Rockets fired from lebanon into Israel, page 1
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reply posted on 11-9-2009 @ 08:48 AM by heineken
do you think it will escalate ?

brb..i go and get some pop corn


S+F



reply posted on 11-9-2009 @ 08:49 AM by no1dea
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Keeping an eye on this one.
Me think the timing is just right for bad times!


reply posted on 11-9-2009 @ 09:06 AM by octotom
reply to post by Britguy



now why would the Lebanese or Hezbollah do that right now


You really don't need a reason to start a fight. For example, Hitler just kinda went into Poland one day. He didn't really have a reason.

Also, as I remember, Hezbollah is just one group that doesn't want a Jewish state to exist. That in and of itself could be enough right there.


reply posted on 11-9-2009 @ 09:07 AM by Silcone Synapse
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It would certainly be easy for a team of Israelis to hop over the border and fire these first two rockets...I would not put it past them at the moment,especially in context with Bibi's "secret" meeting with the Russians.

This could lead to a bigger dust up with Iran,as Hizbollah are funded by, and originated in Iran.

news.bbc.co.uk...

Two rockets have been fired into northern Israel from Lebanon. There were no immediate reports of casualties or damage. Remnants of a Katyusha rocket were found in Israel, police said.



reply posted on 11-9-2009 @ 09:12 AM by purehughness
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Indeed, it would be very easy for a Mossad team to sneak in, set it up and watch the fireworks.

What I'd like to know is, what weapons do Israelis use to retaliate? We know that Hezbollah uses Katyusha rockets (little more than oversized fireworks in this day and age)..

Already 10 missiles have been shot back at Lebanon, and I'd expect further retaliation to occur from both sides. Exactly how these situations escalate and then the big guns come out.


reply posted on 11-9-2009 @ 09:12 AM by Silcone Synapse
According to Reuters the Israelis retailliated with artillery,not rockets/missiles:

uk.news.yahoo.com...

At least two rockets from Lebanon struck northern Israel on Friday, prompting Israeli artillery to shell the fruit groves from which they were fired, security officials on both sides of the border said. Skip related content No casualties were immediately reported by Israeli police, who said two rockets landed. Lebanese security sources, who reported at least two outgoing missiles and 15 incoming Israeli shells, did not say who may have fired the rockets.


Not looking good at all.



reply posted on 11-9-2009 @ 09:17 AM by purehughness
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So they're kicking off without first having established who shot the rockets?

This could be very ugly.

Although, think back to Vietnam, when the VC would blend in to the civilian population to remain hidden, but able to strike at will.
Hezbollah could likely be using these tactics, but will ultimately lead to high civilian casualties...

Like last time:

Israel and the Lebanese militant and political group Hezbollah fought a devastating 34-day war across the border in July 2006.

On the Lebanese side more than 1,000 people died, mostly civilians. About 160 Israelis - most of them soldiers - died in the fighting and rocket fire.


Link


reply posted on 11-9-2009 @ 09:23 AM by Britguy
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A lot of those Lebanese civilians who died did so well away from the border as Israel sent in airstrikes against Lebanese civilian and commercial infrastructure, much of it located in population centres.

Hezbollah are a defence militia, they do not just go and attack Israel for no reason. Although there are many who will think so because they are branded, by some countries (not many though), as a terrorist organisation.


reply posted on 11-9-2009 @ 09:28 AM by purehughness
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Cool, fair point dude.

But what I was saying was, compared to the arms that the US supplies to Israel, it doesn't really compare, when the Katyusha was being used by the Russians in WW2.

Hence, disproportionate retaliation.


reply posted on 11-9-2009 @ 09:41 AM by ZeroKnowledge
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And artillery shells were used since 1800. So? Israel actually uses much more obsolete weapon then.....
For your information - Hizbollah uses 122mm BM-21 rockets, that are called Grad. Designed long after WW2. You probably heard about Georgians supposedly using it on South Ossetia and Russians using it in Chechnya. Then it was clearly not firework for you, i suppose. It carries about 20 kgs of payload and has range of tens kilometers.
The only proportional response from Israel would be to ask for more of these, i suppose? Oh, no, they fired back. Evil...Evil.....
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