Dulce, New Mexico - Important Data that You ATS People DON'T Have Yet!!

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posted on Oct, 22 2014 @ 11:09 AM
a reply to: Phage

Thanks for the post!

"But with their underdeveloped frontal lobes, what do you expect?"

Yes, I know the FBI has passed a law punishing folks who point a laser at an aircraft in flight. This is stupid and irresponsible, since even temporarily blinding a pilot could cause a crash.

This goes back to the last century, when a certain irresponsible UFO-enthusiast was selling tickets to his conferences about how to "interact with" or "force" a reaction from a UFO. The idea was to "flash" some sort of simple numerical code, and see if the UFO responded. He started with laser pointers, then changed to handheld flashlights.

So now teenagers are big into "flashing" UFOs, and are thrilled to see it stop/hover and maybe "flash" a response. Like I said earlier, according to the Russian "Red Book" of Alien Species, most of what interacts with Earth today are kidnappers, slavers and cannibals. Kids need to STOP trying to force an interaction with an unknown ET species - least "something" shows up in their bedroom that night.

edit on 22-10-2014 by MKMoniker because: clarify

posted on Oct, 23 2014 @ 05:54 AM
I am really happy that you all appreciate this map. It's been some years since I put it up and I haven't gone to Dulce to check it out. I was in Southern Colorado a few weeks ago and I ended up within 15 miles where the black hanger is in the forest south of Pagosa Springs, but my friend was frightened to go so we didn't check it out.

Anyway, I think more attention needs to be directed to Navajo Peak in Southern Colorado (I believe there are multiple Navajo Peak's in Colorado). I made a map that showed an 18 mile equilateral triangle with one corner on the school in Dulce, one corner on the Black Hanger near Pagosa, and the other corner of the triangle on the door that appeared to be in the top of Navajo Peak.

What is strange is now this door is not in the google satellite maps. At the time I first posted on ATS here, I found it on old maps from what I thought were different satellites and slightly different angles. This "door" image some years after I posted this map here in this thread seemed to become replicated on the google maps of the general Dulce area so that it began to appear as an "Artifact" many times on the map. I don't think that it was originally all over the map, and I don't think that now it is there at all.

It definitely isn't showing the door looking structure on the top of Navajo Peak on google maps anymore.

But like I said, this mountain just calls to me, it could be intuition. It's remote, and I think if there are experimental planes being flown near Dulce it's more likely that they are at this nearby mountain because there are so much less people to see it.

Anyway I was looking at a map of the area and I noticed this weird path of what looks like full grown, knocked down, and stacked trees that leads almost 4 miles from the Navajo river to within less than a quarter mile of the geographic point where I had that mountain top door marked out all those years ago. I think this line of knocked down trees needs to be newer because I feel that I'd have noticed it before when I made these maps. It is very obvious from the satellite images that someone went through a lot of trouble for this:


These knocked down trees could be due to logging, but there is no evidence of heavy truck activity. There are also other areas I have marked on the map where there seems to be an uncommonly high amount of felled trees. It's possible that all these trees are stacked to form a road? This doesn't seem likely because there are lots of dirt roads in the area, and anyway the line of trees does not follow the terrain, so it'd make a terrible road. It is possible that the trees are knocked down as a property marker but it seems like quite an effort to knock down and stack a ton of full grown trees instead of just getting some barbed wire. In some parts there do not appear to be any trees but the path is still clearly demarcated from the satellite view, so the road must get some usage.

Whatever the reason, these stacks of trees restrict cars from passing beyond this line so not even your jeep is going to get over a big stack of Ponderosa Pine trees.

Any other ideas for a reasoning behind this anybody?

I really want to explore this area but I need to find some maps and see who owns the land.

If anybody has the time I did not have the time as I made this map to check out every inch of the path fully zoomed in, but I will later.
edit on 23-10-2014 by Firefoot because: (no reason given)

posted on Oct, 23 2014 @ 06:47 AM
I've been following this thread for 5 years. I remember when you first posted it. I thought it was very intelligent research. I actually downloaded the .kmz and had it in my Google Earth until I got a new computer early this year. This also spurred my interest in Dulce and D.U.M.B.S as a whole.

I hope you get a chance to check the place out. Also, I'm not sure if you know that you can revert back to older maps in Google Earth. I don't have it open or remember what the option is, but it's in the top nav bar. Probably, "View" or something like that.

posted on Oct, 24 2014 @ 12:39 AM
Good stuff!

Snapmouse writes like Gabe Valdez is still alive...(hes passed away a while back)
Whatever other info is then suspect tho I aint callin ya out Mousey...just sayin...
There are multi new new users on this thread....maybe because us old hands have heard much of this stuff before...but......could be gov boys too.....
The earthquake data could be better interpreted by True American as to the wavey lines having a P wave that defines natural earthquakes or not....
Apparently explosions are NOT the same as quakes on a seismograph...different profile waves...from what I can gather...
Theres a few other observations I could make....but for the sake of brevity here ya go.....

posted on Oct, 24 2014 @ 01:40 AM
a reply to: Firefoot

If that don't smack all the silly outta me (MAJOR FACEPALM). I took the 64 all the way up...only to be stopped and turned around...which was an extremely creepy stop. I was traveling from Indianapolis, IN, on my way back to So Cal. I thought I was taking a shortcut. My supposed shortcut began in Kansas. I thought I was following my map (I was, I just followed it wrong!) In this section of my travel (with my 3 kids in tow) I started west on the 25...went 84 north to the 64...I didn't realize that I had missed my turn long before which I thought would take me to the 40 west. Dam!!!

On my way to Indy from So. Cal., I thought I was taking a shortcut as well. Boy, was I wrong...totally wrong. I travelled some crazy highway that went through the middle of Kansas, this highway said "Home of Dorothy, this way" or something like that. After ditching 2 tornadoes that seemed to follow me no matter which way I went for over an hour....you would have thought I would just stick to the highways afterwards right!

Obviously not! On my way back home to So Cal, I saw some really strange crap! Very strange indeed. There's some really crazy $h!t out the way. Never again will I ever, ever go that way again.

Moral of my story is to please check your Thomas Guide before you set out cross country. Especially, if you think you're taking a shortcut.

edit on 10/24/14 by ThePublicEnemyNo1 because: Spelling

posted on Oct, 25 2014 @ 09:16 AM
Hi , so I just signed up today but I've been following the threads here.
Did you guys ever notice that the description of black eyed kids is that they are olived skinned. And some native Americans have a tannish skin color. Do you think that maybe those kids are products of experiments in dulce?
Because if they did use humans if Id think the locals would be the easiest to get their hand on. They could be hybrids like the ones said to be made there.

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