What do I know about Europe? I was raised there, my roots are European and I went to school in Europe up to what in the United States is called high
As for the U.S making deals in the past that have bitten us in the butt, yes it has happened. But I have shown, and other members, that the U.S is
not alone in this, yet most Europeans bash and blame the U.S for everything and forget the hand their own governments have played in the current
affairs of the world.
About a useless war and there not being any reason for going to Iraq....well, it also shows a Russian link with Saddam and terrorism.
"Frontpage Magazine: Welcome to Frontpage Interview, Mr. Pacepa. Let’s begin. As a former Romanian spy chief who used to take direct orders from the
Soviet KGB, you are obviously armed with a wealth of information. You have written about how the Soviets armed Hussein with WMDs, and also taught him
how to eliminate any trace of them. Can you talk a bit about this and tell us its connection to the “missing WMDs” in Iraq today?
Pacepa: Contemporary political memory seems to be conveniently afflicted with some kind of Alzheimer's disease. Not long ago, every Western leader,
starting with President Clinton, fumed against Saddam’s WMD. Now almost no one remembers that after General Hussein Kamel, Saddam’s son-in-law,
defected to Jordan in 1995, he helped us find “more than one hundred metal trunks and boxes” containing documentation “dealing with all categories of
weapons, including nuclear.” He also aided UNSCOM to fish out of the Tigris River high-grade missile components prohibited to Iraq. That was exactly
what my old Soviet-made “Sărindar” plan stated he should do in case of emergency: destroy the weapons, hide the equipment, and preserve the
documentation. No wonder Saddam hastened to lure Kamel back to Iraq, where three days later he was killed together with over 40 of his relatives in
what the Baghdad official press described as a “spontaneous administration of tribal justice.” Once that was done, Saddam slammed the door shut to any
FP: So was any Sărindar plan activated?
Pacepa: Certainly. The minimal version of the Sărindar plan I made for Libya’s Gaddafi. Soon after I was granted political asylum in the US, Gaddafi
staged a fire at the secret chemical weapons facility I knew about (the cellar underneath the Rabta chemical complex). To be sure the CIA satellites
would notice that fire and cross that target off its list, he created a huge cloud of black smoke by burning truckloads of tires and painting scorch
marks on the facility. That was written in the Sărindar plan. To be on the safe side, Gaddafi also built a second production facility, this time
placed some 100 feet underground in the hollowed-out Tarhunah Mountain, south of Tripoli. That was not in the Sărindar plan.
FP: It is undeniable, therefore, that Saddam had WMDs, right?
Pacepa: In the early 1970s, the Kremlin established a “socialist division of labor” for persuading the governments of Iraq and Libya to join the
terrorist war against the US. KGB chairman Yury Andropov (who would later become the leader of the Soviet Union), told me that either of those two
countries could inflict more damage on the Americans than could the Red Brigades, the Baader-Meinhof group and all other terrorist organizations taken
together. The governments of those Arab countries, Andropov explained, not only had inexhaustible financial resources (read: oil), but they also had
huge intelligence services that were being run by “our razvedka advisers” and could extend their tentacles to every corner of the earth. There was one
major danger, though: by raising terrorism to the state level we risked American reprisal. Washington would never dispatch its airplanes and rockets
to exterminate the Baader-Meinhof, but it might well deploy them to destroy a terrorist state. We therefore were also tasked to provide those
countries secretly with weapons of mass destruction, because Andropov concluded that the Yankees would never attack a country that could retaliate
with such deadly weapons.
Libya was Romania’s main client in that socialist division of labor, because of Ceausescu’s close association with Colonel Muammar Gaddafi. Moscow
kept Iraq. Andropov told me that, if our Iraq and Libyan experiment proved successful, the same strategy would be extended to Syria. Recently, Libya’s
Gaddafi admitted to having WMD, and the CIA inspectors found them. Why should we believe that the almighty Soviet Union, which had proliferated WMD
all over the world, was not able to do the same thing in Iraq? Every piece of armament Iraq had came from the former Soviet Union—from the Katyusha
launchers to the T72 tanks, BMP-1 fighting vehicles and MiG fighter planes. In the spring of 2002, just a couple of weeks after Russia took its place
at the NATO table, President Putin and his ex-KGB officers who are now running Russia concluded another $40 billion trade deal with Saddam Hussein’s
tyrannical regime in Iraq. That was not for grain or beans—Russia has to import them from elsewhere.
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The French and German government helped radical islamists against the non-mulim blacks.
"France and Germany Abet Genocide
By John Eibner and Charles Jacobs
Boston Globe | March 18, 2003
THE LANGUAGE of human rights flows smoothly from the lips of the leaders of France and Germany. But continuing Franco-German hegemony in Europe is
bad news for human rights, especially for victims whose oppressors are European Union partners.
