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Originally posted by intrepid
Originally posted by jd140
Your boy Obama isn't the first President to be heckled while giving a speech.
Not "my boy" dude. I'm Canadian. Luck for you. How would you like your gov't to look like this:
That's what I'm talking about. Decorum. Has nothing to do with policy.
Originally posted by maybereal11
Hey now Intrepid...i know things can get heated...even for a mod...but lets not lump all us Americans together and dismiss us en masse....and no-one deserves the system we currently have, I wouldn't even wish it on the Canadians
Originally posted by Alien Mind
Originally posted by Pathos
Even though I am not a supporter of Obama, I found the congressmen to be unprofessional. We have to maintain a certain level of civility and respect to the presidency. It was very distasteful.
Obama is a socialist without question; however, he occupies a significant seat in our government. If we do not show that seat respect, there will be no power of influence when a respected man sits in it.
So basically your saying is that he should have just remained seated and know his place?
Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
Originally posted by Hal9000
I think Obama could have left out the divisive comments toward the right. That is not how you gain bipartisan support and I was surprised he used it.
I thought he went pretty easy on them. But he did call them out, yes. I thought it was about time.
I wondered what the "you lie" comment was actually meant to address, too. But after watching it again, I'm convinced it was the illegal immigrants thing (but you could be right that their ire started to rise with the Death Panel comment):
Agreed. There were several good ideas he got from Republicans and I hope they can all work together to get it done! We need this so badly!
Originally posted by TheTruthShallFreeYou
So BH, Intrepid, any thoughts?
This is the plan I'm proposing. It's a plan that incorporates ideas from many of the people in this room tonight – Democrats and Republicans. And I will continue to seek common ground in the weeks ahead. If you come to me with a serious set of proposals, I will be there to listen. My door is always open.
Originally posted by xmaddness
Edit for better discussions:
Do you think what Rep. Joe Wilson did was justified? Why do you think this?
I am amazed at the outburst from South Carolina Republican Rep. Joe Wilson. In a time when we need bi-partisan support from both sides, it is clear that some republicans are simply going to dig in and continue to be part of the "party of no".
What furthers my anger of such outbursts is the fact that there is no final bill drawn that would even be able to prove that this is in fact a lie. Where does he get off calling this a lie without anything to back it up? Incidents like this are exactly what is causing the propagation of propagandist mis-information in this country on this issue.
[edit on 9-9-2009 by xmaddness]
However, on the way to his office Thursday morning, Wilson said his outburst wasn't planned.
"It was spontaneous. It was when he stated, as he did, about not covering illegal aliens, when I knew we had those two amendments, and I say that respectfully," Wilson said.
He was referring to two amendments on one version of proposed health care legislation, which he said would have provided for verification of citizenship. Both of the amendments were defeated, he said.
Originally posted by Highground
Originally posted by Angus123
Whether or not it was a lie, or even a slight bending of the truth notwithstanding, the previous president was the most shameless liar ever to hold the office and nobody ever treated him with such disdain.
It was out of line, and now the whole world can see just how far the once admired United States has sunk into the mud.
What flavor is the Kool-Aid today? I've been abstaining, as I'm trying to lose weight.
You can go ahead and drink my portion.