TUC warns of four million jobless

TUC warns of four million jobless

news.bbc.co.uk

Public spending cuts would create a "double-quick, double-dip" recession and push unemployment over four million, the TUC's leader has warned.

Brendan Barber called it "astonishing" that demands for reducing the budget deficit were being seen as a priority, rather than funding economic revival.

Speaking ahead of the TUC Congress in Liverpool, Mr Barber said the outlook was "very precarious".

But Gordon Brown says the economy is "on the road to recovery".

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On the road to recovery?

Almost everyone I know is worried about their job or is looking for beter employment. Just this evening I was in my local store and one of the people working there asked me if my place had any job vacancies.

At my work, we are selling bankrupt stock..really cheap. So cheap that a kitchen that would have cost 10k will now only cost you 1500.

And we are finding it hard to get customers.

I find this report interesting as it states some of the things that Mr Brown will be saying. Why go to a conference if we already know what you are going to say, Mr. Brown?

The government says it wants to halve its budget deficit - expected to reach £175bn this year - within four years.

Unions are alarmed at suggestions that this could mean slashing some areas of spending, possibly resulting in large-scale redundancies.

Mr Barber, TUC general secretary since 2003, said: "Cut the stimulus off and the economy would go into decline again. Public spending cuts will provoke a double-quick, double-dip recession.

"Unemployment could well exceed four million and it would take many years before there was any chance of returning to anything like full employment. That would scar for life a whole generation of young people."

It wont be just the young it will scar.. it will create new scars on top of old for those old enough to remember the 1970's/80's

Mr Brown would spend his visit trying to "smooth things over" with his party's biggest political backers, he added.

Don't you mean those who pay you the most?

Mr Barber said deficits were an "inevitable symptom" of a recession, adding: "When the economy shrinks, governments need to spend more on benefits but get less tax income, and there has been a spectacular collapse in tax income in this recession."

And where has most of the tax gone recently?
Bailing out the banks who got us into this mess, that's where our tax money has gone.. that's why we face 4 million unemployed..

My manager at work has just come back from a holiday in the USA.. He had an odd question that he is struggling to answer (he is not the type to 'follow' conspiracy stories so he is having a hard time understadning my answer to his question).

His mentioned that wherever he went, he could not find any middle class sections of society.. He mentioned that all he could see was either very 'well off' people or very 'under-funded'.. He asked "Where have the middle classes gone"?.

The Tories say the government is gathering too much debt, but Labour says the Conservatives would reduce funding for projects vital to restoring the economy's fortunes.

And here we are, playing war games between parties and all they are concerned about is who will win the next election and stabbing at each other and screaming why the oposition will not be the best next choice of government..

Tell you what... why don't you all go take a run and jump..the banks and bankers too.. let us, the public, run the country instead.. we get along fine without you.. we don't need you.. you have made far too much of a mess to ever be trusted ever again.
You are redundant.
We are firing you.
We have had enough..

Four million possibly unemployed is too much..

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TUC are old fashion socialists, who still believe you can infinitely spend money and the State can generate wealth greater than the markets.

Scare tactics.

Originally posted by Extralien


On the road to recovery?

Almost everyone I know is worried about their job or is looking for beter employment. Just this evening I was in my local store and one of the people working there asked me if my place had any job vacancies.

At my work, we are selling bankrupt stock..really cheap. So cheap that a kitchen that would have cost 10k will now only cost you 1500.

And we are finding it hard to get customers.

I find this report interesting as it states some of the things that Mr Brown will be saying. Why go to a conference if we already know what you are going to say, Mr. Brown?

The government says it wants to halve its budget deficit - expected to reach £175bn this year - within four years.

Unions are alarmed at suggestions that this could mean slashing some areas of spending, possibly resulting in large-scale redundancies.

Mr Barber, TUC general secretary since 2003, said: "Cut the stimulus off and the economy would go into decline again. Public spending cuts will provoke a double-quick, double-dip recession.

"Unemployment could well exceed four million and it would take many years before there was any chance of returning to anything like full employment. That would scar for life a whole generation of young people."

It wont be just the young it will scar.. it will create new scars on top of old for those old enough to remember the 1970's/80's

Mr Brown would spend his visit trying to "smooth things over" with his party's biggest political backers, he added.

Don't you mean those who pay you the most?

Mr Barber said deficits were an "inevitable symptom" of a recession, adding: "When the economy shrinks, governments need to spend more on benefits but get less tax income, and there has been a spectacular collapse in tax income in this recession."

And where has most of the tax gone recently?
Bailing out the banks who got us into this mess, that's where our tax money has gone.. that's why we face 4 million unemployed..

My manager at work has just come back from a holiday in the USA.. He had an odd question that he is struggling to answer (he is not the type to 'follow' conspiracy stories so he is having a hard time understadning my answer to his question).

His mentioned that wherever he went, he could not find any middle class sections of society.. He mentioned that all he could see was either very 'well off' people or very 'under-funded'.. He asked "Where have the middle classes gone"?.

The Tories say the government is gathering too much debt, but Labour says the Conservatives would reduce funding for projects vital to restoring the economy's fortunes.

And here we are, playing war games between parties and all they are concerned about is who will win the next election and stabbing at each other and screaming why the oposition will not be the best next choice of government..

Tell you what... why don't you all go take a run and jump..the banks and bankers too.. let us, the public, run the country instead.. we get along fine without you.. we don't need you.. you have made far too much of a mess to ever be trusted ever again.
You are redundant.
We are firing you.
We have had enough..

Four million possibly unemployed is too much..

news.bbc.co.uk
(visit the link for the full news article)

your right 4 million is too much, every person made redundent is another person learning to live without the money and it changes peoples minds and opinions.

Goodluck taking that BROWN

reply to post by infinite


That may be so, but they do have a point in what they are saying regards this issue.

The TUC do seem to have been a thorn in the side for the government for many a year and, in a way, it's almost a good thing they are there doing what they do.

Who else has the footing to be able to speak up like they do.

The general public does not have the vocal power the TUC has.
All the public are able to do is write to their local MP.. and we know what happens there..

reply to post by Extralien


My company has openings in the UK still. What sort of job markets are being lost?

If you want, U2U me and I can get you more info.

Mike



[edit on 13-9-2009 by mikerussellus]

reply to post by mikerussellus


In the area that I am currently living, many factories have gone.
The main UK call centre for the 118 118 directory service has reduced its staff levels big time and has sent most of the calls to the Philippines now (increased their prices too)

The temporary job I now have I was very lucky to get. 62 people applied for the position I filled.

I am lucky in the sense that I am multi skilled and am able to turn my hand to almost any job, bar brain surgery..

I used to use a temping agency. They have now changed their client base. They used to cater for most of the factory sites around the area.. now they do clerical and even that is tough to get into right now.

most of the positions available require HND's or similar. Others require proven track records in sales.

Ther are large amounts of temporary positions going or part time work (mostly cleaning)
People are not taking these as it is far easier to stay unemployed and claiming benefits. the paperwork involved in a change of circumstances is horrendous so people shy away from part time work.

City centre is earily quiet.

What with the death of two major high street names, (Woolworths and MFI) I feel people have no confidence in anything right now.. nobody is really spending. .everyone is holding on.

Everyone wants to breathe a sigh of relief..but they can't.. yet