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..Why ARE America and Americans so biased?..

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posted on Sep, 11 2009 @ 02:52 AM
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Originally posted by SpaceGoatsFarts

Originally posted by Resinveins
And are we now blaming the American populace for what their "news" agencies decide to air on the tube?


Because media are offering what the masses are CRAVING for ? Just saying...


Funny.. most people these days are saying the American "news" agencies are controlled by the "elite" and tailor there content to influence the populace one way or the other... not tailoring their content to what the populace wants to see...


If a channel would offer to U.S. citizens news coverage about the rest of the world, relaying information about U.S. soldiers raping little girls, and about U.S. refusing international treaties such as the International Campaign to Ban Landmines, the Kyoto treaty or the International Court of Justice, would that channel become a hit ?

Very unlikely.


I doubt so too. I also doubt there are any countries that could answer yes to that particular question though... so I think we have plenty of company on that one.


People just want channels to air stupid TV shows and movies in HD (and some domestic news plus the weather).


You could apply that statement to most countries in the world.. at least the developed ones.



They get what they asked for. + most are lazy and take everything on U.S. TV for granted, and never check what is the opinion of the rest of the world. This is why we hate the U.S. government AND the american idiots (not all of them, just those who don't care about what's outside their town). I call those people the spoiled kids of the world.


Here is where we agree... most Americans do desperately need to be more world aware. And not think their opinion is necessarily right or is the only opinion that matters.


If your whole country doesn't wake up (not just a few), you are condemned to watch [snip]y news coverage.


See above. I don't think we control this.. so I think we're pretty much condemned to watch crappy "news" regardless.


Also Americans HATE to be criticised by foreigners (they think only them understand their country enough to have the right to criticize it), yet at the same time, they don't hesitate to criticize ALL the other countries of the world. The American media do just like the American people.


Blanket opinions like that, especially when they are stated as fact, tend to make you look very.... dare I say it?... "American"



On an unrelated note... love the avatar... very nice







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posted on Sep, 11 2009 @ 03:07 AM
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what an ignorant response. We choose our leaders? we choose our government? Not likely. We choose which of the wealthy millionaires are going to represent a country mostly on the borderline of poverty, and we choose which congressmen and president will get millions from lobbyists to make laws benefiting the corporations and costing the taxpayers their money security and freedom. If you truly think you get to choose anything, i would ask you....when is the last time we voted on whether we went to war or not, whether the FDA should butt out of natural medicine, whether tax should be raised or lowered? The only things we truly get to vote on are things which have no impact on government or corporate interest and profit.



posted on Sep, 11 2009 @ 04:39 AM
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Originally posted by Resinveins
Funny.. most people these days are saying the American "news" agencies are controlled by the "elite" and tailor there content to influence the populace one way or the other... not tailoring their content to what the populace wants to see...


I think it is more : most conspiracy theorists these days are saying the American "news" agencies are controlled by the "elite". It is partly true, but media cannot ignore the "basic needs" of their customers.

If the customers wanted more international news, at least a few media would answer that need. Your economy is supposed to be based on the law of demand and supply. I don't buy it that U.S. media are in a situation of monopoly.



I doubt so too. I also doubt there are any countries that could answer yes to that particular question though... so I think we have plenty of company on that one.


Nope, it really depends on the country's culture. I guess in France or China it would be the same. But in my country (Belgium) and maybe in others like UK ? (not sure), one of the national sport is to criticize the government. And if our country is pinned in an international report for "higher taxes", "most uneducated children of EU", etc, ... the media would all cover this and relay the information. We have absolutely no problem with criticism. We already had to cope with France's scorn for decades. Guess that help.




You could apply that statement to most countries in the world.. at least the developed ones.


So true. But the fact is that all those shows and movies are formatted for the american culture, and coming originally from US.

Also this is why we have public service channels. Their mission is not to make money (they are funded by the gov), but to educate the people. They offer higher quality content (intellectually speaking) and are nevertheless gathering 20% market share (and 35% for the news !). Which is quite good considering they do not air blockbusters or stupid shows.

And they are "almost" independant on the political side. This because we have a one turn electoral system. That favors multiple small parties instead of two big ones like in US and France. So a party will not concentrate too much power. This is one of the reason why politics and media sleep together in the US (and also the fact that you allow candidates to receive private company's money for their campaign)



See above. I don't think we control this.. so I think we're pretty much condemned to watch crappy "news" regardless.


Well, YOU decide what you watch, not your TV set. If you prefer British news, watch them on the net for exemple.



Blanket opinions like that, especially when they are stated as fact, tend to make you look very.... dare I say it?... "American"
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I know
I allow myself to criticize the U.S. because I have absolutely no problem with them criticizing my country. In fact I do it myself




On an unrelated note... love the avatar... very nice


Thanks



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[edit on 11-9-2009 by SpaceGoatsFarts]



posted on Sep, 11 2009 @ 05:05 AM
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Originally posted by pexx421
what an ignorant response. We choose our leaders? we choose our government? Not likely. We choose which of the wealthy millionaires are going to represent a country mostly on the borderline of poverty, and we choose which congressmen and president will get millions from lobbyists to make laws benefiting the corporations and costing the taxpayers their money security and freedom. If you truly think you get to choose anything, i would ask you....when is the last time we voted on whether we went to war or not, whether the FDA should butt out of natural medicine, whether tax should be raised or lowered? The only things we truly get to vote on are things which have no impact on government or corporate interest and profit.


On the other hand, you may choose which TV channel you are watching. You can even choose not to buy a TV set.

I'm not saying I like your political system as it is today, but you still have many choices to make whatsoever. you cannot blame everything on your leaders.



posted on Sep, 11 2009 @ 11:22 AM
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thats true, we cant blame everything on our leaders. In the past we had many social changes in the US, labor laws made it our right to have a safe workplace, and at one time guaranteed an honest days pay for an honest days labor, racial equality was established, women given the right to vote. All these things were forced on our government by our forefathers who had the bravery to stand up and take abuse, imprisonment, harassment, and often murder at the hands of the government and corporations that did not want us to have these rights. Often these movements were supported largely by the african american community, the socialist and communist party, and the hippies and peaceniks. Sadly today we dont have any of the organization that these groups offered, and few of us are willing to put that much effort forth, and so our government runs pretty much unchecked. I imagine that it will seriously take the collapse of the middle class before we get the nerve to withstand such tribulations again in order to make things better. May come soon.



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