A million march to US Capitol to protest against 'Obama the socialist'

reply to post by symmetricAvenger


Exactly, the health care issue is just one a symptom of the disease we face.

reply to post by tac109


Truth is most of them are.. and have a very low IQ :/

same idiots who voted for bush twice and shocked the world "even tho it was rigged" still shocking

you have a POTUS who can atleast string a stentance without #ing up and here you are bashing the # out of him because he wants universal heath care?

good lord .. next thing you know they will impeach him for lying about going to #ing war

god save us all...

reply to post by VAPatriot


its not so much about the USA tho friend its about PEOPLE as i show in my link..

We as A people all over the world are being -#ED in the ass by our governments

ALL OF US ... and we sit back and let them..

we are indeed PATHETIC as a race

So let's see.
It seems just as many people turned out to protest Obama's healthcare plan than did Obama's inauguration.
Of course I am referring to the first inauguration, remember that?
That's the one that didn't count since it required a do over.

reply to post by Alxandro

That's the one that didn't count since it required a do over.

Incorrect.

Seems you're referring to the botched Oath of Office given by the very right-of-center Chief Justice of the Supreme Court because he felt he could do it from memory???

The 'Oath' is a formality, and the exact wording isn't important, nor does the flubbing of the words invalidate the intent.

The 'do-over' was performed merely to quell the voices over on the right-wing saber rattling side....and we see how well THAT worked out....

watched Tv off and on all weekend ( opening weekend NFL ) and the news this morning. Saw nothing on this protest. Weird.


PG

Why are the right-wingers bitching and moaning about government debt just now when Cheney said years ago that debt doesn't matter and the national deficit was doubled by 2006?

Why didn't the right-wing address the crashing health care system when they controlled government, other than provide $800 billion in welfare to the pharmaceutical industry for Medicare Part D (as in duh!)?

Why are the right-wingers complaining about big, out of control government when Bush/Cheney TRIPLED the size of federal government?

Why are the right-wingers upset about the increased powers of government and destruction of the Constitution when their party created and passed the (UN)Patriot act (which may ironically be used against them if their violent rhetoric and threats progress) which is designed to undermine the Constitution entirely?

Also, i've noticed that the majority of the protesters are white, middle-aged, and religious Christian - many of which put out tremendous effort to try to get their religious agenda mandated at the federal level and forced on the people. These types NEVER speak out about JOBS, EDUCATION, HEALTHCARE, or ENVIRONMENTAL issues, despise social welfare but are consistently silent on corporate welfare which dwarfs social welfare.

Forrest Gump was right on the mark, stupid is as stupid does!

reply to post by TypeSH2001

Why are the right-wingers bitching and moaning about government debt just now when Cheney said years ago that debt doesn't matter and the national deficit was doubled by 2006?

The tea party movement started in 2007 under Bush. We did 'bitch.' Along with the left wing. There were many right wingers calling out the government for spending right along with the left.

Why are the right-wingers complaining about big, out of control government when Bush/Cheney TRIPLED the size of federal government?

We did! Look at all the petitions to repeal the PATRIOT Act. Look at the outrage over the warrentless wiretapping of citizens. The people, even the right wing, were pissed. There is a reason why Bush's approval rating TANKED. Even the right wingers opened their eyes and bailed on him.

Why are the right-wingers upset about the increased powers of government and destruction of the Constitution when their party created and passed the (UN)Patriot act (which may ironically be used against them if their violent rhetoric and threats progress) which is designed to undermine the Constitution entirely?

You really need to do some research. There were movements everywhere. I'm working on a research thread now to explain how none of this is new.

...and religious Christian - many of which put out tremendous effort to try to get their religious agenda mandated at the federal level and forced on the people.

Can you please provide some evidence of their religious beliefs? I've been looking at photos from the protest for the last few days and they are politically-oriented. Not religious. Did you take a poll of the protesters for their beliefs? Do you really believe the protest yesterday was more religiously motivated than politically motivated?

My question is, where are all of YOU? The left wing sure could protest loudly 9 months ago. Now? Nary a peep when NOTHING IS CHANGING IN THE WHITE HOUSE.

