Cop killer severly beaten by police.

reply to post by hikix


Yeah, you basically just reposted what i said.

reply to post by LeTan


yeah pretty much

Originally posted by EyesWideShut
reply to post by EnlightenUp

 

This wasn't a COP thing , this was a HUMAN thing. I PROMISE you If you shot one of my friends in the face you would not make it to see tomorrow! I don't know what is so hard to understand about that , If a guy is brazen enough to attempt to murder a cop IN COURT , He'd off you , your wife , and your kids without so much as a thought.

I have no problem with self-defense or defense of another and the use of firearms or other means to accomplish that. However, I really don't relish the day of having to prove my worth and skill at killing. I'd rather never have to do so for any reason.

Yes, that's brazen. He sure can't use the "but I'm just a misunderstood nice guy" defense.

Originally posted by LeTan
reply to post by hikix

 

Yeah, you basically just reposted what i said.

Easy there gunpowder.... the longer you're here, the more you'll come to notice that that happens a lot.... If you would like I'll star your post so you get recognition

I don't understand how someone could stick up for this guy. Maybe his family, cause they gotta love him, but surely even they can see this is the VERY VERY least that he deserves. His wounds will be healed in a month or two and will have an easy life compared to the family he has torn apart.

reply to post by EyesWideShut


Wasn't my intention to get stars, he replied and quoted me so i figured he must have miss read my statement.

Originally posted by EnlightenUp

Originally posted by EyesWideShut
reply to post by EnlightenUp

 

This wasn't a COP thing , this was a HUMAN thing. I PROMISE you If you shot one of my friends in the face you would not make it to see tomorrow! I don't know what is so hard to understand about that , If a guy is brazen enough to attempt to murder a cop IN COURT , He'd off you , your wife , and your kids without so much as a thought.

I have no problem with self-defense or defense of another and the use of firearms or other means to accomplish that. However, I really don't relish the day of having to prove my worth and skill at killing. I'd rather never have to do so for any reason.

Yes, that's brazen. He sure can't use the "but I'm just a misunderstood nice guy" defense.

It's ok , some of us do that so that you can have the luxury of not having to , killing and violence in society is a reality of life. No one other than psychotics "Relishes" killing. Some people just have an aptitude for it than others through conditioning. Being able to kill doesn't prove your worth , but not being able to do so when you need to can prove you worthless.

reply to post by hikix


Do I think he deserved it? Yeah. Do I think the cops should be simply cleared? That all depends. We don't know the details of his arrest, the video didn't say. If he was heavily resisting, then I could see how the injuries could be inflicted like that.

But if the cops decided to beat him after he was in cuffs? Then there should of be recourse. It's too dangerous to let the law simply take things into their own hands. But then again, I can't blame the officers. I could see how something like this might be uncontrollable.

However I imagine that he was very resistant to arrest. Afterall, he shot an officer in the middle of a precinct (think that's the word.)

Also, could the injuries have been related to jumping out of a 3rd story window? If he landed on his face, that's quite an impact.

What yanks my chain is that this murdering SOB will be a hero in Jail and will suffer no ill treatment at the hands of his fellow inmates because of it. He will have a cushy life behind bars now. The old saying' He needed killin'! comes to mind!
Zindo

Thought I might add, with a jump from the third floor he might have misjudged and face planted himself into the pavement and had much of the result you see!
I'm sure the police had a hand in his face lift but he could have done some of that by his own stupidity and blamed the cops for it all!
Zindo

Originally posted by dooper
reply to post by EnlightenUp

 

I don't like perpetuating the violence either, so kill the SOB and it stops.

But, it really doesn't. It just supports the cause to perpetuate it. It gives something to point at and say, "see, look at what they did" whether or not the dirtbag is snuffed out. It lives and breeds from the grave.

The rule of law is a good thing, overall. But the rule of law is frequently circumvented, twisted, sidestepped, and ignored by those who would desire to escape punishment.

That includes all walks of life and professions. However, agents of the state can more easily use their authority as a buffer. It also extends to corporate personhood where the legal person is responsible and not the human beings.

We had a deal in Vietnam called the Chu Hoi program, and I'm not sure of the spelling.

