now they killed F136 -a new problem with the P&W F135, page 1
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Topic started on 13-9-2009 @ 03:58 PM by Harlequin
www.flightglobal.com...

Pratt & Whitney is investigating how a "handful" of fan blade tips damaged an F135 engine during a ground test simulating the Lockheed Martin F-35's engine performance at supersonic speeds.

The programme's latest technical issue comes amidst a heated debate between the White House and Congress about continuing to fund the F135's rival engine - the General Electric/Rolls-Royce F136.



i honestly think there are binning the wrong engine here - the F135 should be killed off as its showing more and more fan blade failues from 1 reason or another

i dread the day 1 prototype bloes up because of engines failure.


reply posted on 14-9-2009 @ 08:25 AM by Harlequin
this fan was built to replace the first generation fan (which cracked and failed)

AWST

also whilst on the stand - and grounded the flight programme for a year


coupled with `stack ups` of fan bladesnot meeting specification


www.flightglobal.com...



as for the F136;

www.dodbuzz.com...

is that what you meant? a faulty bearing and sucking test equipment not bolted down properly into the engine?


reply posted on 19-9-2009 @ 01:03 AM by C0bzz
Pratt: F135 Fan Fix Simple, Cheap.

Pratt & Whitney says it's standard industry practice - clip the tip of a blade to remove the piece that's susceptible to damage. And that's what the manufacturer plans to do with the fan blades on its F135 engine for the F-35, after a piece of the tip of a first-stage fan blade broke off during durability testing.

Pratt says the "minor modification" to be made immediately to all ISR engines will be to clip the corner off the tip of the fan blade at its trailing edge, removing the piece that broke off and "alleviating the potential" for it to fail. This will not degrade the engine's performance, the company stresses.

Engines for flight-test F135s are not affected, although the bushings are the same, because they have a "first-generation" fan that has already passed the required durability testing. The ISR engine has a "second generation" fan with lighter integrally bladed rotors. The bushings will be inspected periodically for wear until a new design is developed under the F135 component improvement program.

That's not as bad as it might sound, because the blade damage occurred 2,455 cycles into a 2,600-cycle durability test of the initial service release (ISR) engine for production F-35As. That's the equivalent of eight years of in-service operation, Pratt says. When the tip broke off, the engine was 5 hours into a supersonic high-cycle fatigue test designed to deliberately excite blade vibration.

Graham Warwick


You probably want to read the comments on the page too. PW says it will not impact performance, but the comments on that page seem to indicate otherwise.

[edit on 19/9/2009 by C0bzz]
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