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Spiritual path away from a government made lifestyle

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posted on Sep, 10 2009 @ 01:31 AM
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i am sick of society and our government to the point that if i cannot get away my only other option is death this is why i also want to live away from government and work only to survive, naturally, in the wild with nature. im on probation for possesion of marijuana and that was the last straw because smoking marijuana was the only way i could handle this slave trap that is our government. now that they have taken that from me i have absolutely no desire left to stay here, but at the same time i do not have the means to leave when all i want to do is live in peace and smoke my weed.




posted on Sep, 10 2009 @ 02:05 AM
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reply to post by malcolm420
 


I saw an interesting show once about a British guy who either couldn't afford a flat or didn't want to live that way so he bought some camping gear and took a bus out to some area that wasn't owned, per se, by anyone and just pitched camp there during the night. He'd hop the bus back in to London and work his finance job, eat at the restaurants, etc., but he actually only owned what he carried in his backpack.

Also, that way you could afford to live on a bare minimum. Get a job and ask that your pay is just under the level at which you would begin to pay taxes. No one will have any interest in you if you don't pay tax. (I understand that this may not be immediately possible while on probation, but bide your time. Work on building resolve, discipline, and gratitude. Use your anger as fuel. Turn it around to benefit you and your future freedom.)

How do they want us to live when everyone's credit ratings are destroyed because of the economy? You can't rent, you can't buy, and at least here, you can't get a job if your credit is bad. Something in our whole social ideology needs a rethink. We've painted ourselves into a corner here and the walls behind us are reinforced concrete. We're going to have to mess up that nice paint job to escape.



posted on Sep, 10 2009 @ 02:56 PM
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reply to post by CosmicEgg
 


Good words of wisdom for malcom420


EDIT: I'm actually surprised how many people want to live in the nature, but wonder how many could actually do it.

[edit on 10-9-2009 by 4stral4pprentice]



posted on Sep, 10 2009 @ 06:48 PM
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guess what i have next to me?
3 books on edible and poisonous wildlife plants!
Guess what that means?
Yup, I'm going camping with just a knife, to be one with nature once again. For fun really, talking about this topic makes me want to go out and be out there for more then 24 hours. I've never gone camping! Then how do i know i will like it so much??! Because just being out there for hours makes me feel relaxed, peaceful, carefree, and more mindful. My first time out will be for 2-3 days, It more then likely wont be for another week as i want to read the majority of these books so when im there im not completely lost when i need to read the books right there before i eat something lol. =)

One book is on edible wildlife plants in indiana, ones a basic wildlife edibles, and ones a mushrooms hunters field guide. good choices or what? actually its the best my library has lol.

p.s. who likes my writing format? x)

[edit on 10-9-2009 by 4stral4pprentice]



posted on Sep, 10 2009 @ 09:24 PM
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Good luck with it, very interested to find out what it was like, how challenging.. if you slept well, and if you were able to be meditative as well as you wanted to when you wanted to.



posted on Sep, 10 2009 @ 11:13 PM
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Well of course! I will post a new thread on my experiences after i get back. =)



posted on Sep, 11 2009 @ 12:07 AM
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Hey! Everyone! do you have experience eating raw mushrooms? when mushrooms are deemed edible does that mean raw too?



posted on Sep, 11 2009 @ 12:34 AM
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Yes, edible means raw. Or else they would have to include preparation instructions for some inedible part.

I'm pretty sure mushrooms don't have much nutrition anyway, though, so it's not like you'd be losing much by cooking it. Unless you're talking some other kind of mushroom, but you don't want to cook those.

Who has "experience" with them? HMM. What are you really asking about them?



posted on Sep, 11 2009 @ 01:52 AM
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Lol your silly, I asked for others experience because wether you know or not i posted just above that i was going camping for 3 days and i am only bringing a knife, SO! i have to find my own food! =)



posted on Sep, 11 2009 @ 02:04 AM
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Since there are so many of us, can we just start a commune, village or our own tribe, what every you want to call it already? I want out of this game!



posted on Sep, 11 2009 @ 02:16 AM
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In what region do you live?

If there are going to be many mushrooms, there is probably a much greater amount of food available as vegetation, and mushrooms are a lot harder and more dangerous to identify. Whole families have died at once from mis-identifying and eating the wrong mushrooms. There are plenty that can kill you. Also plenty that are harmless. About the only ones I will readly pluck and eat are morels. I hope you'll at least bring a field guide or have specialist knowledge with you.

