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Obama Open to 'Sin Tax' on Soda

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posted on Sep, 10 2009 @ 01:16 AM
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Originally posted by Asherah

Originally posted by Orion65

Originally posted by seabisquit
There should only be a tax on diet soda since it contains the poison aspartame , illegally introduced by FDA buddy of Rumsfeld in the late 1980's. Tax gum for the same reason.

Don't worry about Rummy; he's got a new gig with Tamiflu and the new vaccines.


I know, it ticks me off that I can't even buy a package of Juicy Fruit without ingesting Aspartame. And that's not even a diet gum, so WTH? It's pathetic that I have to go to the specialty store to buy gum from another country to avoid buying a gum with phenylalanine. I used to love Juicy Fruit, dang it.


Just about everything has aspartame snuck into it. Went to get some Benadryl melt away tablets for my kid and was reading the label after I got home and saw that aspartame is in it! A child's medication..... loaded with poison.


So true. I only buy organic vitamins for my kid (because they also sneak sucralose into some of the gummy non-organic vitamins), and try to buy meds in the health food section if possible. I look at labels all the time now, I never used to be as diligent about that.




posted on Sep, 10 2009 @ 01:17 AM
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The problem isn't more money, it is managing the money correctly.



posted on Sep, 10 2009 @ 01:19 AM
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This should be a job for the parents, not the government.

Cheers.



posted on Sep, 10 2009 @ 01:25 AM
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Soda is awful for you and you shouldn't do that. yeah! That's all I heard when my cigarettes got taxed. Why do people think its ok to force their beliefs on others?

What you believe is true for YOU!



posted on Sep, 10 2009 @ 01:25 AM
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If I am to pay for your health care you better take care of yourself and what you put in your body.


And it continues, because what you think is a correct life style, everyone that does not agree with you can either pay more for it or not get it at all.
I want to just scream and attack you for that statement, but I will not.

People, Kim in NORTH KOREA quit smoking and henceforth no one in NORTH KOREA is allowed to smoke. Once Barry decides to quit smoking I guess that will be the time for people here to quit smoking.

OOOOOOOHHHH conspiracy their-what if the huge raise in taxes was to get as many people here in the US to quit smoking-especially in the MILITARY possible bio part A with the other parts in other products


Anyway, as of 1 year ago I have started looking for black market sources for everything-I have been audited this year and I am going all out non-tax, cash only, barter and black market.

Our freedoms are done-and am only waiting for the rest of you to say when!
NOW...........NOW................NOW.............Dammit say WHEN!
The END IS NIGHE



posted on Sep, 10 2009 @ 01:32 AM
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true but not true at the same time.

Here in Cali we had the whole mess with balancing the budget. Liberals like me wanted to keep the social programs functioning including keeping cuts to the public education down to a minimal by raising taxes slightly on the people that earn more money than the average Joe while conservatives wanted to cut spending on social programs (including education) because allowing the taxation of their most influential constituents would have been political suicide. The problem wasn't so much balancing the budget...it was coming up with enough funds to keep California running like business as usual.

I myself was affected during high school a couple of years back when the state gov. cut funding for public schools. We had classes packed to the fullest and our school was forced to cut back on extra curricular activities which i took a part in. It was quite ironic seeing as our high school was in a relatively wealthy part of Southern cal and the parents were complaining that our school didn't have money when they weren't even willing to pay extra taxes seeing as they lived in 1-3.5 million dollar homes and made lot of money.

like i said, i like keeping social programs alive, so i'm willing to pay extra taxes so funds don't come short. That's why i don't mind that our sales' tax was raised from 7 cents a dollar to 8 cents a dollar...why i don't mind paying CRV on beverages...and why i wouldn't mind paying a 5-10% increase tax on soda.



posted on Sep, 10 2009 @ 01:36 AM
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A tax on soda with sugar is all right with me because i am a diabetic and have not drank a soda with sugar in it for years.

But if they get away with the tax on sugar in sodas what next.

A tax on the carbonation in sodas. remember the its CO2 and we must control global warming.



posted on Sep, 10 2009 @ 01:47 AM
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"Sin Tax" ?!? Since when is drinking soda or sugar drinks a sin.

Is this going hand in hand with the "Carbon Tax", "Breathing Tax", or "Flatulence Tax"?

If this is the case, I say lets also go for a "Stupidity Tax", since there seems to be a whole lot of that going around.

Hell, that would solve our deficit !!



