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Originally posted by whatukno
So looking at that it makes me think that there is no set form for South Carolina in submitting presidential nominations.
In fact, there appear not to be just 2 documents but perhaps as many as 50 documents, probably because every state would like an original, notarized document. The Washington State document and the South Carolina document are two different documents, as can be seen from the signatures.
Different States have different requirements for the certification. For example, we know that the letter with the complete text was sent to Hawaii. We also know that the example for the abridged document was filed in South Carolina. During the complete election cycle, and depending on the specific state laws, a candidate files a “declaration of candidacy” to run in the primaries of the State in question. Once elected in the primaries, the state representative of the Party in question files a “certification of candidates” which verifies that the candidate meets the requirements of the State to run for office.
The document signed by Mr Obama states that he meets the qualifications for the office of the President of the United States and is a registered member of the Democratic Party. Dec 1, 2008
“I, Barack Obama, …. that I am a candidate for nomination to the office President of the United States of America,…, and that I am legally qualified (including being the holder of any license that may be an eligibility requirement for the office I seek the nomination for) to hold such office”
“You are hereby notified that I, Barack Obama, am seeking nomination as a candidate for the office of President of the United States from the Democratic Party, at the Presidential Preference Election to be held on the 5th day of February 2008. I am a natural born citizen of the United States, am at least thirty-five years of age, and have been a resident within the United States for at least fourteen years”
According to this “MEMORANDUM OF COMPLAINT OF ELECTION FRAUD AGAINST BOYD L. RICHIE, CHAIR, TEXAS DEMOCRATIC PARTY and REQUEST FOR INVESTIGATION”:
On August 27, 2008 Boyd L. Richie, Chair, Texas Democratic Party, signed 2 (two) separate Certifications of Nomination swearing Barack Obama, the D party candidate for POTUS, is a NBC, both of which Certifications he submitted to Texas elections officials so they would print Mr. Obama’s name on the Texas general election ballot. Boyd Richie submitted 2 (two) documents to Texas elections officials confirming Mr. Obama was the D party nominee: 1) a letter to elections official certifying Mr. Obama had been “nominated” as POTUS; and 2) an “OFFICIAL CERTIFICATION OF NOMINATION” swearing Mr. Obama had been “duly nominated” as the D party candidate. That is, he had been nominated in accordance with D party rules and procedures.
The Constitution stipulates that “no person except a natural born citizen” shall be eligible to serve as president. The Presidential Eligibility Act proposed in March by Rep. Bill Posey, R-Fla., would require campaign committees to submit a copy of the candidate's birth certificate to the Federal Election Commission with other documentation as necessary to prove eligibility.
Little League test
Poe, a former prosecutor and criminal court judge, says he “never said” Obama was born “anywhere but the United States,” but adds: “To ensure that we eliminate future debates and adhere to the Constitution, we simply should do what Little Leagues all across our country do and require that birth certificates be provided at the time of registration.”
Dear Ms. XXXXX
Attached are the following documents:
2000, 2004 and 2008 DNC and RNC certification of Presidential candidates.
You will note that both the DNC and the RNC use the same wording in their respective 2008 certificates as they had in 2000 and 2004.
There is no required wording in Federal or NC law as to the wording of certification document by a political party to a state elections office of a presidential candidate.
NC State Board of Elections
Originally posted by liveandlearn
reply to post by Pauligirl
Well, that is very interesting Pauligirl. So the Dems never give the statement that the nominee is duly qualified as opposed to nominated and the Repubs do. What is up with that?
Also, the DNC, thus far, sent the written verification of qualification only to the nominee's 'alleged' state of birth even though we know that SC requires written verification.
It would be very interesting to see what Hawaii got from the DNC in 2004.
To those who oppose, I believe these are legitimate questions.
[edit on 15-9-2009 by liveandlearn]
(c) All candidates for President and Vice President of the United States shall be qualified for inclusion on the general election ballot under either of the following procedures:
(1) In the case of candidates of political parties which have been qualified to place candidates on the primary and general election ballots, the appropriate official of those parties shall file a sworn application with the chief election officer not later than 4:30 p.m. on the sixtieth day prior to the general election, which shall include:
(A) The name and address of each of the two candidates;
(B) A statement that each candidate is legally qualified to serve under the provisions of the United States Constitution;
(C) A statement that the candidates are the duly chosen candidates of both the state and the national party, giving the time, place, and manner of the selection.
Originally posted by whatukno
From what I gather the bottom part seems to be about the signers themselves and not the candidate.
Originally posted by Highground
I just checked, Georgia has no such clause in the code pertaining to certification of political party candidates.
Political parties nominating candidates by primary or convention must verify the qualifications of those candidates prior to certification to the authority charged by law with preparing the ballot. The written certification required by this section must contain a statement that each candidate certified meets, or will meet by the time of the general election, or as otherwise required by law, the qualifications for the office for which he has filed.
Originally posted by whatukno
This thread my friends is an example of scarecrow politics. The OP without thoroughly researching the facts involved brought forth a fear and smear campaign against an elected official. Using the popular "birther" theory that Obama for some reason is not eligible for the office has tried to twist the facts to show his side of the tale.
Originally posted by TrueAmerican
Read the authors website. He says himself he only reports on what he can prove with facts, and no conspiracy theory involved here. If I had my wish I would just write all this off as mere theory. Problem is that it's the truth.
However upon further examination it is obvious that Obama was in fact "duly" nominated by the DNC and therefore along with the fact that he was born in Hawaii, is over the age of 35 and has resided in the United States for the last 14 years makes Obama well qualified constitutionally to be our president.
Obama's father was Kenyan. According to Kenyan/British colonial law, after he moved out of Kenya, he was still considered Kenyan. As a result, when Barack was born, he held a dual citizenship - one to Britain/Kenya, and one to United States.