Our Government should be random...., page 1
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reply posted on 9-9-2009 @ 11:30 PM by born2BWild
reply to post by Mak Manto



Maybe they can learn it? or maybe, just maybe they can reshape the policy for a much needed overhaul. And to the OP, I think this is a great idea yet there would still be some restrictions and limits that would have to be worked out for obvious reasons. We can't have a white supremacist up there leading out nation.


reply posted on 9-9-2009 @ 11:30 PM by PsykoOps
reply to post by harpsounds



I'd take a guy with below 60 IQ anytime before a guy who sleeps with lobbyist & big business.



reply posted on 9-9-2009 @ 11:33 PM by St Vaast
reply to post by Zenagain



Morons already hold government positions

They're THERE, making decisions that affect the lives of billions, every hour of every day

People have to get over this cringe they currently have, cringe and awe, of anyone who holds any sort of office

it's peasant-minded, it's the servility of ignorant serfs

Morons ARE running the US and governments world wide

Sooner people strip the automatic reverence from their attitudes and take an honest look at the scum at the top, the better


reply posted on 9-9-2009 @ 11:33 PM by Mak Manto
reply to post by born2BWild



Perhaps, but if we elect someone that way, by random choice, and they have no knowledge, it doesn't take a few days to get them caught up on the issues.

It takes a long time!


reply posted on 9-9-2009 @ 11:40 PM by Zenagain
reply to post by St Vaast




Which is exactly my point?

Of course there would have to be checks and balances. Anyone trying to push an agenda that was unwelcome with the majority would of course be removed and replaced. You could also level the playing field so that the minimum salary wouldn't be anything to sneeze at, but also wouldn't be a huge draw to people who "won the lottery" and got elected by a random barrel roll. Our Government/way of living is LONG past due for a change. Would you prefer it be bloodless or to be some kind of Second Civil War?

Let's say you get picked up by the Police for a murder, don't you trust your fellow citizens to set you free if you didn't do it? How often do you see people all up in arms about jury selection? You don't. Is your life worth more than other citizens? If you trust these fellow citizens with your life, why not your Government? Could they do any worse? I supported and voted for Obama but now realize that the American people didn't vote him in, the Cult of Personality did.

Do you really want Government provided by Mtv? Myspace? Facebook? God no.


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reply posted on 9-9-2009 @ 11:56 PM by John_Q_Llama
I don't know if random selection would help all that much because anyone, regardless of how they are put into a governmental position, can be bought. I hate to say it, but far too many people have a price. And that, in my opinion, is the real problem. If the majority of people weren't so bent on accumulating wealth and power, then perhaps the vicious cycle we see in our government could be broken.

Another issue that sickens me is the complete lack of accountability not just within the government, but within society as a whole. I have to admit that I can only speak for what I observe here in the United States, but I imagine that it isn't isolated to this country. Far too many politicians get away with what amounts to false advertising during their campaigns to get into office, and then once they are elected they do things that I bet the majority of their constituents would never agree with. For all of the bologna that George W. Bush did, has he been held accountable in any way? The same could be said for Cheney, Rumsfeld, Ashcroft, Bush Sr., Pelosi, and so on. The list is massive. These people cram shady legislation through for approval in ways that the full text cannot be read, and the implications cannot be completely considered. It's as if they have no foresight whatsoever. Meanwhile it's the rest of us, the voters and citizens, who wind up suffering as a result of their arrogance.

What we need are politicians who are real leaders. People who have the balls to tell the lobbies and the men/women behind the curtains to "F^#! off". People who don't look at a map and see demographics and potential votes, but rather human beings for whom they are trying to be an honest, reliable, accurate representative. People who can do the right thing. People who won't be caught up in corruption. People who can stand in front of the nation and tell the truth. I bet there isn't a single such person in the national government right now who does all of those things.

While we're at it, let's get rid of political parties. If some person wants to run for office, they can state their stance on important issues without being tossed into some stereotyped category. Left, right, who cares? Right now we're stuck with two parties that pretty much hold a monopoly (is duopoly a more suitable word?) over the federal government. The stranglehold that they have in place is such a negative influence that it makes me angry.

Ah, hell, forget it. There's too much wrong with the way things are right now. Maybe we just need to CTRL-ALT-DEL the government and start from scratch. It would be much less complicated that way.

Good times!


reply posted on 10-9-2009 @ 04:21 AM by Dynamitrios
reply to post by harpsounds



IQ means NOTHING.
Just another device of divide and conquer.
I ten times trust a low IQ factory worker (just a cliche, these are pretty smart guys), than some condenscending academic who thinks his farts dont stink, and has no connection to reality, whatsoever and only knows his charts and figures

Edit for typos

[edit on 10-9-2009 by Dynamitrios]
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