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posted on Sep, 11 2009 @ 01:30 PM
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Jackson county Indiana. There were morels here but not anymore, out of season. what about you?



posted on Sep, 11 2009 @ 01:32 PM
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Well how old are you? A tribe sounds nice, I've always wanted to live like my Native American ancestors. Better survival in numbers too, or should i say easier. =)

[edit on 11-9-2009 by 4stral4pprentice]



posted on Sep, 11 2009 @ 05:39 PM
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I can completely relate to what is being said in this thread. I would love to just live in the wilderness but unfortunately I'm still in high school and have to deal with all the unnecessary stress that brings. Just earlier today I was talking with one of my friends about how the human instinct to be truly free are held down by the routine of school and nine to five jobs. It is very bizarre how people live their lives today with day to day routines... almost always in artificial environments... eating artificial foods... learning about meaningless facts and listening to propaganda news. It's not for me! I feel that at some point in the future I will be able to completely break free from the insanity.



posted on Sep, 11 2009 @ 07:58 PM
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Yeah i'm in the process of teaching myself to live out in the wild, thankfully it snows here in indiana so i will be able to hone my skills in the cold too, i will probably try traveling and just working for cheap to get only things i need. i should make it my goal to get to california so i can go to this Buddhist monastery for 6 months. =) what an accomplishment that would be! but honestly this training wont be easy for me or a thing i will learn completely in any time soon, but im prepared for that challenge.



posted on Sep, 12 2009 @ 03:37 AM
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I tried doing that a few years ago but Alberta fish and wildlife caught me fishing without a license and I was basically hauled back to the city by the RCMP.

I don't live to far away from the foothills so that will be my next destination for the rest of my days.


[edit on 9/12/2009 by Big Oil]



posted on Sep, 12 2009 @ 12:32 PM
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yeah? i dont plan on completely alienating myself from society! not because of clinging but because i choose to want to help others and make people happy. cant do too much of that in the wild, plus i want to read more books, and talk to family and friends once in awhile, make visits and what not,maybe even come back on ATS to see how you guys/girls are and tell stories , and make some money to also buy tickets so i can travel to other countires after i've learned a 2nd langauge. life sounds super exciting, talking about it like this. but then again to people clinging to society, they'd think EWWW no way! =)

I'm really thinking about making a tribe in a year or two, after ive trained myself. when i do that, if there are any of you who do want to join, i will provide you with evidence that i'm real and this movement is real, aslong as your over 18! and agree on doing this.

again for those that dont know, i will make a thread based of my 3 day camping experience, im going with my uncle possibly. he used to be in the army and has lived in the country half his life so he will be a good teacher, after he leaves i will stay a couple days longer or will come back there later for a few days, we shall see. =)



posted on Sep, 13 2009 @ 02:55 AM
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DEAR OP,

I love your post, your thoughts are the same as mine, and if my intuition is still up and running, I feel there may be many other views we have alike.

I myself agree whole heartedly to the idea, to the point im ready to go when you are.

first things first, do you want to actually LIVE with a tribe? I feel that as travellers TOGETHER, if we went to some, like, Mayan tribe, said we were here on a spiritual journey to change our ways of life, they would take us no problem.

NOW, we may be offered with some crazy cactus plants to ingest, but hey, if its natural and from the earth, trying wont kill ya!!

any ways, I would enjoy to hear your ideas and possible planning for the trial a..


EDIT- I read you live in indiana, my aunts family lives out there, and we were thinking of moving there in a year or so.

So, if your not TO hasty, this is possible. ><


[edit on 13-9-2009 by Codazzle]



posted on Sep, 13 2009 @ 04:17 AM
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Originally posted by bsbray11
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*raises hand*

Been there! Still here, actually.


Hi there. I found your post quite interesting and I have a question for you. When you're up in the mountains, it's cold, pouring down with rain, you're sat there eating a dandilion.... do you ever think to yourself? "I wish I was sat with my feet up and a nice cup of tea and a biscuit right now!


I find the lifestyle very interesting, but there must be tough times no?



posted on Sep, 13 2009 @ 04:42 AM
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reply to post by bsbray11
 


Edible does not mean raw. Some plants are inedible raw but are well-tolerated and even enjoyable when processed. By processed, I mean fried, boiled, brined, salted, macerated, roasted, etc., etc., etc.

As for mushrooms, some are inedible raw, some are edible only after processing. Some are never pleasant to eat but are in fact edible (useful in dire situations). Some will kill you, and even very quickly. Too many mushrooms look like other mushrooms so it takes a knowledgeable mushroom hunter to know the difference. It's not something you pick up too easily either so if you want to start picking mushrooms safely, go with an experience hunter. That's for a whole lot of reasons.

Once you know what you're doing, mushrooming is a wonderful form of meditation. Our relationship with the marvelous mushroom is a holistic one: mind, body, and soul.




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