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Saudis to Americans: Don't event think about energy independence

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posted on Sep, 9 2009 @ 09:28 AM
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Saudis to Americans: Don't even think about energy independence


www.worldtribune.com

A top Saudi prince has advised the United States against seeking energy independence.

On Sept. 4, Saudi National Security Adviser Prince Turki Al Faisal said any U.S. campaign to become independent of Saudi Arabia and other suppliers would be harmful. The leading member of the Saudi royal family said Washington
could not break free of its dependence on Middle East crude oil. "Any future scenario will be characterized by mix of renewable and non-renewable energies whether you like it or not."
(visit the link for the full news article)



[edit on 9/9/2009 by Iamonlyhuman]




posted on Sep, 9 2009 @ 09:28 AM
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whether you like it or not


Also, from the article, the very important point:


Saudi Arabia has been the leading crude oil supplier of the United States, which is also Riyad's largest trading partner. Relations between the two countries were said to have cooled in 2009 amid the U.S. decision by President Barack Obama to launch a reconciliation dialogue with Iran, regarded as the biggest threat to Saudi Arabia.


This is a threat veiled in the truth. The prince has spoken the truth - the American military machine is powered by Saudi oil, both literally and metaphorically - the U.S. will attack Iran, whether by overt means or by way of Israel. It's just a matter of time...

www.worldtribune.com
(visit the link for the full news article)



posted on Sep, 9 2009 @ 09:38 AM
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Oh, and this news: Fighting heats up in northern Yemen: Iran-backed Shi'ites charge Saudis aiding Yemen forces. The U.S. has become like a prostitute - we will do anything to get our fix of oil. Don't believe them when they tell you we've attacked Iran because of nuclear weapons capabilities, it is always about the next fix. Our drug dealers want/need our help and we will deliver.

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posted on Sep, 9 2009 @ 09:49 AM
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So, what flag do we raise above the White House?

U.N.?
China?
Saudi?

-sigh-

-it's too early to start drinking, isn't it.-



posted on Sep, 9 2009 @ 09:49 AM
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i totally agree with you about the United States becoming a whore!!

to take it a step further one might add that the united states has become like a prositute that has too many pimps.

The only thing i can add is i feel so very sorry for the men and women that have lost there children in this great lie called freedom



posted on Sep, 9 2009 @ 09:56 AM
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I agree there has been too much mutual back scratching for the USA to turn its back on the Saudi's. They can black mail the power brokers big time. Just google Adnan Khashoggi and you will see what I mean. The even have Maurice Strong over the barrel. with the AZL connection.

Given what is already in print I wonder what other stuff is floating in the cesspools, such as Adnan Khashoggi dealings with the CIA and Khashoggi attended college in Alexandria, Egypt, with Osama Bin Laden's siblings....



Kissinger/rockefeller/Saudi Royal Family connection


Bechtel, the Rockefellers, and the Saudi royal family have long had an intimate connection. After the Saudis granted the Rockefeller dominated Aramco oil consortium the monopoly of oil in Saudi Arabia, the Rockefellers brought their pals at Bechtel in on the construction contracts. The Bechtel Corporation, of course, has also contributed George Shultz and Cap Weinberger to high office in Republican administrations. To complete the circle, KA director Simon's former boss Suliman Olayan was, in 1988, the largest shareholder in the Chase Manhattan Bank after David Rockefeller himself. www.lewrockwell.com...




The Bush family,and the Saudi royals.


The Bush family,... the Saudi royals....—and other rich and influential Saudi families [Khashoggi] were naturally drawn to one another as they share similar ideologies and goals: the “new world order” which is to be governed and controlled by a small ruling class elite, That is, the “Brotherhood”. In the 1960s, and certainly by the 1970s, they were all doing business together.

However, in the case of the Saudis, that new world order will be a world-wide Islamic state, governed according to Sunni Wahhabi interpretations of Islam (15). Although that goal is not shared by the Bush-Wall Street-corporate elite, the Bush team and the Saudis are nevertheless willing to work closely together, to increase their wealth and their power, and to combat and eliminate common enemies and competitors for world domination ...

Indeed, due in part to Saudi efforts, since the 1980s, Islam has become the fastest growing religion among Latinos in the Americas ....

Bush business partner and friend, Adnan Khashoggi, a Saudi billionaire oil and arms trader, admitted in a television-interview, that he funneled $5 million dollars to help finance arms shipments to the Contras who were terrorizing Nicaragua. In addition, the Sultan of Brunei — the richest man in the world — pitched in another $10 million. Let us recall that Saudi billionaire, Adnan Khashoggi, was providing millions of dollars to support the Contras, as was the Sultan of Brunei, and the royal family of Saudi King Fahd . brainmind.com...



posted on Sep, 9 2009 @ 09:57 AM
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So, what flag do we raise above the White House?


Why do you insinuate this is a White House issue (in effect blaming Obama) when this is clearly an issue of the military leadership being beholden to Saudis. The military has always been staunchly pro-Republican. After 9/11 the military (under the Bush admin.) bent over backwards to escort Saudis out of the country for their "protection".

This is an EXTREMELY disturbing issue, the American people must be the ones to resist this form of enslavement because our military leadership is in the back pocket of foreign interests.



posted on Sep, 9 2009 @ 09:57 AM
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and some say the suuni government are supporting the suuni pirates from the neighbouring somalia.....



posted on Sep, 9 2009 @ 10:03 AM
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Last time I checked, the president was still in charge.



posted on Sep, 9 2009 @ 10:30 AM
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Originally posted by frankensence

So, what flag do we raise above the White House?


