Originally posted by endisnighe
I wanted people to lay out why they think it was necessary or unnecessary and I get a blah blah blah. And an attack on why you, are smarter than
And that is precisely what you got! It was not off topic at all, according to your own quote above. Although apparently you'd only rather hear what
you want to hear and not hear reasons why those would think it unnecessary. Rather than resort to personal attacks, perhaps you should have stated
that you only wanted people to lay out why they agree with you instead of disagree with you.
There is a reason why Sedition is considered Treason and why laws like the Sedition Acts got passed and legislation such as the Violent Radicalization
and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007 gets approved. Be careful because your First Amendment Rights to Free Speech don't pertain when it
crosses the line in violation of the Tenth Amendment, and you start promulgating Sedition.
The Framers of our Government, our Forefathers, had foresight and gave the People the means for peaceful Reform, so that blood never need again be
shed for the hopes and promise of Freedom.
Just because the system has been misused and abused by those in Power doesn't mean that the system cannot be used to restore the Balance. That was
what it was designed to do. If you don't like something, and the majority of the people stand behind you, then you can use the system to bring about
long-term and lasting change. If you don't like something about our government, and the majority of people do not stand behind you then you simply
have to learn to live with it.
But the fact of the matter is that many people would rather remain complacent or spread their illness of codependency in rhetoric about Sedition and
Contrary to popular belief, the people are not powerless to their Government. The people of the United States, if they were to stop being silently
complacent, lazy, defeatist, or disempowered, or enabling the actions of TPTB, have ALL the power in our form of Government!
Each and every one of us has more power than the richest of Lobbyists.
Each and every one of us has more power than the Military Industrial Complex.
Each and every one of us has more power than the most powerful of Secret Societies.
Each and every one of us has more power than the NWO and the UN combined.
However, we do not have a voice in Government as individuals, nor do we have power through arms or violence. We have undeniable power to affect our
Government when we unite and work together, using the same system the Politicians use to entrench themselves.
You say that it has been tried, and tried, and tried...and in some ways it has. However, part of the problem is that not enough people have tried
together, or that we often forget that our form of Democratic Republic/Representative Democracy is like a pendulum and must swing to both extremes
before coming to rest in the center, and even then it isn't going to stay at rest as it is Participatorily Dynamic and will change according to the
Will of those that take Action and Participation in our form of Government. Bad changes and laws can be passed, and they also get overturned. It
happens every time that Congress is in session. Good changes and laws get passed every session, and over time they too get eroded and changed. Our
Government and our Laws are not Static for a reason. You don't have the luxury of sitting idly by and letting things happen contrary to the Will of
the People. For the Will of the People to be done, it takes constant Due Diligence and constant Participation.
The only reason why things have gotten as bad as they are is because the Masses have sat idly by and only participate in Government by voting every
2-4 years instead of getting involved in the System and using it. The only reason why the Corrupt, the Rich, the Powerful, the Corporations, the
Lobbyists, the Lawyers and the Politicans have gained the power that they have is because they've utilized the System while the Masses have sat idly
I totally agree that there are major problems within our government and corruption prevails within almost every sector of our government save perhaps
the Supreme Court and the G.A.O. which were intentionally designed to be resilient watch-dogs against political corruption. Our political system does
have some inherent flaws, but they are not the kinds of things that can't be easily remedied if it is the Will of the People. With careful and
planned political precision the corrupted officials in Washington can be made jobless, and positive change can be brought about. But such change
isn't going to happen from a Violent Revolution. All that will accomplish is either further entrenching TPTB and further loss of Liberty by the
People, or a lot of bloodshed, loss, financial poverty, famine, disease and our country becoming a Third-World Nation.
Of course, all of this is casting pearls before swine no doubt. You'll probably say again...
Originally posted by endisnighe
"off topic ramble by someone that must enjoy hearing themselves speak...a blah blah blah"
However, those that fail to offer a specific plan, with specific provisions, and specific changes they wish to enact, no matter by what means they may
choose to accomplish those are only setting themselves up for failure.
And that is precisely the reason why some people will continue to feel like they have no power and remain either codependent or disenfranchised!
[edit on 14-9-2009 by fraterormus]