~ Noah



posted on Sep, 10 2009 @ 01:50 AM
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I don't see the problem. Soda is basically liquid candy, and it is pretty unhealthy. It's a minuscule tax that will only bring in revenue and will hardly be noticed by the consumer. Really guys, find something else to complain about instead of this.



posted on Sep, 10 2009 @ 01:50 AM
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Calm down its a tax on soda. What are you going to bring your ARs to Obama speeches and start screaming "I want my 10 cents back!!! You are stealing from us! That 10 cents could have bought my kids 1/2 a stick of gum!!"?



posted on Sep, 10 2009 @ 02:19 AM
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i actaulyl agree with this to soem degree.
soda is terrible for your health. it sohuld only be comsumed as a last resort.,



posted on Sep, 10 2009 @ 02:47 AM
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Originally posted by noah1111

If this is the case, I say lets also go for a "Stupidity Tax", since there seems to be a whole lot of that going around.


I wonder if this would also affect the global warming.

I mean after all there is an awful lot of hot air circulating !!

And to be honest, It really doesn't bother me in the least about the tax on soda. I don't even drink the stuff, nor do I smoke.

But a penny here and a penny there, where does it end?

So it's not about me whining about 5-10 cents. It's being nickled and dimed to death that got us to this point to begin with.


It reminds me of the statement the Communist leader Nikita Kruschev stated to Ezra Taft Benson:

“Oh, you Americans! You’re so gullible! We’ll spoon feed you socialism until you’re Communists and don’t even know it. We’ll never have to fire a shot!”

They will take things so slowly we don't notice. Until later you look at the big picture and wonder " How did things get this way?"


Now if it actually helps in regards to the health care reform, then I have no problem.

But to say it's to help obesity, I'm not thinking so. The person addicted to the soda is still going to buy the soda.

It's like when I used to smoke and moved from Florida to Washington.
I went from paying $3 per pack to almost $6 per pack. And I paid it (like an idiot). But that is my point.... A habit is just that.... A habit.

But I haven't smoked in quite a while. Not because of the price (which helped) but because I wanted to live healthier.



posted on Sep, 10 2009 @ 02:48 AM
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Lol. Once we all get chipped, we'll get taxed every time we get 'intimate'. There's going to be a different rate for HOW we do it and WHAT we do... LMAO



posted on Sep, 10 2009 @ 02:53 AM
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Here in Cali we had the whole mess with balancing the budget. Liberals like me wanted to keep the social programs functioning including keeping cuts to the public education down to a minimal by raising taxes slightly on the people that earn more money than the average Joe while conservatives wanted to cut spending on social programs (including education) because allowing the taxation of their most influential constituents would have been political suicide. The problem wasn't so much balancing the budget...it was coming up with enough funds to keep California running like business as usual.


Yeah, I lived in the Valley 5 years before California imploded. Left that freak state Sept 08. How is your state doing now that they have turned the most fertile valley in the world into a dust bowl. Diverted the water for farms into the ocean to save a fracking minnow. Which was probably just a lie, to allow the government to seize farms of family businesses, so they can be bought up by big agri.

I hear from friends that some counties have unemployment rates as high as 50% now. I have checked stats just now that say 20% but I know that especially there, that stats are off at least 50%.I am sure raising some taxes on soda will turn your state around.

And how do you balance your family budget? If you do not have funds to buy that third big screen TV, do you just run in up on your 25%APR Goldman Sachs Card? When will liberals learn that you have to stop your idiocy. Illegal immigrants, welfare, and all your other social crap programs cannot be paid for by the working class. You are destroying the very fabric of our society. Russia fell, Cuba is a waste land, and we are next.

I hate to tell you folks but our country will not recover from this recession. Everything they are doing is making it worse. I predict our countries unemployment rate will be at-their number 18% come December-the real number will be 30%. By the spring looting and riots will be commonplace.

Here is the deal-back in the Great D 25% unemployment of 50 million workers equals 12.5 million unemployed. 25% unemployment today of a workforce of 200 million is "drumroll" 50 million people with another 5-10 million not employed in meaningful employment.

NOW THOSE NUMBERS ARE SCARY 50 MILLION MIGHT JUST FIT INTO THOSE FEMA CAMPS



posted on Sep, 10 2009 @ 03:28 AM
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I don't get this at all, seriously it wouldn't prevent people addicted to soda from buying it anyless so there goes the health initiative behind it.
I think instead of taxing items like soda ,candy ,miles driven in your car ,
plastic bags in grocery and convience stores he should do what should've been done long ago and that is stop allowing the incompetent spending ,
backdoor deals , earmarking and lobbying in OUR Government.

