Atlas V blasts off from the Cape with its top secret payload, page 2
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reply posted on 10-9-2009 @ 04:31 AM by Exuberant1
reply to post by zorgon



Maybe they are giving all so much false information on the thing because of what it is really going up there to do.

Perhaps it is not a surveillance craft at all, but perhaps it is going up there to perform some manufacturing operations. Or maybe its a weapon.

*Then again, this could all be to distract from another launch occurring somewhere else.

Also, in the first appearance of the god Pan, he is a guardian to a queen.


reply posted on 10-9-2009 @ 08:35 AM by pixanomaly
reply to post by mblahnikluver



Really sweet, quite fortunate that you have a front row seat :-)

Part of the reason why they try to keep it hush hush is that your average civilian can be a thorn in the side of "secret" ops.

There is an amazing article about an amateur satellite observer named Molzcan who started a whole online effort Heavens Above and made some observations as to the lengths they will go to hide things from not just the target of their efforts.

Full article here

In late 2004, a fierce closed-door debate on Capitol Hill burst into the open. Several senators announced publicly that they believed Congress was frittering away precious budget dollars on a proposed new version of Misty. At $9.5 billion, it was likely the largest item in the intelligence budget. While being careful not to mention the codename or specific nature of the project, US senator Ron Wyden (D-Oregon), described the new satellite as "unnecessary, ineffective, overbudget, and too expensive."

Part of the reason for the apparent ineffectiveness, of course, is the skill of the satellite sleuths. Even if the observers do not currently have a bead on Misty, the fact that they have seen it and continue to look for it - and have posted info on pretty much everything else - raises questions about the efficacy and expense of stealth technology in space. "It's not an encouraging data point that these dudes could find the damn thing," observes the University of Maryland's Lewis.

Not surprisingly, the intelligence community isn't happy with the amateur observers. "If we had our druthers, we would prefer that these things not end up on the Internet," says Rick Oborn, an NRO spokesperson. "It's no secret that other countries stop doing what they're doing when the satellites are overhead." Several years ago, then-senator Bob Kerrey (D-Nebraska) went a step further when he suggested that hobbyists who publish spy-sat information online are supporting terrorists.

For a short time after September 11, some hobbyists stopped posting the orbital elements for military satellites. But today the general feeling is that amateur observation is ultimately just that - something anyone could pick up. National governments could do it easily with their sophisticated radar tracking operations. Terrorists could make their own observations with a pair of binoculars and high-school math skills.




reply posted on 11-9-2009 @ 05:42 PM by jackflap
reply to post by zorgon



Thanks for creeping me out again! I saw you posted and checked it out. I just found it weird man. I mean here we are discussing this totally secret payload and then this guy registers and posts only here and tells us we have a nice forum here. His avatar says what it says. Then pixanomaly has isp problems. Creepy!
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