Why do you insinuate this is a White House issue (in effect blaming Obama) when this is clearly an issue of the military leadership being beholden to Saudis. The military has always been staunchly pro-Republican. After 9/11 the military (under the Bush admin.) bent over backwards to escort Saudis out of the country for their "protection".

This is an EXTREMELY disturbing issue, the American people must be the ones to resist this form of enslavement because our military leadership is in the back pocket of foreign interests.


Hahahaaaa.... there is no resisting this. This will happen. The White House has no choice. Our military has no choice. The American people have no choice. The only choice we have in this matter is the choice of how we portray it to the American public and to the world. The outcome will be the same, no choice in that.

Please tell me what you think the American people can do to resist this. Go green? Drive smaller cars? Stop driving altogether? Do away with our military altogether? Please.




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posted on Sep, 9 2009 @ 10:39 AM
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Oh but green policies are just a hoax and just an attempt to rob taxpayers of their money.
It is not just about emissions, it is about dependance.

Not to mention the jobs and industry it will create.



posted on Sep, 9 2009 @ 10:42 AM
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So...back to the OP.

Of course the threaten us when we talk about independence.
I like the previous posts that talk trash on the US.

USA is the whore and Saudi Arabia is the pimp.

We make those saudi's sooooo much money and in turn they buy our debts. Didn't any one listen to the geneva convention? That's the point here. We, the people, would love to have our own energy dependence. Ourselves. But, we, the people, elected the corrupt officials that sold ourselves to the saudi's for cheap oil. Its been that way since the 70's. Period.




posted on Sep, 9 2009 @ 10:46 AM
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The normal American can and probably will decrease dependence on Saudi oil, however our military is completely locked in. Aviation fuel, fuel and oil for our tanks humm-v's, MRAP's, and eveery other vehicle in our inventory is locked into gasoline. However I do remember when the humm-v's first came out they were supposed to be able to use other things as fuel in the absence of gasoline. So in essence maybe we should just go ahead and paint saudi markings on our military vehicles.



posted on Sep, 9 2009 @ 11:06 AM
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How tragic but true.Without Saudi oil our military juggernaut would come to a standstill.Now we take orders from them?



posted on Sep, 9 2009 @ 11:08 AM
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Well we in Britain are now beholden to the likes of Russia, Libya and Qatar for our energy needs.

We're all screwed!



posted on Sep, 9 2009 @ 11:08 AM
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Thanks for posting this thread.

The US and Saudi Arabia have had a real cozy relationship going back almost 100 years or more. Google it! The US is going green! For the detractors....
[Get over it] For them to now come out and state this is IMO out of FEAR. They will loose their cash cow. The US has been a great Allie to them we have turned a very blind eye to what has gone on in the kingdom. Human rights? and democracy?

With the advancements in nano technology the sky is the limit.





posted on Sep, 9 2009 @ 11:21 AM
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What is Saudi Arabia afraid of, the powers here in the US are on the same page as them. They want us to remain on oil as long as possible to, so that they can control it. Its not entirely about money its also about having control. Even though the powers here in the US have not yet shut down the flow of oil to a region, they sleep easy at night knowing that they could do that if they wanted.

To them just having the potential for total control is what gets them off and makes them happy. If we are on fragmented solar and wind and Geo power, then that centralized power will be taken away from them and this like the Saudi's they do not want.

So again what was the point of the Saudi speaking like this? Was he trying to make himself look like a big man?



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posted on Sep, 9 2009 @ 11:33 AM
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This is precisely why the founding fathers cautioned against entangling allegiances which weigh us down in nonsense that had nothing to do with the welfare of the American people.

For a hundred years... imagine that... just as with the robber barons and their supra national banking cartel.... we have been so entangled with the power struggles of other nation's leaders we have a political system that can't face reality without the "good will" of foreign interests... (add 'corporate' to that to make it complete).

... like it or not.

How does that happen? By accident? or by design?

I would say that it is in our best interest to tell the oil producing interests of the world that they better get used to the idea that their time to play with the big boys is coming to and end.... whether they like it or not.

Unless of course, THEIR so-called "royal" status is supposed to MEAN something to OUR Republic.

And again.... how does that happen?

Our political machinery is a joke. THEY fostered this criminal relationship for their own greedy ambitions... and now WE THE PEOPLE get to bend over and take it...

"whether we like it or not."

I say "no." But then, I am not a representative of our people.... I wonder what THEY say?



posted on Sep, 9 2009 @ 11:40 AM
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The Saudi royal family lives in fear that the US will decide to become energy independent.

They are very concerned about hybrid and/or electric vehicles becoming a standard or required. They also are concerned about alternative fuels.

Why, because if the US tried, it could be energy independent in less than a decade. Other countries ie China and India would follow our lead.

The only income that Saudi Arabia has is it's oil. If oil loses its value, Saudi Arabia loses its only source of income. That would cause an implosion in the Kingdom.



posted on Sep, 9 2009 @ 11:45 AM
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Isn't that why they spend like half their wealth on gold? We're up to what $1K and ounce now?

This is what happens when you base the life of your nation-state on monopoly money and the monetary policies of corrupt self-serving banks. They should have known that entering into the global arena as they did.



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