They work for us remember that it's not the other way around. So when someone who works for you is stealing , making deals behind your back , and being incompetent what do you do?

YOUR FIREDiest!!!!!
"I added a iest in there Donald so neener"



posted on Sep, 10 2009 @ 05:08 AM
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Small tax or not, you gotta look at it by how it affects a person in the long run.

A person drinking 3 cans/bottles of soda a day at 5-10 cent taxation equates to $4.562-9.125 a month or $54.75-109.5 a year.

A person drinking 6 cans/bottles of soda a day at 5-10 cent taxation eqautes to $9.125-18.25 a month or $109.5-219 a year.

I know people who drink more than 6 cans a day, also. They get exercise, some sun, they eat good meals and are fit as a whistle. If we were worried about their health, we'd have programs like 1-800-quitnow mandated down the side of every bottle. But we don't, so there isn't.

Caffeine is an addictive drug, much like tobacco, alcohol, crack and heroin. People won't stop 'abusing' it, they will just give up their pay checks.

I liked the comment about how Obama said people under $250k won't be paying any taxes. Funny, stuff - those politicians are.



posted on Sep, 10 2009 @ 05:24 AM
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remember, not long ago, we were discussing them increasing the taxes on cigarettes, to help insure the needy children??

well, you will be happy to know that now in NY a family of three making up to over $6,000/month is recieving help to insure your children....

someone needs to ask these clowns at these town hall meetings why on earth do we have people in wheelchairs struggling with paying their drugs and people with brain damage, being sent home to be cared for by unqualified spouses who have no idea what they are doing and yet....we are subsidizing the healthcare for children who's family is earning over $6,000/mo!!!

www.nyhealth.gov...

when they can give a reasonable explanation to that one, well, maybe we might consider letting them go hog wild taxing anything else!

[edit on 10-9-2009 by dawnstar]



posted on Sep, 10 2009 @ 05:30 AM
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to anyone that accepts this tax, you have not a brain or a very small one. I have seen some responses that accept the tax for whatever reason, and I just wonder why anyone would want to be taxed further than they are today.

Do you really feel the government spends your tax dollars wisely? Do they have your best interest at heart?

For those that have to think about the question, stop reading now. the answer is NO.

If they were truly concerned, they would remove the artificial sugar from soda which IS KNOWN TO CAUSE BRAIN LESIONS, TUMORS AND INCREASE WEIGHT FAR MORE THAN PROCESSED SUGAR. The natural sugar, stevia, has been in existence for centuries but big industry has yet to bring it to market. We are deprived once again on behalf of our fascist society by big business.

If Obama was a genuine and compassionate man, he would TAX THE SUGAR INDUSTRY. Yes, the sugar industry is the most vile industry and provides one of the most vile substance for consumption. IT SHOULD BE BANNED!

So for all you fools who think the tax is good, I suggest you submit yourself to Washington DC by requesting that you are open to all and any taxes they feel necessary to levy against you. YOU can pay my taxes as well since you feel it is so wonderful to hand over your hard earned money to criminals.

The country is bankrupt, its plain and simple. The reason for the tax is plain to me. It is not that they care for you (lol), its because they are desperate to grab as much money from their minions.

Everyday that goes by, I am continually amazed at the (lack of) intellect of the American people.



posted on Sep, 10 2009 @ 05:45 AM
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Originally posted by marg6043
Well taking into consideration that soda like cigarettes are life style choices that can affect health I have not problem with a sin tax.

I don't drink sodas and neither smoke cigarettes, I am all for it.




but your opinion is based on emotion ,,, and the fact you don't use these products



so,, in that case,,,,, i want a tax on all fat people,,,, i eat well and am skinny,,, yet i drink soda and smoke

but being fat is a lifestyle choice as well


so do you also agree that my fat tax is fair


how about taxes on hair dye,,,, that's a luxury, lifestyle choice,,,,, why can't people just keep their true hair color,,,, or deal with the grays we all get



of course i don't agree with any of my above statements,,,, but those stupid statements are just as relevant as this soda tax



posted on Sep, 10 2009 @ 05:48 AM
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So, now it's sinful to drink soda-pop?

These people have only two rules when it comes to taxes:
1 If it moves tax it.
2 If it doesn't move tax it.

It's not enough that BigGov has stolen our 401k retirement funds and given it free to the off shore bankers, who now offer it back to us as an interest-bearing loan?



[edit on 10-9-2009 by romanmel]



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