"You Lie!" - Who took the picture of Joe Wilson? And how?, page

(pardon me if I put this in the wrong section, I gave up trying to decide and put it in psychology because the website posing the question is Psychology Today, MOD please move if you feel the thread is in the wrong place)

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This is excerpt from an online editorial from Satoshi Kanazawa, and Evolutionary Psychologist at the London School of Economics of Political Science on the Psychology Today website, dated Sept. 10, 2009.

So here's what I don't understand. If Joe Wilson's outburst during Obama's speech Wednesday night was truly "spontaneous," as Wilson claims, and no one (including Wilson himself) could have anticipated it, how come there is a sharply focused and neatly centered picture of Wilson right at the moment he shouted "You lie!" when the outburst lasted less than a second? In the picture, Wilson's mouth is still open, apparently in the middle of his shouting "lie."

I had not even thought about the outburst in the context of a closed session. Nor had I thought about the extremely low profile the congressman. I just figured Joe Wilson was some Republican I had never heard of, that he was not from my state, and that his supposed spontaneous act of defiance was an exercise is blustery, feather rustling politics. I knew that it was orchestrated, I just didn't realize that it was such an orchestrated piece of theater, and that the documentation of his actions was a concerted propaganda effort, due to closed nature of the proceedings.

I would like my fellow ATSers to discuss this orchestrated drama, and how it psychologically works on the populace. What was your reaction to the outburst? What is your reaction to the idea that "Congressman Joe Wilson doth protest too much", and this type of political stagecraft?

For me, the outburst by the congressman was more than disrespectful, it was out of line in a cheap, grandstanding way. A congressman is elected to represent the people who voted for them, not to express their own personal, spontaneous thoughts as a heckler. To know think about the facts of the events, I come to the same conclusion as Satoshi Kanazawa, and the act of heckling was a deliberate and well thought out act. I am not purporting a vast conspiracy on the matter, but perhaps something as simple as a heads up from the Congressman's staffers to a photog to keep an eye on the Congressman, he is guaranteed to blow up during the speech is enough conspiring to document the act as propaganda.

Maybe I am wrong, but I would love to discuss the possibilities of such.
DocMoreau

Originally posted by DocMoreau
(pardon me if I put this in the wrong section, I gave up trying to decide and put it in psychology because the website posing the question is Psychology Today, MOD please move if you feel the thread is in the wrong place)

Please follow the link to read the article in whole before posting.
www.psychologytoday.com...
This is excerpt from an online editorial from Satoshi Kanazawa, and Evolutionary Psychologist at the London School of Economics of Political Science on the Psychology Today website, dated Sept. 10, 2009.

So here's what I don't understand. If Joe Wilson's outburst during Obama's speech Wednesday night was truly "spontaneous," as Wilson claims, and no one (including Wilson himself) could have anticipated it, how come there is a sharply focused and neatly centered picture of Wilson right at the moment he shouted "You lie!" when the outburst lasted less than a second? In the picture, Wilson's mouth is still open, apparently in the middle of his shouting "lie."

I had not even thought about the outburst in the context of a closed session. Nor had I thought about the extremely low profile the congressman. I just figured Joe Wilson was some Republican I had never heard of, that he was not from my state, and that his supposed spontaneous act of defiance was an exercise is blustery, feather rustling politics. I knew that it was orchestrated, I just didn't realize that it was such an orchestrated piece of theater, and that the documentation of his actions was a concerted propaganda effort, due to closed nature of the proceedings.

I would like my fellow ATSers to discuss this orchestrated drama, and how it psychologically works on the populace. What was your reaction to the outburst? What is your reaction to the idea that "Congressman Joe Wilson doth protest too much", and this type of political stagecraft?

For me, the outburst by the congressman was more than disrespectful, it was out of line in a cheap, grandstanding way. A congressman is elected to represent the people who voted for them, not to express their own personal, spontaneous thoughts as a heckler. To know think about the facts of the events, I come to the same conclusion as Satoshi Kanazawa, and the act of heckling was a deliberate and well thought out act. I am not purporting a vast conspiracy on the matter, but perhaps something as simple as a heads up from the Congressman's staffers to a photog to keep an eye on the Congressman, he is guaranteed to blow up during the speech is enough conspiring to document the act as propaganda.

Maybe I am wrong, but I would love to discuss the possibilities of such.
DocMoreau

I gave a long-winded explanation in the other thread about PSYCHOLOGY TODAY and how ridiculous that bit of propaganda is. POPULAR MECHANICS/PSYCHOLOGY TODAY editors are shilling. They are on the payroll.

The answer is this: Multiple HD cams are getting every angle possible during the speech. Everyone in the room is on camera. It would be IMPOSSIBLE for any Congressman to shout like a refugee from a Palin rally and NOT be on camera. (And that's not including the various still photographers shooting reactions at the same time)

Had a still photo not appeared at least by the following day I'd have thought they were protecting the schmuck.

The bottom line is he behaved like a lunatic while cameras were pointed at him. Of course it will be on the news.

btw- He was confusing all the various ideas being pushed with what Obama is actually calling for. It clearly states in Obama's plan that no illegal will be covered under the plan. However, the same emergency room procedures we had in place during Bush remains in effect.

The emotional fellow was simply wrong.

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The flag raising by the marines was planned and staged by the photographer well after the actual event. Funny that you use that as an example...so maybe that outburst was staged as well.

[edit on 11-9-2009 by DJMSN]

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