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"THIS IS TO CERTIFY that at the National Convention of the Democrat Party of the United States of America, held in Denver, Colorado on August 25 though 28, 2008, the following were duly nominated as candidates...(")
Originally posted by Southern Guardian
reply to post by TrueAmerican
True american, where does this prove the DNC was under the conspiracy to certify a supposedly ineligible candidate? All I see are messages, veried apparently, but nevertheless certifications of both Obama and Biden as nominees. Your now basing the entire conspiracy on what one sheet of paper said what other one didnt. It doesnt make a difference at the end of the day as congress and the electoral college are given authority vai the constitution to clarify the eligibility of the candidate of interest, and on December 15th 2008 Obama was confirmed by both congress and the electoral college to be the new president elect, period. What pieces of paper were sent out that did or did not mention his eligibility will not change the confirmation of Obamas eligibility on December 15th 2008 by both congress and the electoral college.
You seem bent on removing a democratically and constitutionally elected president based on speculative theories as to what is what. Obama has provided his short form which was verified by the Hawaiian government and congress and the electoral college confirmed his eligibility. Nobody, neither you or your fellow believers have proven to us that Obama is ineligible so I really have to sit here and wonder why day and day in these threads why you try the same thing based on little to no evidence or fact to remove this man.
You want to talk about concern about freedom, liberty, and yet here you are making every attempt to move a democratic president based on really nothing to prove his ineligibility but your own personal suspicions and dislike. Hows that for preserving the constitution, eh?
Im pritty darn sure there are better things you can be critical of Obama and the DNC for.
SG
[edit on 11-9-2009 by Southern Guardian]
Originally posted by PowerSlave
Sorry BH, I was meaning to reply before your post but had to step away
I wonder, perhaps the first doc made was in error without that last line. So they had to do it again and made a second one with the new line added. Perhaps they tried to leave it out originally but someone would not accept it. Or it is indeed a fake.
Originally posted by arcnaver
reply to post by KnoxMSP
I do not believe that is how that would work as any decision Obama made as a fraudulent President would be null and void, meaning anyone he put into a cabinet position would have to be removed as well.
Originally posted by TrueAmerican
I am amazed you actually took the time to make that forgery!
Look at every element of the first doc to the second doc, and you will see that the size reduction is consistent through and through.
if prior declerations for the candidates i cite above can be requested , and shown to contain the clause :
` and is legally eligible ` then i would be convinced
Originally posted by Southern Guardian
reply to post by TrueAmerican
True american, where does this prove the DNC was under the conspiracy to certify a supposedly ineligible candidate? All I see are messages, veried apparently, but nevertheless certifications of both Obama and Biden as nominees. Your now basing the entire conspiracy on what one sheet of paper said what other one didnt. It doesnt make a difference at the end of the day as congress and the electoral college are given authority vai the constitution to clarify the eligibility of the candidate of interest, and on December 15th 2008 Obama was confirmed by both congress and the electoral college to be the new president elect, period. What pieces of paper were sent out that did or did not mention his eligibility will not change the confirmation of Obamas eligibility on December 15th 2008 by both congress and the electoral college.
You seem bent on removing a democratically and constitutionally elected president based on speculative theories as to what is what. Obama has provided his short form which was verified by the Hawaiian government and congress and the electoral college confirmed his eligibility. Nobody, neither you or your fellow believers have proven to us that Obama is ineligible so I really have to sit here and wonder why day and day in these threads why you try the same thing based on little to no evidence or fact to remove this man.
You want to talk about concern about freedom, liberty, and yet here you are making every attempt to move a democratic president based on really nothing to prove his ineligibility but your own personal suspicions and dislike. Hows that for preserving the constitution, eh?
Im pritty darn sure there are better things you can be critical of Obama and the DNC for.
SG
[edit on 11-9-2009 by Southern Guardian]
Originally posted by TrueAmerican
However, this document was never delivered to a single state DNC Office for state certification, and it was therefore, never presented to any state Election Commission as certification of these candidates, although I do have a copy of this notarized document myself.
Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
Question. How does he know that this document (with the Constitutional Language) was never delivered? Especially since the Hawaii Response INCLUDES this document, which they claim to have received from the Democratic Party?