reply to post by nixie_nox
From an interview with Art Bell in 1997, Terrence McKenna stated:
Now, I know you have some interest in the Mayan calendar ... I didn't know when
I calculated this date that it was the same end date as the Mayan calendar ... to the day ...
Here's a link to one copy of that
I learned one thing....a Google search isn't the easiest way to go with that.
Edgar Cayce did some talking about a period in time where the global consciousness shifts, but never pinpointed a date, Which is a bummer to me,
because I'm a huge fan of his.
I could have sworn there were some doubts about Nostradamus having nailed down a date in THIS century for the end of the world or anything like that.
Link
'They would condemn that which future ages shall find and know to be true...(quatrains) are perpetual prophecies from this year to the year 3797,
at which some perhaps will frown, seeing so large an extension of time...'
It would seem to me, that if quatrains apply to 3797, that he would be 'eliminated' from the possible sources of 'certain' 2012 predictions.
Also, Terrence McKenna USED the i-ching to arrive at his novelty theory.
I don't personally think they could be considered two distinct methods of prediction if one is derived from the other. Without Mckenna's
interpretation, the i-ching is simply a tool for divination, and doesn't, in and of itself make any predictions.
Benjamin Franklin created what he called 'magic squares.' These have been dissected and added to a timeline as well, and as could be expected, also
correlate precisely to 2012. (based on integers between 1 and 64, like i-ching)
I would recommend this site:
www.timewave2012.com... for a good basic understanding of the FIVE different mathematical 'versions' or
interpretations of the timewave. They all pretty much become infinitely small (denoting infinite novelty according to McKenna) at around the same
time.
I think it would help the discussion greatly if we knew what you expected as far as the TYPE of event you are looking for the 'prediction' of.
A doomsday scenario in 2012 in not really what Terrence McKenna was proposing, and I don't think that the Mayans necessarily were either.
But yeah, the Maya and McKenna, based of course on i-ching are about the only two I know of that have some sort of documentation to support them.
What are we looking for, Nixie?