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Should the US get out of other countries?

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posted on Sep, 10 2009 @ 06:11 PM
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So the good 'ol USA has corrupted all the governments of the world? And here I was, thinking world dominations was a century or more away...


If all the governments were corrupted into liking the USA, we would have made some giant international war and crushed all of America's enemies under a sea of global cooperation. But all I see are our allies assisting us.

I'm sure that any of the countries we are in could change their mind and make us leave. This would, of course, result in negative ties between us and that decreases trade and all that.
Basically, countries we have troops in think it is wise to be nice to the big kid on the block; Be nice and reap the benefits or be mean and suffer the consequences.

[edit on 10-9-2009 by fleetlord]




posted on Sep, 10 2009 @ 06:26 PM
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They are all fine countries with honorable people but I am tapped out -I think we should go home.



posted on Sep, 10 2009 @ 07:58 PM
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United states has military personnel in Russia? You mean regular troops? Come on, you don't really believe this.



posted on Sep, 10 2009 @ 09:45 PM
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Maybe we should amend the Constitution to give the government the right to have control over other countries...But then, how much fun would that be to make legal what our elected officials would do anyways?
I think we need to pull all of our troops out of everywhere in the world and bring them home. We have no business in the affairs of other countries unless they have some GOLD or FINE WINES to pay us for our efforts. We have more stuff than we can handle here at home and should be fixing that first.



posted on Sep, 10 2009 @ 10:13 PM
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Originally posted by sr_robert1
reply to post by sharps
 


Maybe we should amend the Constitution to give the government the right to have control over other countries...But then, how much fun would that be to make legal what our elected officials would do anyways?
I think we need to pull all of our troops out of everywhere in the world and bring them home. We have no business in the affairs of other countries unless they have some GOLD or FINE WINES to pay us for our efforts. We have more stuff than we can handle here at home and should be fixing that first.


We have troops in other countries as per treaties, and to protect our interests in other countries. We also need staging locations, should a regional war involving an ally of ours become involved in armed conflict.



posted on Sep, 10 2009 @ 10:57 PM
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Shouldn't to difficult to get out of New Zealand, you only have 5 US military personnel based here.... the rest usually transit via Christchurch to Antarctica.



posted on Sep, 11 2009 @ 12:03 AM
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No, I think the US should take over the world already. C'mon get it over with, you know you want to


I feel many countries would greatly benefit from being part of the US empire. I mean who wouldn't want the US constitution, it's human rights and best of all a share in US's wealth and power.



posted on Sep, 11 2009 @ 12:05 AM
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That's actually a good point. Most countries have benefitted from being part of an Empire.



posted on Sep, 11 2009 @ 01:51 AM
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WHY ARE WE IN AFGHANISTAN?

there is no war on terror.couldn't obama just have the taliban over for some beers?
in 1997 the tom brown drilling company invited the tsaliban elite over to texas, to party down.and have them allow a shiny new pipeline from pakistan to turkisministan.
it was a 4.5 billon dollar project for haliburton.---back then.

guess what the taliban said? NO!
SO IT'S ONE TWO THREE WHAT ARE FIGHTIN FOR? DONT ASK ME I DONT GIVE A DAMN THE NEXT STOP IS AFGHAISTAN country joe and the fish

why are we still fighting for haliburtons oil?welcome to the new VIET NAM,BRING BROUGHT TO THOSE THET 6PROTESTED AGAINST THE FIRST ONE.

SEE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU SMOKE TOO MUCH WEED,AND DO A TAD TOO MUCH ACID?
bill ayres and jeffrey carl jones would know...ask them
these guys are traitors to peace,and now they want the world,for their very own.
have fun fellahs,you aint gettig my piece


answer to op yes ,all except avowed allies,because when the false flagthe progressives hits,we will need the slodiers.
dont forget ,the UN took over strategic national parks,which would be great places to hunker down UN troops thay we cant claim to be on our siol.
look up UN biospheres. billy"bargain basement" clinton,just gave 'em away.

just for fun ,look up 101 reasons vince foster was killed=== its a geat read

[edit on 11-9-2009 by Spectre0o0]



posted on Sep, 11 2009 @ 04:14 AM
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Originally posted by mikerussellus
But America is a stabilizing factor. Just sayin'


But is it really, though?

I mean, forgetting oil conspiracies and the such, the invasion of Iraq after the WTC attack didn't promote stability - in fact, it's destabilised the region - at least in my opinion of what I have observed.

