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reply posted on 9-9-2009 @ 06:52 PM by Trams
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Well, you won't find a source that is reliable to everyone. Good luck though.


reply posted on 9-9-2009 @ 07:06 PM by nixie_nox
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You said there are several reliable sources, do you have links to them?
The stuff I am trying to not have included is a statue in Ireland that could be interpreted as anything, but people try to use it as a "prophecy".

But something more solid is fine.



reply posted on 9-9-2009 @ 07:17 PM by KSPigpen
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From an interview with Art Bell in 1997, Terrence McKenna stated:
Now, I know you have some interest in the Mayan calendar ... I didn't know when I calculated this date that it was the same end date as the Mayan calendar ... to the day ...

Here's a link to one copy of that

I learned one thing....a Google search isn't the easiest way to go with that.

Edgar Cayce did some talking about a period in time where the global consciousness shifts, but never pinpointed a date, Which is a bummer to me, because I'm a huge fan of his.

I could have sworn there were some doubts about Nostradamus having nailed down a date in THIS century for the end of the world or anything like that.
Link

'They would condemn that which future ages shall find and know to be true...(quatrains) are perpetual prophecies from this year to the year 3797, at which some perhaps will frown, seeing so large an extension of time...'


It would seem to me, that if quatrains apply to 3797, that he would be 'eliminated' from the possible sources of 'certain' 2012 predictions.

Also, Terrence McKenna USED the i-ching to arrive at his novelty theory.
I don't personally think they could be considered two distinct methods of prediction if one is derived from the other. Without Mckenna's interpretation, the i-ching is simply a tool for divination, and doesn't, in and of itself make any predictions.

Benjamin Franklin created what he called 'magic squares.' These have been dissected and added to a timeline as well, and as could be expected, also correlate precisely to 2012. (based on integers between 1 and 64, like i-ching)

I would recommend this site: www.timewave2012.com... for a good basic understanding of the FIVE different mathematical 'versions' or interpretations of the timewave. They all pretty much become infinitely small (denoting infinite novelty according to McKenna) at around the same time.

I think it would help the discussion greatly if we knew what you expected as far as the TYPE of event you are looking for the 'prediction' of.

A doomsday scenario in 2012 in not really what Terrence McKenna was proposing, and I don't think that the Mayans necessarily were either.

But yeah, the Maya and McKenna, based of course on i-ching are about the only two I know of that have some sort of documentation to support them.

What are we looking for, Nixie?


reply posted on 20-9-2009 @ 10:01 AM by Julie Washington
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First I think you should define "prediction".

Is your question - How many sources make "any kind" of prediction?
End of the world? Change on consiousness? Or just any kind of 2012 connection?

Which is actually a good question. I am actually making a list of all the possible links to any kind of 2012 connection - and there are quite a few. But it takes quite a bit of time and research and I'm not finished yet.

But make no mistake, there are serious connections across the world, civilizations, astronomy, etc. and it is an important date. We are living in exciting times!


reply posted on 29-9-2009 @ 10:36 PM by darkangle2bad
There is the Mayans Prophecy - calendar - and Astronomy. Then there is the following: Bible Prophecy Papal Prophecies Saint Malachy
Hopi Prophecy, Revelation, Joel, Daniel, Isaiah, Ezekie, Prophecies Nostradamus on World War 3, Helena Petrovna Blavatsky prophecy, Edgar Cayce prophecy, Sir Arthur Conan Doyle prophecy, Cherokee Prophecies, Mohawk Prophecy of the Seventh Generation, Deganawidah: The Two Serpents Prophecies, The Seven Fires of the Anisinabe predictions, I Ching prophecy, Inca Prophecy, Albert Einstein prophecy.
I have found over 60 different prophecies these listed above is just the start.The fact is that 2012 involves many fields of science and prophesies, spiritual, and traditions of people and much more. We do not claim to know all. 2012 is about known facts. Some are scientific facts, accepted by the scientific establishment. Other facts are simply the reported beliefs and predictions of famous people - Edgar Cayce, Nostradamus, Ramtha, Albert Einstein, and the Mayan Indians- to name a few. What they said may not be true. But it is a fact that they said it. Many great prophets have predicted extreme earth-changes and disasters to occur near the current millennium. Based on Mayan calendar prophecy and will focus on the necessity of being spiritually prepared for the great mega-changes ahead--social, political, economic, terrestrial, extra-terrestrial, galactic, and Universal...a New Era of self responsibility where we understand there are no saviors outside of us. We are here at this great moment of Transition not by accident, but by design, as we all have gifts to offer one another to ease us through as Intended and remember its up to you Draw your own conclusions.
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