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Originally posted by Jim Scott
I find it to be an irreconcilable paradox that the illegal aliens will not be part of the equation, yet they will receive health care if needed when going to the emergency room. I don't understand. Can someone who knows the ins and outs of the health plan illuminate me? I like the universal health plan, but just wonder about this one point. Thanks for your help here.
Originally posted by Mak Manto
reply to post by jdub297
I'm against idiots not having insurance.
People get sick, and like I said, if they go to the emergency room, it's money out of our pockets...
Under the Baucus plan, insurers selling a plan costing more than $8,000 for an individual and $21,000 for a family would have to pay a 35 percent excise tax on the excess amount.
Nationwide, about one in 10 family insurance plans would be subject to the new excise tax, according to the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, a liberal-leaning policy and research group.
The tax would very likely be passed along to workers in even higher premiums than they pay now. But if insurance premiums continue to rise faster than inflation, as they have for years, many more people’s policies could end up setting off the luxury tax in coming years.
Originally posted by stevegmu
They were counting illegals in the 46-50 million estimates.
Originally posted by Night Star
Originally posted by carewemust
I wonder if it would be cheaper for a healthy 25 year old person to
pay the penalty for not having insurance, than it would be for him/her
to buy the insurance? It's these kinds of details..the dollars and cents
stuff, that people want to know.
By the time the details are ironed out in the final bill, we the public
won't have the opportunity to review it. It will be delivered to the
President for signature at lightspeed. There will be MILLIONS of
angry Americans if this happens.
My husband and I couldn't afford medical coverage at that age, then around that age he ended up in the hospital being diagnosed with diabetes. It ended up costing us thousands of dollars!!! Never think that you are healthy and do't need medical insurance. Even children have diseases, acidents and what-not. You cannot predict what may or may not happen. One accident and you could end up in the hospital for a long time and crippled. Please, take this into consideration.
Originally posted by jdub297
reply to post by Hitemhard
Maybe you heard wrong.
In any case, 2 things remain true: Obama intends to make them all legal, anyway; the numbers are only estimates, since very few of them actually checked in to be counted after they got here.
what I was trying to express with my post was, that this whole "30-50 million" thing, is exxagerated in the first place since I remember the numbers being lower in the first place. So the excuse of "well 1/3rd of the country is uninsired" is garbage since they can't even seem to agree on the numbers of even illegals. Maybe they'd have a better foothold if they showed some hard data, and not spout numbers at random as they always do.