And the same with Afghanistan.

While both of those countries were run/managed by "less-than-desirable" indviduals, they were at least *stable* before the US decided to attack. While Saddam was in power, I could still travel to Iraq without fear of being blown up, kidnapped or executed.

I really don't see how these latest two conflicts have brought any "stability".





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posted on Sep, 11 2009 @ 06:37 AM
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Originally posted by sharps
Should the US military get their military personnel out of other countries?


There is an old phrase that is very apt for this exact question
"YANKEE GO HOME."



[edit on 11-9-2009 by acrux]



posted on Sep, 11 2009 @ 07:49 AM
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Originally posted by sharps
Should the US military get their military personnel out of other countries?


Yes. The US needs to stop acting like an Empire, and act like a Republic. Republics tend to be respected, and last. Empires tend to be feared, and always come to a bad end.



"I am so sick of other countries people commenting on our country.If it was up to me i would ban anyone not from here posting their comment."

Are you a US citizen who agrees with this statement?


I am a US citizen who strongly disagrees with this statement. A desire to supress comment indicates to me a sense of guilt / shame / embarrassment about something. If the US had been acting like a Republic the last half-century, there would be little if anything to be embarrassed about. As it is, there is plenty.



posted on Sep, 11 2009 @ 08:19 AM
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Originally posted by mikerussellus
reply to post by sharps
 

Sure. Let's let the rest of the world just go to hell.

We'll be safe, right?



Are you serious?
You really think that if heavily your armed "gangsters for capitalism" left any or all of the countries it currently occupies that they would descend into anarchy that would then affect the US? Really?
That is the kind of thinking that simply staggers the rest of the world.

There a billions of people living happily in peace with or without you.
The world managed for tens of thousands of years without you. Think about it. You ARE NOT THE CENTER OF OUR EMOTIONAL UNIVERSES!

The simple truth is that your militarized mindset is a sickness that we can do without.
The average American has been brainwashed since birth that "might is right", "god is on our side" etc etc ad nausem and is simply blind to the fact that your military economy & international adventurism is a racket aimed solely at securing resources and generating profit for the financial elite that facilitate and supply your war machine.
I repeat, we 5 Billion+ despair at you. No one likes a bully or a butcher. FACT.
Leave us the hell alone.



posted on Sep, 11 2009 @ 08:25 AM
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Then give us the boot. I am 100% certain that if a country rose up and said, we don't want you here, we'd leave.

But unless you can show how the US NOT being somewhere has led to peace and tranquility, then you're just another american basher.



posted on Sep, 11 2009 @ 08:52 AM
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Originally posted by mikerussellus
reply to post by virricocha
 


Then give us the boot. I am 100% certain that if a country rose up and said, we don't want you here, we'd leave.

But unless you can show how the US NOT being somewhere has led to peace and tranquility, then you're just another american basher.


Um, how about pretty much all of Central America since your dictator supporting "advisers" and their death squad students left.
University of the Americas anyone? Google it if you have to, which I suspect you may.

USA! USA! USA! NOT.



posted on Sep, 11 2009 @ 09:31 AM
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You know that only 40% of Americans pay income tax to the federal government?

You know that is just 1.7 %percent of the population of the planet?

Why?

Why oh why, should 1.7 percent of the population of the planet be responsible for paying the bills covering a world police / occupation / stabilization / war machine for the 6.9 odd billion people on this planet?

Even worse, why should we be on the hook for the 12 billion in debt that the Washington mob has borrowed and the interest on it as well?

I say bring em all home.

Soldiers, sailors, airmen, Marines, technicians, politicians, envoys, aid workers every body that is financed by the government in any capacity.

Bring all of the hardware home.

Planes, ships, tanks, missiles, technology, helicopters, hospitals, ect.

Bulldoze every base. Pull down every embassy. Strip every installation. Fill in every well. Plant grass and trees where airstrips and army bases were. Dismantle all Naval ports. Fill in every silo.

Pull all aid in the form of food, money, equipment, medical, dental, education.............pull it all.

NO MORE.

Bring it all home and rebuild the USA.
Get our roads fixed. Get our bridges updated. Get our schools straightened out. Get our borders sealed and straighten out the state of immigration. Get proper care for our elderly. Get decent infrastructure in every area instead of the ones where powerful politicians want it. Get our young people decent college educations. Rebuild our manufacturing base. Repatriate our industry that has been sent overseas. Revamp our agriculture so that we can grow a simple food supply without using tons of chemicals and genetically modified sci fi garbage.

