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Don't copy that floppy 2 (propaganda)

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posted on Sep, 12 2009 @ 04:45 PM
thats the stuff im talking about,and they make people like you criminals for wanting a little compensation in this cruel unfair world

posted on Sep, 12 2009 @ 04:49 PM

Originally posted by nunya13
Man..I hope SWAT doesn't break down my door because they found out about all the blank tapes I made (and still have) from when I was 10!

For the record, I agree with everything you just said.

I do not deny that I've had friends send me the odd MP3 of some band or other they thought I might like. If I didn't, no harm done, not like I'm even going to listen to it again, nor would have bought it anyway. But if I did I'd go out and buy the album it came from - sometimes a few more.

I've also had a lot of stuff stolen that was impossible to replace.

On the flip side there are certain albums I've actually bought 2 or 3 copies of.

Also, I have written to several record companies asking them to please release the videos for certain bands so that I can buy them, only to get a reply that basically says "we're not interested in doing that." So downloading those, if I can find them, is fair game in my book. Not that I've been ABLE to find them, which is why I wanted them to release the damn things

[edit on 12-9-2009 by Clickfoot]

posted on Sep, 12 2009 @ 05:00 PM
reply to post by Clickfoot

Well, that's the point. Where do you draw the line?

posted on Sep, 12 2009 @ 05:02 PM
I love the anti-pirate crap. It always bites itself in the butt. Yes, I torrent. I download constantly. I also spend a lot of money buying the stuff I've downloaded. MediaSentry actually sent my ISP a complaint on the 7th of this month. My internet was shut off until I called them. The movie they are complaining about is sitting, still wrapped, in my DVD collection. It was only recently released. I downloaded the movie 3-4 months ago. Aren't they speedy lol

Pirates don't "destroy" sales. What destroys sales is greedy record labels and Movie studios that will release crap in the hopes that someone will like it. When the investment doesn't pay off, they blame pirates.

I REALLY love reading how pirates tends to legally purchase more content than non-pirates. The anti-pirate AND the lazy pirate crowd likes to paint the scene like no one purchases anything and that the "try it before you buy it" pirate doesn't exist.

We do exist.

posted on Sep, 12 2009 @ 05:06 PM

Originally posted by nunya13
Well, that's the point. Where do you draw the line?

I think the guy who posted right after you did it pretty well. I mean technically it's still illegal, but before Napster etc. everybody turned a blind eye to this sort of thing, and didn't care that tapes etc. were basically there to facilitate this sort of thing.

But there are people who have no intention of buying anything, some of them even hoard stuff they're never going to actually use, just because it's there. I've met people who do this. Never understood that.

[edit on 12-9-2009 by Clickfoot]

posted on Sep, 12 2009 @ 05:14 PM
lol strange how can they do a complain,i always find these goody loosers on some forums that say "im going to call your isp and have you disconected"
and to that i just reply "stupid, isps in bulgaria dosnt care at all about a complaint from some foreign looser, i pay my mounthy internet and i can do whatever i want if i dont draw many attention like hosting a torrent site or something

posted on Sep, 12 2009 @ 07:09 PM
I just ignore the major label and paid stuff for the most part. All my computer software is open source. Most of my music is creative commons or similar. Most of the videos I watch are either made by 'amateurs' (Although you might not notice the difference thanks to the tech and ability to network with other people), or are put out free by major companies, but supported by adverts.

I repay those who allow me to do this by working on open source software myself, both as lead coder of my own projects, and by submitting bug reports/patches for other peoples.

It all sounds a bit commie really, but in 'The Arts', I think it works very well.

I make my money by programming for people who want my software customized in some way, or need some very specialist task done that there is not, and will never be 'off the shelf' software for.


