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reply posted on 10-9-2009 @ 04:48 PM by ZenOnKwalsky
reply to post by LordCarpainter



Ok Jesuit Order is the source of "All Evill"... lets try this Conspiracy Theory...
But please. Give some proofs about their connecton with, for example Stalin& Hitler...


reply posted on 10-9-2009 @ 05:06 PM by LordCarpainter
Originally posted by ZenOnKwalsky
Originally posted by LordCarpainter
So are you simply saying that these CTists were evil or is it a shot at "conspiracy theories" in general? The latter is just the way it brushed me when I first saw it.

And both Hitler/Stalin were financed by Wall Street. They also both had strong connections to the Vatican. The Jihadists are controlled by the US Intelligence Community, which has strong connections to the Vatican.

First of all: What is Intelligence Community???? some kind of the international renegade spy club for the former secret agents????
A nd the most important: how it is possible that inteligence agency of rather decidedly protestant country is in connection with "the Worse enemy of the Protestants" the same or more so for really Church hating communists, trying to erase it from the worlds face
Killing the priests and the nuns and confiscating the Church proprieties, forcefully making atheists of the fidel Christians seems to "kill the bussines"????
You seem to answer by the mirroring that theory about causing the II WW, all its atrocities and Holocaust by the Zionist conspiracy
Fable try...
(about the Jihad I will not speak...too obvious)


The intelligence community is the community of the intelligence agencies -- CIA, NSA, DIA, Army Intelligence, etc.

The idea that the US is a "Protestant-controlled country" is quite wrong. Catholics have dominated the US Congress for decades. Bush had countless connections to the Vatican/Jesuits. Clinton was a graduate of the Jesuit University of DC. Bush Sr. was a Knight of Malta (Catholic military order). Reagan was also a Knight of Malta. Ford was a Knight of Malta. Eisenhower was a Knight of Malta. And Obama has plenty of Jesuit connections.


reply posted on 10-9-2009 @ 05:09 PM by LordCarpainter
Originally posted by ZenOnKwalsky
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post by LordCarpainter



Ok Jesuit Order is the source of "All Evill"... lets try this Conspiracy Theory...
But please. Give some proofs about their connecton with, for example Stalin& Hitler...


Classic debunker. Record time, too.

Stalin -- he was educated at a Jesuit seminary and some say he is a crypto-Jesuit.

Hitler -- Both of his parents were devout Catholics, he was part of a Catholic choir, he praised the Jesuits in Mein Kampf and stated that the Nazi Party was modeled after the Jesuits. He surrounded himself with Jesuit/SMOM agents (von Papen, Himmler, Goebbels, Gehlen).



reply posted on 10-9-2009 @ 05:45 PM by SassyCat
There are and were too many tyrants who exploited existing or invented new conspiracy theories. They chose to either molest their own people or people of other countries or do both, it only depends on their motive. The force and might of their actions are directly related to the spirit of their thinking or beliefs. It’s hard to know whether your own country’s leader is a bloodthirsty tyrant or not, just like it’s hard to know if your neighbour is a psychopathic murderer – I think it depends on you, your own perception, intuition, spirit and circumstances. Man is what he thinks he is, and a sin exists only if you think it does – this may be the fundamental rule of our behaviour.

I have seen myself the most common patterns of subversion by tyrants where conspiracies and ideologies are presented as truths, murders and tortures as justice, secrets and lies as a protection, madness and rage as reason, ego and ignorance as quality, hypocrisy as a myth, fear and paranoia as awareness etc. These patterns can be seen everywhere, in most developed and least developed countries of the world, only difference is who is abusing whom.

I tend to read many conspiracy theories from all over, but probably due to the sheer volume of the matter I end up only believing my own intuition. If there was only one or two theories, I’d probably blindly believe them – but I’ve seen so much of them only to conclude that I know absolutely nothing. Therefore, an astonishing number of existing conspiracies can actually be a good thing. I guess the “way out there” factor of many theories on this site caused Skyfloating to post this, but I’d better like everyone having a say than just few chosen ones having a say on some matter. Besides, many so called “uneducated posters” may realise their foolishness – we are all fools, some just realise later.

I like reading your posts very much Skyfloating, but tyrants and their ideas are much more complex than described here . Sometimes even, behind a certain tyrant is someone who you would least suspect. Also, many people overthrow tyranny only to establish their own. Their and many other conspiracy theories are hard to measure by currency of truth, as truth is only one and is only within ourselves.

You could have listed my own country here as its tyrants (far from leaders) used brutal propaganda with numerous conspiracies, including other countries we were at wars with. The cause of it is suffering and result of it is suffering, because vengeance and hate only feeds themselves. There is no one and everyone to blame.

I hope this was at least somewhat constructive to the topic .


reply posted on 10-9-2009 @ 07:08 PM by OmegaPoint
Regarding tyranny and conspiracy, I have to agree with what Charlie Sheen has to say in his interview with AJ the other day.

www.prisonplanet.com...

just click on the interview below the Youtube video, to hear it.

It's a type of mental tyranny to require that people believe in impossible things or be demonized for their views or for asking questions, questions which anyone in their right mind who's taken a look at the evidence will be asking.
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