Pay our bills and then reduce taxes so we can afford to save money and invest for retirement.

I'm with all of those that say we are not welcome in the rest of the world.

We don't belong there.

Bring it all home.

Let them take care of themselves.

For gods sake, how about we start taking care of our own citizens for a change.





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posted on Sep, 11 2009 @ 10:47 AM
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We're pretty much Rome all over again. Imagine if they had the means we do to occupy all lands, history would defitinitely be different. As for our troops being in other countries, I would say no. I'm not against sending medical aide or troops to other countries if they experienced a major natural disaster, but as for fighting their wars, telling them how to run their countries, etc, I'm against that. The United States should only lead by example, meaning we should practice what we preach about freedom, prosperity, peace and betterment of humanity, not by forcing our ways onto others.

Forcing people to believe something doesn't work, it might hold for a long time but eventually people will just revolt. I don't think the U.S has much of a culture, in fact I think the U.S has one of the lamest cultures in the world, historically speaking. With so much U.S influence, i find it sad that other coutnries are adopting our ways. It's one thing to learn from other cultures, but different one one becomes the other.



posted on Sep, 11 2009 @ 10:54 AM
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I think the US should pull out of other countries. concentrate on defending our nation, and use some of the saved defence budget money to build America back into a respectable nation. rebuild/update our own infrastructure. Help others when needed, and or asked- I feel like we are hated by everyone, because we are the world bully. We can never come together as "the human race" with borders, and oppressive tactics.
I know I would not like any other nations "occupying" or otherwise doing military training on our soil...so why do we? I have to say I do not see the point of having our military spead all over the world...


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posted on Sep, 11 2009 @ 11:12 AM
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I, an american, must support the statement that we actually bring destabilization around the world. I am pretty sure that we cause more destruction and murder than we cause peace and harmony. I imagine you are trying to say that Iraq and afghanistan support US bases being there? Come on, we are in conquest of those lands right now, and they are fighting back with everything they have

. What country has benefitted from US leaving? Vietnam seems to be doing well now. Sure, they had a massive collapse and cleansing post the vietnam war, but what country wouldnt once we had completely destroyed them and left them a smoking ruin?

Our bases in south america effectively kept them 3rd world and under the power of United Fruit co and other dictatorial corporate interests who regularly engaged in death squads and assassination in order to keep their workers in poverty and despair so we could steal their resources for many many decades. We also contribute massively to destabilizing the african continent as well, contributing greatly to desertification, poverty, and bloodshed in order to rape their resources also.

Iran was doing quite well, one of the most modern and westernized countries in the middle east prior to our overthrowing mossadegh and installing the shah.

Afghanistan was also doing well until we armed the mujahideen and trained them during our cold war with russia....now they are called the taliban.

Since venezuela has kicked us out their education and health are greatly improved due to their nationalization of their own oil profits, and poverty has been on a steady decrease.

So now we have columbia, the only country in south america that is currently inviting the US to build bases, ostensibly to fight drugs, but in reality as a staging point for the disruption of venezuela, bolivia, and all other countries that might have a succesful socialist model. Keeping in mind that columbia is the most corrupt country in the western hemisphere, and that its president alviro Uribe had close friendship ties with the most notorious drug lord of south america. If your friends define you, then that one is quite telling.

Sadly the fact of the matter is that while the US government only spends less than 1% of its budget on aid to other countries, it spends almost half its budget on waging war in them. A further telling point is that one usual stipulation of that meager amount we give in aid is that whatever countries we give foreign aid to must spend 70% of that foreign aid buying weapons from US arms manufacturers. Not exactly aid meant to foster peace and prosperity there.

You cannot confuse or mix personal and private donations with government supplied foreign aid because the discussion here is whether our troops should be in other countries or not, and the troops represent the actions of the government. Few people have problems with the american people, or doubt their generosity, they just realize that our people and our government are almost totally disconnected. This can be demonstrated by the fact that public opinion, as taken by polls regularly, is demonstrated to be almost completely ignored by congress and the government on issues such as health care reform, tort reform, war, taxes, and restrictions on freedom, upon which topics the government routinely rules almost directly in opposition of what the public majority wants, but usually right in line with corporate desires.



posted on Sep, 11 2009 @ 11:45 AM
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Amazing seems like we want to be everywhere.
But who is the we.
Sound like security for agents of corporations to find the latest
raw materials or investments for profits.
Who is in charge here.



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