This partisan stuff is so old.

reply to post by AshleyD

The tea party movement started in 2007 under Bush.

the tea party movement started due to Ron Paul and his real values...with real concerns...

the tea party movement today is a left/ right facade agenda being pushed by Fox News.

hardly authentic and hardly genuine...just another way to divide...

with the ron paul tea parties it was both dems and republicans..now its all right wing **ahem** conservatives **ahem**

Originally posted by weedwhacker

 

The 'Oath' is a formality, and the exact wording isn't important, nor does the flubbing of the words invalidate the intent.

The 'do-over' was performed merely to quell the voices over on the right-wing saber rattling side....and we see how well THAT worked out....

Then why weren't people invited to the second inauguration?
Seems all the work and effort put into the hoopla the day before was done in vain.

reply to post by symmetricAvenger


I agreed completely. It is much more then just the US government. Being a US citizen, I choose to not sit back apathetically and moan, Woe is me. I choose to do what I can. If we as people don't wake the @#%& UP and do what ever you can. We are doomed. I for one won't go down quietly. We are sitting on a powder keg right now. Any spark and things are going to get real ugly. IMHO

Man, that is a lot of people to be knocking on your door. So what does the Government and media do? They pretend they are not home, go into hiding and fail to answer the door. If that doesn't tell you something about those sorry excuse of human beings, nothing will. Yes, they're leading you alright - right off a cliff.

reply to post by open_eyeballs


I'm aware of that but that is also a point I am trying to make.

Both democrats and republicans participated in the protests together under Bush. But now? It seems only the right wingers are left protesting. Where did the left wing go?

As other posters have said, the left was right beside the right fighting against injustice and big government. But now that 'their guy' is in office, they're falling silent and letting it be a right wing issue when it should not be.

Also, I'm under the impression that the first protest in 2009 (April 15th) had both liberals/conservatives and republicans/democrats in the groups. Not sure what the July 4th protest was like. So don't fall into the facade that it is just a left wing or right wing issue.

I really hate partisan crap but I have to admit the left is looking like some major hypocrites right now. They protested across the nation under Bush for 8 years. The second one of their own gets into office, they fall silent and turn a blind eye to what Obama is doing when it is so similar to Bush.

Where did the left wing go when they loudly protested Bush's bailout but not Obama's stimulus? The left was there beside us trying to repeal the PATRIOT Act under Bush but not Obama's continuation of it. The left screamed right along with us due to the warrentless wire tapping of civilians under Bush but where are they now that Obama has protected Bush's actions? The antiwar movement was huge but where is the outrage now when Obama has not brought the troops home from Iraq and sent more to Afghanistan.

So while they ask us 'where were we' when we were right there, I feel compelled to ask, 'where are you now when you were right here 9 months ago?'

reply to post by AshleyD



I look foward to that thread. I yelled just as loudly at my television at Bush as I do Obama.

All I keep hearing is about how people who do not like the current POTUS are racist, religious, KKK card carrying, nut jobs. I'm not racist (I believe everyone has the potential for extreme stupidity), a spiritualist, not in the KKK, or crazy (just don't ask my husband if I am, he'll give you a different answer). The ONLY people I ever hear talking about race are the people on the left. For cripes sake be proud that Americans got out there and actually did SOMETHING!

I'm neither left nor right. If I could have been at the demonstration I would have been. I do believe we need some type of health reform but I don't want to pay for Mr. Unemployed because he refuses to get a job. You can find a job in this country. You have to dig and be willing to jobs others may not want to do. The McDonalds in the town where I live always seems to have a "Now Hiring" sign in their window. The local hospital is ALWAYS looking for "sanitation specialists." It's hard but not impossible.

PS. I'm probably going to get reemed for stating I go to McD's all the time so I'll go ahead and head those people off. I am not willing to pay half my paycheck for a coffee at Starbucks >_

reply to post by AshleyD


The left are major hypocrites, but where was Fox news when Ron Pauls tea parties were happening everywhere?

Maybe a 30 second mention with a pic or two?

In other words, now that the right has a bad guy (Obama) Fox news and their pundits push it like its the next man on the moon or something. And now that "Obama" is in office the economy and subsequently the budget all of a sudden are flopping around like fish out of water...when in reality it was Fox news who pushed the bailouts on the American people...conservatives? aahhhh...hardly...neo cons with partisan agendas? oh ya... republicans....not even close to republican ethics and morals...fox is the biggets hypocries out of them all...

dont worry though, cant stand msnbc more...used to love olberman before he got into politics..espn anyone?