[edit on 12/9/2009 by harpsounds]

posted on Sep, 13 2009 @ 05:01 AM
your a good man mate,but some of the goods stuff arent free,let me see the free stuff that i use that are better then the payd.
well threatfire and kmplayer,utorrent for once.
and i think corel is better then photoshop..for making wallpapers,even for painting cartoon pics

posted on Sep, 13 2009 @ 06:33 AM

Originally posted by Clickfoot
but I WANT to be able to copy it, so I can listen to it on an MP3 player. When you start protecting it so I CAN'T do that is when I suddenly don't want to pay for it anymore.

Actually, that is still an unknown area. The RIAA have made statements that it is indeed Illegal to copy songs from a legally purchased CD and copy it to a portable music device or to your PC for storage.

Case in point Link

The industry's lawyer in the case, Ira Schwartz, argues in a brief filed earlier this month that the MP3 files Howell made on his computer from legally bought CDs are "unauthorized copies" of copyrighted recordings.

"I couldn't believe it when I read that," says Ray Beckerman, a New York lawyer who represents six clients who have been sued by the RIAA. "The basic principle in the law is that you have to distribute actual physical copies to be guilty of violating copyright. But recently, the industry has been going around saying that even a personal copy on your computer is a violation."


The Howell case was not the first time the industry has argued that making a personal copy from a legally purchased CD is illegal. At the Thomas trial in Minnesota, Sony BMG's chief of litigation, Jennifer Pariser, testified that "when an individual makes a copy of a song for himself, I suppose we can say he stole a song." Copying a song you bought is "a nice way of saying 'steals just one copy,' " she said.


If you make unauthorized copies of copyrighted music recordings, you’re stealing. You’re breaking the law, and you could be held legally liable for thousands of dollars in damages.

That means you need the permission of the copyright holder before you copy and/or distribute a copyrighted music recording.

THe RIAA link seems to flip flop about it, but as court cases have ruled in favour of the RIAA and Sony in prosecuting individuals who make personal copies of their own legally purchased CD's, I wouldn't take anything for granted.

posted on Sep, 13 2009 @ 06:47 AM
reply to post by Ha`la`tha

I posted in a earlier post that they are above the law. Obviously corporations with lots of money can use lobbyists, lawyers and bribes to get whatever they want. Its part of what is wrong with the system today.

If you have followed the Pirate Bay story, you know to what lengths they go. Bribes, biased judges etc.

[edit on 13-9-2009 by Copernicus]

posted on Sep, 13 2009 @ 08:16 AM
thats just laughable,what am i supposed to do? get an ipod and use istore? screw them

posted on Sep, 13 2009 @ 06:10 PM
reply to post by Stillalive

I plan to be a programmer myself. You people will stop copying! How am I gonna afford a Bentley or a Range Rover?

posted on Sep, 13 2009 @ 06:21 PM
xaxa dont worry,even if some people pirate your software,you will still be making alot of money especialy if ur ona fixed salary XD
or u can go open source to crush the economic machine

posted on Sep, 13 2009 @ 09:04 PM
reply to post by Ha`la`tha

The RIAA is not above the Supreme Court's ruling about piracy not being theft, so I'd say they're overstepping their boundaries there.

posted on Sep, 14 2009 @ 06:00 AM
well i guess with bribes and illegal actions they try to be over the court,and thats why theyr the bad guis,rich bastards who want to be even richer and crush all people like sheep,trying to play illegal like pirates too,well see hows thats going,they can never defeat the free people

posted on Sep, 14 2009 @ 08:07 AM
To give a somewhat more serious answer.

and thanks for all the stars everyone.

I have up and downloaded terabytes to the newsgroups in the past.

My provider almost cut me off.

I have over 500 original DVD's and CD's and about 1500 copied.

I spend about 100 euros a month on original stuff since I now have the finances to buy it, and I only buy the best ones.

Copying isn't wrong.

Making excessive profit on things you didn't make or do AND STILL COMPLAIN THAT IT ISN'T ENOUGH IS WRONG!.

There are no limits to greed, ask David Rockefeller...

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