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Youtube Censoring Sheen's Video to Obama


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reply posted on 16-9-2009 @ 04:17 AM by rich23


Thought I'd drop by this thread to see how the discussion was going and I have to say that Squidboy and Harpsounds (fantastic avatar btw, Lydon's an intelligent and ornery guy) are providing intelligent back and forth as far as I can see.

Why honest attempts to assess whether Goo-Tube are pulling a fast one on this video should make people seem like conspiracy nuts is beyond me.

Harpsounds (from the little I've seen) seems like a genuine skeptic rather than a debunker, and there's politeness and respect between the two of them as they try to figure out what's happening.

Neither of them look like nutcases to me, in fact it seems like this thread is an example of what ATS is all about.



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reply posted on 17-9-2009 @ 10:17 PM by squidboy


Update

Deletion of Honors continue.

Honors as of 9/17

#1 - Most Discussed (This Week)
#1 - Most Discussed (This Week) - News & Politics
#11 - Most Discussed (This Month)
#2 - Most Discussed (This Month) - News & Politics
#88 - Most Discussed (All Time) - News & Politics
#15 - Most Viewed (This Month) - News & Politics
#15 - Top Favorited (This Week)
#1 - Top Favorited (This Week) - News & Politics
#2 - Top Favorited (This Month) - News & Politics
#3 - Top Rated (This Month) - News & Politics

Please look again at this one. In a matter of days... Where did these honors go?

The following posted Honors were present on 9/15:

#24 - Most Responded (Today)
#4 - Most Responded (Today) - News & Politics
#7 - Most Responded (This Week)
#1 - Most Responded (This Week) - News & Politics
#29 - Most Responded (This Month)
#4 - Most Responded (This Month) - News & Politics
#13 - Most Responded (All Time) - News & Politics

They have now vanished. Most Responded Honors have been deleted.

For more of an eye opener. Here were the honors that were present on 7/14.

#1 - Most Discussed (This Week)
#1 - Most Discussed (This Week) - News & Politics
#21 - Most Discussed (This Month)
#3 - Most Discussed (This Month) - News & Politics
#12 - Most Responded (Today)
#2 - Most Responded (Today) - News & Politics
#8 - Most Responded (This Week)
#1 - Most Responded (This Week) - News & Politics
#29 - Most Responded (This Month)
#4 - Most Responded (This Month) - News & Politics
#13 - Most Responded (All Time) - News & Politics
#13 - Most Viewed (This Week) - Australia
#16 - Most Viewed (This Week) - Canada
#41 - Most Viewed (This Week) - United Kingdom
#28 - Most Viewed (This Week) - Ireland
#23 - Most Viewed (This Week) - New Zealand
#29 - Most Viewed (This Week)
#48 - Most Viewed (This Week) - Netherlands
#83 - Most Viewed (This Week) - Czech Republic
#77 - Most Viewed (This Week) - Sweden
#17 - Most Viewed (This Week) - News & Politics - Germany
#1 - Most Viewed (This Week) - News & Politics - Australia
#1 - Most Viewed (This Week) - News & Politics - Canada
#1 - Most Viewed (This Week) - News & Politics - United Kingdom
#1 - Most Viewed (This Week) - News & Politics - Ireland
#13 - Most Viewed (This Week) - News & Politics - India
#1 - Most Viewed (This Week) - News & Politics - New Zealand
#18 - Most Viewed (This Week) - News & Politics - Israel
#3 - Most Viewed (This Week) - News & Politics
#28 - Most Viewed (This Week) - News & Politics - Spain
#89 - Most Viewed (This Week) - News & Politics - Mexico
#43 - Most Viewed (This Week) - News & Politics - France
#46 - Most Viewed (This Week) - News & Politics - South Korea
#5 - Most Viewed (This Week) - News & Politics - Netherlands
#8 - Most Viewed (This Week) - News & Politics - Poland
#35 - Most Viewed (This Week) - News & Politics - Brazil
#32 - Most Viewed (This Week) - News & Politics - Russia
#84 - Most Viewed (This Week) - News & Politics - Hong Kong
#5 - Most Viewed (This Week) - News & Politics - Czech Republic
#1 - Most Viewed (This Week) - News & Politics - Sweden
#17 - Most Viewed (This Month) - News & Politics
#15 - Top Favorited (This Week)
#1 - Top Favorited (This Week) - News & Politics
#3 - Top Favorited (This Month) - News & Politics
#77 - Top Rated (This Week)
#2 - Top Rated (This Week) - News & Politics
#5 - Top Rated (This Month) - News & Politics