I also know someone who had to shoot any kids walking the way of him and his men because they might be strapped with explosives claiming to be hungry and asking for handouts. One time he had to take one down and apparently the kid actually was loaded up. Others had to take out kids that seem actually to be just looking for some help and were not loaded up. Perhaps it was a setup to create a mandate of "shoot" to make Americans look as barbaric as possible.

It was very practical. It was war. They have to live with those awful memories.

I can't say that I blame the guy. Cops have been on a downward spiral for a long time now and they just don't seem to bottom out. Not only with their trigger happy tazer fingers but now they get sonic weapons also. You can't bully people and think that noone will ever hit back.

Originally posted by ZindoDoone
Thought I might add, with a jump from the third floor he might have misjudged and face planted himself into the pavement and had much of the result you see!
I'm sure the police had a hand in his face lift but he could have done some of that by his own stupidity and blamed the cops for it all!
Zindo

Thanks zindo you beat me to the punch, he jumps through a glass
window and lands 3 stories down. There's no guarantee that the police
did anything other than arrest him.

I feel sorrow for all involved, even the defendant. His life must have
been an absolute hell to have committed 2 murders . I abhor welfare
but I think that there's much we can do in terms of improving the
quality of life for all people in addition to finding ways to give them a
sense of purpose, community and well-being.

Cheering for either side in this is an admission of your own sickness.
Is this what television has done for you?

Most videos you see the people get atleast three warnings and then they act surprised when they get tasered. I'm in support of the cops, there normal people who have to put up with morons everyday in their working life's so obviously they won't take much crap from people.

The majority of the posters make me laugh... They talk about how this cop killer is such a bad person for killing another human being that he should be killed for this or should have been tortured. Hmmm tell me if I am wrong..does not asking for his death or asking for torture not make you just as bad as this person? SO it is ok for cops to take matters into thier own hands whenever they choose and you have no problem with this? I have seen many threads against governments or its police/military doing this just that. Hmmm this place really needs to decide on what it wants.

Although this is an old video, I just really have to point something out.
All you badge kissers who are raving that "he got what he deserved" is exactly what is turning western countries to fascist states.

At no time are the police justified in exacting revenge for a crime. Just the very nature of the policemans job is to stop people from doing this kind of thing. They take the risks that come with the job. Don't want the risks, don't take the job.

Sure, this guy deserves what the COURTS do to him. And it doesn't matter what evidence there is of the crime, it is only after his CONVICTION that the COURTS decide what should be done.

Would I think differently if it were my kid?..on trial or who was shot? Sure, but I am not a policeman. In any case, the society WE all live in only works when those with the authority follow the rules that were put in place to STOP exactly this kind of personal revenge.

The hypocrisy that is prevalent here is astounding. Maybe we should all turn a blind eye when the policeman is involved in the childporn ring, or when he takes that extra 10k from the dealer as "punishment" for the dealers crimes.

The people who beat this guy are as bad as the guy himself. The turn their back on their oath and take the matter into their hands. This guy at least didn't swear an oath to UPHOLD the law, regardless of his personal feelings.

Flame away, but this is exactly the the reason that so many of us are fed up with the cops abusing their authority; and you guys are cheering them on because you feel the reason is "Justified".

I cannot wait, until its your house, your grandparent your spouse who is "Justifiably "punished by the police. Sure this guy is a dirtbag, and when your accused..you will be as well.

..Ex

ps. I am aware of the details of the case, and of this guys actions at his first trial as well as the next trial. It is not without knowing what he did that I say these things, it's to point out that; when we allow this action by authority for any reason we irrevocably change the world we live in. If you can't understand this concept, there is no need to respond.
..ex

reply to post by hikix


Good.

I wish they'd finished the job.

Filth.

excessive quotes removed

[edit on 13-9-2009 by stevegmu]

Originally posted by muggl3z
Don't you people have any respect for the rule of law? Innocent until proven guilty?

I guess not, you just want to shoot his penis off. Sick, absolutely sick.

Maybe you should be his room mate? Then you can get all kissy smoochie with him. As for me, he is trash that needs to be taken out and made an example of. That is the problem with America today. People just do not have the stomach any more to do what it takes to triumph over the gangsters in our society. Idiots make heroes out of gangsters and sing songs about killing cops and beating down hoes. It is refreshing to see somebody get what they have coming for a change.

He killed an old lady

He shot a cop in the face in front of a room full of people and dove out of a window.

I'd have made sure he couldn't walk again for the rest of his pathetic life.