Take, for example, the victims of the Sudanese
government's genocidal jihad. In the words of U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell, there is ''no greater tragedy on the face of the earth than the
tragedy that is unfolding in the Sudan.''
For the past 20 years, the regime in Khartoum has bombed, starved, and enslaved black Southern Sudanese with impunity in an effort to subject them
to Islamic rule. As a result, over two million black non-Muslims have perished. A further five million have been driven off their land.
Sudanese slaves -- mainly women and children -- are routinely beaten, raped, genitally mutilated, forced to convert to Islam and racially abused. The
scale of this ''crime against humanity'' -- as slavery is identified in international law -- is enormous. Credible estimates of the number of
Sudan's slaves range from tens of thousands to over 200,000. "
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Perhaps you would like to hear it from a French what is happening in France...
"France is Not a Western Country Anymore
By Guy Milliere
FrontPageMagazine.com | March 31, 2003
French-bashing is everywhere in the American media. I am French, and I must say if Americans knew completely what's happening in France, the
French-bashing would be far harsher.
Jacques Chirac has been a friend of Saddam Hussein for more than thirty years. He allowed the sale of nuclear facilities to Iraq that were
destroyed just in time by Israël. He sold Iraq the planes that were been used to gas thousands of Kurds. And Saddam is not the only friend Chirac has.
Chirac has never met a ruthless dictator he did not like. Worse, Chirac is unprincipled and greedy. It is common knowledge in France that he stole a
lot of money when he was the mayor of Paris, and everyone knows that if he had not been re-elected in May 2002, he would be in jail now. To hear him
speaking about morality or international law nauseates every decent Frenchman.
And Chirac is not the only politician of this stripe in France. These days, it is becoming hard to find a French politician ready to speak about human
rights, freedom or democracy. All of them seem to have the same speechwriter or to belong to the same totalitarian political party; all of them are
anti-American, anti-Israeli and "pacifists." They regard Western civilization as something filthy and abhorrent.
If you read the newspapers, it's the same. At times it seems the only difference between the Soviet Union twenty years ago and France today is that
in Soviet Union you had only one Pravda, and in France you now have at least ten such propaganda outlets: Different titles, same content. Their party
line is clear in reporting on the personalities found in the present Middle Eastern crisis. Saddam Hussein, the "President of Iraq"? Well, maybe he
has been brutal, but you know, in "those" countries... George W. Bush? He’s a "moron" - a former alcoholic, who has become a crazy fanatic, in
fact the most dangerous man on the face of earth. Ariel Sharon? A fascist who loves to kill Arabs. Arafat? A great freedom fighter. When an American
general speaks, it is merely propaganda, but when Tariq Aziz pontificates, it is pure truth. Almost everyday you hear anti-Semitic remarks, to boot.
The anti-Semitism has created a threat to the physical safety for French Jews. Almost every week, some Jews get mugged, simply for being Jews. Almost
nobody pays attention to it. When an anti-Semitic act is so disgusting it is impossible to hide it, journalists will speak of "confrontation between
communities." When confronted with the reality that these "confrontations" are always Muslims attacking Jews, the editorial response: "Just
because there has yet to be a single documented case of a Jew attacking a Muslim yet doesn't mean it will never happen. . . ."
And Jews are not the only victims of France's new identification with radical Islam. In many French cities with a growing radical Islamist
population, no teenage girl can go out in the evening, at least not without a full burqa. If she does, it will mean that "she is for everybody": in
short, a whore. In the same cities, every teenage girl - regardless of religion - has to wear the Muslim veil if she does not want to be harassed or
Almost every month, a young woman is mugged and raped in a suburb of a big city. Gang rape has become so frequent that a new word, used by
the rapists themselves to define their hideous actions, is used by everybody: tournantes (revolving). To the rapists, the woman is nothing, a mere
object to be thrown away after use. The people who speak about "revolving" seem to forget a human being is involved as the victim. Policemen do
nothing. Every decent person knows the problem is Islam, but no one dares to say it. It could be dangerous. The streets are not safe."
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As for the French helping show some muscle with the Chinese in view of the Taiwanese elections, the French "were jointly exercising with the Chinese,
not with the taiwanese government." The Chinese were trying to bring some fear into the Taiwanese, like they have done in the past, and the French
went happily along..
Now is time for you to show that "Those exercises built on a fostering of contacts with other nations, including the United States" as you
mentioned. I wan't to see the involvement of the U.S with France and the Chinese show of arms against the Taiwanese..... reliable links please...
I don't even think you know that Taiwan is an ally of the U.S....