In 3 days, this video went from 47 honors to 10.







[edit on 17-9-2009 by squidboy]



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reply posted on 19-9-2009 @ 11:45 AM by squidboy


Honors update 9/19:

#8 - Most Discussed (This Month)
#1 - Most Discussed (This Month) - News & Politics
#74 - Most Discussed (All Time) - News & Politics
#35 - Most Viewed (This Week) - Australia
#36 - Most Viewed (This Week) - Canada
#43 - Most Viewed (This Week) - United Kingdom
#28 - Most Viewed (This Week) - Ireland
#75 - Most Viewed (This Week) - India
#41 - Most Viewed (This Week) - New Zealand
#44 - Most Viewed (This Week) - Netherlands
#86 - Most Viewed (This Week) - Czech Republic
#65 - Most Viewed (This Week) - Sweden
#10 - Most Viewed (This Week) - News & Politics - Germany
#3 - Most Viewed (This Week) - News & Politics - Australia
#4 - Most Viewed (This Week) - News & Politics - Canada
#3 - Most Viewed (This Week) - News & Politics - United Kingdom
#3 - Most Viewed (This Week) - News & Politics - Ireland
#8 - Most Viewed (This Week) - News & Politics - India
#4 - Most Viewed (This Week) - News & Politics - New Zealand
#10 - Most Viewed (This Week) - News & Politics - Israel
#4 - Most Viewed (This Week) - News & Politics
#9 - Most Viewed (This Week) - News & Politics - Spain
#47 - Most Viewed (This Week) - News & Politics - Mexico
#35 - Most Viewed (This Week) - News & Politics - France
#67 - Most Viewed (This Week) - News & Politics - Japan
#32 - Most Viewed (This Week) - News & Politics - South Korea
#4 - Most Viewed (This Week) - News & Politics - Netherlands
#7 - Most Viewed (This Week) - News & Politics - Poland
#22 - Most Viewed (This Week) - News & Politics - Brazil
#23 - Most Viewed (This Week) - News & Politics - Russia
#46 - Most Viewed (This Week) - News & Politics - Hong Kong
#6 - Most Viewed (This Week) - News & Politics - Czech Republic
#2 - Most Viewed (This Week) - News & Politics - Sweden
#10 - Most Viewed (This Month) - News & Politics
#2 - Top Favorited (This Month) - News & Politics
#4 - Top Rated (This Month) - News & Politics

Hmmm, still not one "most responded" honor. Odd seeing that the honor was originally at one point presented for the video (several in fact). Where'd they go?

That leaves these are the American Honors:

#8 - Most Discussed (This Month)
#1 - Most Discussed (This Month) - News & Politics
#74 - Most Discussed (All Time) - News & Politics
#4 - Most Viewed (This Week) - News & Politics
#10 - Most Viewed (This Month) - News & Politics
#2 - Top Favorited (This Month) - News & Politics
#4 - Top Rated (This Month) - News & Politics


Compare this list with the honors posted on 9/17

#1 - Most Discussed (This Week)
#1 - Most Discussed (This Week) - News & Politics
#11 - Most Discussed (This Month)
#2 - Most Discussed (This Month) - News & Politics
#88 - Most Discussed (All Time) - News & Politics
#15 - Most Viewed (This Month) - News & Politics
#15 - Top Favorited (This Week)
#1 - Top Favorited (This Week) - News & Politics
#2 - Top Favorited (This Month) - News & Politics
#3 - Top Rated (This Month) - News & Politics

Guess there was a reset at some point, thus the lowering of some, and the deletion of week honors.

