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reply posted on 15-5-2004 @ 03:37 PM by foodgoddess
I saw the video and for many many minutes the man/woman in the middle read the following Arabic Statement...if it was the CIA or any American, he/she knew the Arabic Language VERY WELL.......

Translated from Arabic

Sheikh Abu Mus'ab Alzrqawy slaughters an American with his hands and threatens Bush with more

A statement to the nation

The praise of Allah for all Muslims with his support and the humiliating of those who attempt to defeat Islam and who attack it and who entice the unbelievers with their cunning.

The one that appreciated the days countries with its justice and the prayer and the greeting on from above the Islam lighthouse by its sword as for after :

The Islamic nation

You rejoice at the first signs of the dawn that have started that have granted the wind of triumph. Allah was benevolent to us in Al Fallujah, granting us victory

On one of the days of Allah and that was known to Allah alone

The Islamic nation

Does any excuse for waiting remain? How the free Muslim sleeps, with his eyelids closed.

And he sees that Islam is slaughtered and can be seen bleeding its dignity

And the shameful pictures and the news of the evil humiliation of the Islam people men and women in Ghareb 's father prison then where the jealousy and where the zeal and where the anger about the Allah's religion and where the jealousy for the Muslims sanctities and where the revenge for the honors of Muslims and Muslims is in the crosses prisons .

As for you are the Islam clerics then to Allah we complain about you, you see that Allah have founded the argument on you by the Islam young man who humiliated the strongest force in the date then broke its nose and destroyed its pride

We came to you that you learn from them the reliance meanings and derive from their doing the lessons of sacrifice and redemption to when you remain as the women you master only the slapping language and know only the way of wail and weeping

Then this appeals the world freemen and this it begs Kofi Annan and a third begs Amr Moussa and fourth he demands peaceful demonstrations and as if they did not hear to his saying ( ( O you the prophet incited the believers to the fight ) )

You were fed up with the fight of the conferences and the oratorical battles ohm came to you that you take the jihad way and carry the sword that sent by it the prophets master

And we beg from you that you do not be involved as usual in the denial of what will do it satisfaction of the Americans

He has ordered the prophet - peace be upon him - and he is master the merciful are with the slitting of the necks of some prisoners and their slow killing

And for us it is an example and a good example

As for you, the Roman dog Bush, I hope you are displeased and we wait for you with God's Help tough days and you and your soldiers today who tred Iraq's land will regret it.

And she dared in it to the Muslims fever

And another message to traitor Pervez Musharraf then we say to him that we in wait for your meeting with your soldiers

We demand of the American and will take revenge for the blood of our brothers in and Iraq and elsewhere

And as for you and the Americans soldiers wife then we say that we offered to the American administration this prisoner in exchange for some of the prisoners in Abu Ghareb prison but they refused

Then we say but if the dignity of Muslims and Muslims in Abu Ghareb prison and others is worth theur blood and souls

we tell you to know that the coffins will arrive to you one coffin after another, as your people are slaughtered in this way.........

Then you kill the polytheists where you find them and you take them and count them and place them where they can be seen.

Allah is the greatest and the honour to Allah and to its messenger and to the militants

And our last claim is that the praise of Allah is the Lord of the Worlds

Abu Mus'ab Alzrqawy
Prince of Al Tawhid group and jihad
Iraq
22 Rabi I 1425
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11/5/2004

And you see the slaughter, your fighting brothers suspend the head of this unbeliever on one of Baghdad bridges so that they teach a lesson to others from the infidels and serves as a witness to the honour of the Muslims

Source of Speech


reply posted on 16-5-2004 @ 12:11 PM by Bangin
Originally posted by Seekerof
Interesting....question:
"Roman dog ...." is refering to what specifically?
I know 'who' is mentioned in connection to this, so don't get me wrong.
But there is a meaning to be deciphered from the phrase or wording of "Roman dog...".


Good question.

Here's what I was able to find.

articles.findarticles.com... 74

"The Dogs" in Biblical Scholarship

It is sometimes suggested that "the dogs" of 22:15 is a summary term for all the practitioners that follow in the list. So Caird, "the dogs ... are here defined as those heathen who are indelibly marked with the qualities of the monster and the whore: sorcerers and fornicators" (285). It is also a shared scholarly understanding that "the dogs" is either a Jewish/Christian metaphor for the gentiles, even though it is used very rarely before the Common Era, or for those who are false teachers and heretics; and the vices that follow are seen to be descriptive of the practices of either grouping.

There is no question that when Jewish and Christian writers refer to someone or to a group of people as a "dog" or "dogs" they are being derogatory.It is generally known that Jews regarded dogs as "unclean" animals, despised because of their public habits of "mixed" copulation, urination, and defecation. As expected, dogs were banned from many sacred sites.


The article also mentions 'dogs' were regarded as purificatory animals among the Greeks and Romans. Muslims usually don't keep dogs as pets for fear of God taking away reward for his good deeds, and it is also used in a derogatory manner. "Dog" is a Jewish/Christian derogatory comment. I was unable to find anything specific to "Roman Dog".

This raises even more suspicion about the men in masks.



[Edited on 5/16/2004 by Bangin]


reply posted on 16-5-2004 @ 12:41 PM by MessedUpAnnie
It isn't even just about the chair or the outfit.

So many things are questionable including where he was, his release, the timing of it all etc.

As for the validity of the website, I don't where the original post is but you can find stuff on this
here and here

The CIA claims it examined the video and concluded that the hooded figure is Zaqrawi, a high level al-Qaeda operative. Yet this man was supposedly killed in the bombing of Falluja. Did he rise from the dead? And if he did, was his leg that he supposedly lost in 2001 get reattached? He doesn't appear handicapped in the video.

Add to this the fact of the fat guys, the gold ring, the white shoes, the lack of blood and it just all seems very strange.

Poor guy though


reply posted on 16-5-2004 @ 12:44 PM by Bangin
Edit didn't work.

This is what I found on "Roman Dog".

en.wikipedia.org...

In AD 802 Nicephorus usurped the throne of the Eastern Empire. He sent ambassadors with a letter to Harun to tell him that the tribute would no longer be paid.....

"Harun-al-Rashid, Commander of the Faithful to Nicephorus, the Roman dog: I have read thy letter. Thou shalt not hear, thou shalt see my reply."


Harun made Baghdad the most flourishing city of its time, and he referred to Nicephorus, a Byzantine Emperor, as a Roman Dog for no longer sending a tribute that was promised by Empress Irene. Its origin does appear to be Arabic.

It's an interesting story, btw.
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