 20th floor would be optomal, but only Hani could have pulled something like that off, hell Hani Hanjour could have probably hung a left on 7th, and headed down to to the Village, flying sideways to fit between the building, and reach his target. I mean after what he "supposedly pulled off at the pentagon.

But anyway, back to the point, you have two planes filled/fitted with lord knows what, to add to your advanced micro nukes, which are 50 years ahead of the publics idea of technology. I'm wouldn't think it'd be too hard of a job for them to take those buildings down.

[edit on 16-9-2009 by Nola213]



posted on Sep, 16 2009 @ 04:44 PM
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What more proof do they need more?



posted on Sep, 17 2009 @ 02:01 AM
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Well, now a fair few of you have VirtualDub, don`t forget to post any findings
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posted on Sep, 17 2009 @ 02:15 AM
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I'd like to view this but I'm not going to download this from an unknown site with a "please put these letters in the box here" site. Please provide a better source to download/stream from or embed a *working* video on ATS. Thanks!



posted on Sep, 17 2009 @ 12:02 PM
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hello i am new to ats and do not know where to be posting this. I am looking for a video i had seen a long time ago that talked about how we are imprisoned in the working system since birth and some just accept it. Then it also went on to talk about the illuminati, and banking families bloodlines. If someone could point me in the right direction or even knows the video I will be very grateful. Thank you



posted on Sep, 17 2009 @ 03:05 PM
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Originally posted by Wookiep
I'd like to view this but I'm not going to download this from an unknown site with a "please put these letters in the box here" site. Please provide a better source to download/stream from or embed a *working* video on ATS. Thanks!


The video in the package is mpeg so it works with VirtualDub, if I embed it here it gets converted to flv which VD cannot read, hence the package
, it`s a fairly simple task converting films anyway so here s the link for the CNN Naudet brothers film (use a MSM film wherever possible it really does save a lot of trouble believe me)...

video.google.com...#

Link for VirtualDub.....

sourceforge.net...

If you need conversion software this is really easy to use.....

www.any-video-converter.com...

Hope this helps.



posted on Sep, 17 2009 @ 06:23 PM
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Originally posted by fatcatgarybrown
hello i am new to ats and do not know where to be posting this. I am looking for a video i had seen a long time ago that talked about how we are imprisoned in the working system since birth and some just accept it. Then it also went on to talk about the illuminati, and banking families bloodlines. If someone could point me in the right direction or even knows the video I will be very grateful. Thank you


Not sure if you meant the KGB film, here it is anyway, interesting viewing..

www.youtube.com...



posted on Sep, 18 2009 @ 01:10 PM
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this is kinda the same

Notice the smoke coming out higher than the floors that are breaking apart at 1:20

[edit on 18-9-2009 by conar]



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