And Im not saying the tea parties shouldn't take place, but there was so much coming from the neo con camp (fox) during the elections with no real coverage of the tea parties that were spurred by real concern...but now all of a sudden fox has a roaming motorhome or tour bus planning each event!

hypocracy at its finest...

reply to post by symmetricAvenger


I put the british blood in their to counter the typical english have bad teeth response

Im english and live here mate,and also my dentist isnt free!

Originally posted by AshleyD
reply to post by TypeSH2001

 

...and religious Christian - many of which put out tremendous effort to try to get their religious agenda mandated at the federal level and forced on the people.

Can you please provide some evidence of their religious beliefs? I've been looking at photos from the protest for the last few days and they are politically-oriented. Not religious. Did you take a poll of the protesters for their beliefs? Do you really believe the protest yesterday was more religiously motivated than politically motivated?

My question is, where are all of YOU? The left wing sure could protest loudly 9 months ago. Now? Nary a peep when NOTHING IS CHANGING IN THE WHITE HOUSE.

This partisan stuff is so old.

Maybe you should have tuned in for a brief moment.

I rarely watch mainstream media anymore (Lou Dobbs' show was the last rung for me and he sold out completely so he's out now) but when I skipped through a few 'news' tv channels this weekend between innings and halftimes, I saw slews of signs at the event regarding the old right wing religious mantra of anti-gay marriage, anti-abortion, pro school prayer, etc. Topics that 1) should be relegated to the States (Republicans should know that REALLY well 2) have NOTHING to do with the health care crisis 3) prove how radical religionists still maintain a stranglehold over the GOP.

You are right that some right-wingers are staunchly against the (Un)Patriot Act and I know some personally. I really thought that there would have been a massive protest atleast as large as this current protest back when the Act was passed, though, because Republicans in general seem to pride themselves in a strong belief in Freedom. Have to admit the media isn't to blame for that not happening.

That does not even look like a hundred thousand people to me. See I live in Tampa , Fl and we regularly have events in this town during the year that can easily surpass 100,000 ppatrons, including the Airfest and Guavaween.

Not to mention the football games that pack at least 60,000 into our stadium with thousands more tailgating in the adjacent park and training grounds parking area.

Its barely navigable when the games are over and evveryone pours out into the surrounding areas, with about up to 80,000 people or so.

Either way this is less than half a million at best estimates. I dont want a fraction of one percent of the population to kill my and millions of others of Americans rights to Universal Health care.

Hopefully one day when there is a fire in your homes, you can see a bunch of guys in suits not letting the firemen get into your property because they have to discuss the probability of profit of saving your property as well as the deductible youll have to pay for the claim to recieve your coverage. If you dont want socialism, then dont EVER call the fire department or police when you need help please.

Most of us enjoy our social programs, and we would appreciate if helath care actuallly became one of them.

The truth will come out about this day, it will take a little more time that if the MSM were honest and reported the real numbers.

Time will tell!

Meanwhile, we can absorb the juicy tidbits...

I find this particulary telling...A photgraphic essay entitled
CLEAN Conservatives vs FILTHY Liberals-- A Photographic Essay

gatewaypundit.blogspot.com...

Where was this self righteousness when bush doubled our national debt (from 5 trillion to 10 trillion) and got us into an unnecessary 3 trillion dollar war? (this comment is about spending)

Anyone protesting the health care plan isn't very bright. The status quo is going to run out in 8 years so the people on Medicare will lose their benefits since the program will have no money left. The 65 and over crowd is among the majority of those who care the most about this issue.

All he is doing is giving us the same public option where Americans can get the type of health care that they need for a lower cost. The initial costs of the health care system may very well be exorbitant but is it worth the lives of 18,000 americans who die every years because they dont have health care? I think so. In my opinion health care is a right and not a privilege and that death toll I mentioned earlier is a Moral Wrong on behalf of our government. We are the only Industrialized first world nation without universal health care and it's time we got on board.

www.whitehouse.gov...

You can call me out on the rhetoric all you like but facts are facts.

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