Regardless, let's see how long these 37 honors last, seeing how at one point 47 honors were listed. Interesting seeing International honors being posted again, these are the quickest to be deleted, in no specific manner. On day, deleted, on another day, delelted, and now again back. It's like a wave of honors, that come in with the tide...

Video's still stuck at 600k, depsite having the ratings and comments of a 4 Million view video as well.



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reply posted on 1-10-2009 @ 08:16 AM by wycky


I thought i would check out the video to see how it was doing.

right now has
729,634 views
10,147 ratings (seems to be low with over 700,000 views)
36,240 comments ( i think is low to)

Honors for this video (6)
#4 - Most Discussed (This Month)
#1 - Most Discussed (This Month) - News & Politics
#46 - Most Discussed (All Time) - News & Politics
#12 - Most Viewed (This Month) - News & Politics
#3 - Top Favorited (This Month) - News & Politics
#6 - Top Rated (This Month) - News & Politics

its says #12 for most viewed this month, but it should be 3rd most viewed.
Going by most viewed currently in 3rd place is Beyonce with just over 304,000 views, this video should be in that position

so something still stinks



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reply posted on 5-10-2009 @ 08:56 PM by squidboy


Originally posted by wycky
I thought i would check out the video to see how it was doing.

right now has
729,634 views
10,147 ratings (seems to be low with over 700,000 views)
36,240 comments ( i think is low to)

Honors for this video (6)
#4 - Most Discussed (This Month)
#1 - Most Discussed (This Month) - News & Politics
#46 - Most Discussed (All Time) - News & Politics
#12 - Most Viewed (This Month) - News & Politics
#3 - Top Favorited (This Month) - News & Politics
#6 - Top Rated (This Month) - News & Politics

its says #12 for most viewed this month, but it should be 3rd most viewed.
Going by most viewed currently in 3rd place is Beyonce with just over 304,000 views, this video should be in that position

so something still stinks



Yep, however no matter how much evidence you have people don't really care. They think since it has 700k views, then it's fixed, and there's nothing to see.... It's affected tons of truth videos, this one was just so obvious. This is why I started the thread, and stuck with it...

I found it to be a very interesting occurrence. And yes, Sheen and Jones have commented on the Youtube manipulation for this video (and others).

I miss the old days of Youtube, when the numbers came as they came, comments were not deleted, and ratings stuck. The only loop hole would occur on weekends, when Porn videos would slip by the censors until Monday when they were erased...

Not today, really sad.... But it is just a sign of things to come really, with Internet 2.

It's also incredible, that no one wanted to debate Sheen.... It's obvious to me, what occurred on 9/11, and it's act such as these that strengthen my belief.

Regardless.... Youtube will continue to this... But at least it's obvious that they do. Hopefully one day, people will be held lawfully accountable.



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reply posted on 5-10-2009 @ 09:04 PM by Lillydale


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Are there not alternatives to youtube that are not so strictly niche sites that no one would find them? If not, why not start one? Someone must have the time and money.



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reply posted on 6-10-2009 @ 09:08 AM by jprophet420


Originally posted by Lillydale
reply to post by squidboy



Are there not alternatives to youtube that are not so strictly niche sites that no one would find them? If not, why not start one? Someone must have the time and money.


As I have mentioned several times now, torrents. I took the time to convert the .flv file, make a torrent, and seed it. There is nothing stopping anyone from either seeding it or starting their own.

www.mininova.org...

Its completely free and requires a small amount of "work". I guess thats why we choose to QQ in forums rather than DO something about it.



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reply posted on 6-10-2009 @ 10:52 PM by Lillydale


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Sorry I asked. I use utorrent quite frequently but there is a lot of crap out there with viruses embedded and tons of fake .rar files. I just thought there must be some other website that does not require an anonymous download of files directly onto my machine. I also thought that if there was not such a thing, then the market place is certainly in need of one.



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