Alex Jones Has Finally Lost It--His Credibility And Damaged Ours, page 5
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reply posted on 8-9-2009 @ 01:27 PM by SonicInfinity
reply to post by schrodingers dog


But is that really the case? Other than on ATS, are there other people talking about this? ATS isn't the world, so even if every single person on ATS who listens to him suddenly stopped, I don't think it would impact him too much.

Also, the question has yet to be asked: What if the rare possibility came true and Obama was interviewed? That would be interesting, to say the least.


reply posted on 8-9-2009 @ 01:29 PM by Watcher-In-The-Shadows
reply to post by tothetenthpower


Well give a huckster enough rope and eventually he will hang himself. Alex Jones proves that nicely.


reply posted on 8-9-2009 @ 01:30 PM by Allred5923
I have just been to the info wars website, first time viewer and last time as well. As for the ATS affiliation, and with the ongoing arguments of the 9/11 conspiracy being a "FACTUAL" event of the US Gov. how in the world could this propose to damage us here at the ATS forums?
He has made his first and last impression on me, I have no time for individuals of such out right elude and disrespectful acts of dis-info as has been displayed by Alex.
I have been coming to these forums with the full understanding that if I had posted something that was either falsified or out right hoaxed, my personal credibility is hence for Sh*# around here. Err go Alex's open out right act of some kind of mental breakdown for having done so.
Where the ATS family comes in is still bewildering as of right now to me, because I hold the individual responsible for such thing's, not an outside group with the interests of finding truth and perseverance to get the facts straight.
No matter how this may end up following the ATS forums, I would never get my information from a man that apparently has psychological issues such as Alex Jones.
I am an '06 member, I have came to far to think that a convoluted individual, that have never seen or website I have never visited before today will effect my over all views of these forums.
If there is more at risk than what I have seen or read thus far, please notify me why this is so incriminating for the ATS forums?


reply posted on 8-9-2009 @ 01:30 PM by Ex_MislTech
Originally posted by SkepticOverlord
Originally posted by Faiol
are u guys beeing paid to not present all the FACTS?

For nearly two hours, the interview was presented as having actually happened. The captured original page is here, which makes no mention of an "open letter." When combined with Alex's hype of a big event the previous day, the result is exceedingly disingenuous.

And even with nearly two hours of comments applauding the interview on their own site, there was no correction or apology from InfoWars.com... indicating purposeful deception.


Yeah it was a deception, but the government has done it, and AJ
stooped to their level.

The media has done it and AJ stooped to their level.

AJ just wants the key info out and he thought this was one way
to get the attention of lots of ppl around the world.

If it manages to stir up enough trouble to trigger a new investigation
then it did its job at the price of credibility.

If AJ cared what ppl thought of him, he would have quit his show
long long long ago.


reply posted on 8-9-2009 @ 01:32 PM by schrodingers dog
Originally posted by SonicInfinity
reply to post by schrodingers dog


But is that really the case? Other than on ATS, are there other people talking about this? ATS isn't the world, so even if every single person on ATS who listens to him suddenly stopped, I don't think it would impact him too much.


Well, I don't know this for sure, but it seems to me that the CT community is rather esoteric in regards to AJ. What I mean is the folks who seem the most upset are the one's who pay his bills. If after this initial fracas they and the rest of the web CT community hold this against him and tune out, it would hardly have been worth it no?

Also, the question has yet to be asked: What if the rare possibility came true and Obama was interviewed? That would be interesting, to say the least.


As per usual ... expectations are the building blocks of disappointment.

Hopefully, at least that lesson must be learned.

[edit on 8 Sep 2009 by schrodingers dog]


reply posted on 8-9-2009 @ 01:49 PM by Jakes51
Originally posted by talisman
The fact the interview was PUT UP WITHOUT A DISCLAIMER FOR OVER 9() minutes.


Now that it is fact that Mr. Jones allowed for the piece of folly to be passed off as news for 90 minutes before providing a disclaimer of the true nature of the interview; isn't that walking the line of Libel? I am familiar with Libel from a novice's standpoint, because of a Media Law class from college, but isn't this sham now a legal matter with the fact that it was passed off as news on his website which has international appeal?

See, where I see the problem, is that they provided the President's answers to Sheen's questions as if they had an actual meeting and had it published for 90 minutes without a disclaimer! Now if it were a list of Sheen's questions for the President without the mock answers by President Obama, I would see no problem, but to pass it off with answers and for a 90 minute span with out a disclaimer, that is Libel. Alex Jones ought to be slapped with a lawsuit. I understand President Obama is a public figure and is held to different standards by the media than a private citizen. But Sheen and Jones made up his answers to their questions and published it as fact for 90 minutes. It made its way to the public domain as fact and that is Libel. Here is the Supreme Court ruling on Libel:

Although libel is defined under state case law or statute, the U.S. Supreme Court has enumerated some First Amendment protections that apply to matters of public concern. In New York Times Co. v. Sullivan, the Court held that in order to recover damages a public person (as a celebrity or politician) who alleges libel (as by a newspaper) has to prove that ``the statement was made with `actual malice' -- that is, with knowledge that it was false or with reckless disregard of whether it was false or not'' in order to recover damages.


dictionary.lp.findlaw.com.../626991787281dec90623b89f93d49694

*Tried accessing the link and there appears to be a problem, just click the link and put the word "Libel." in the browser on the page to see the source. Sorry for any inconvenience.*

I think Mr Jones and Sheen, and their recent media deception, meet the aforementioned criteria quite well. What do you think?


[edit on 8-9-2009 by Jakes51]


reply posted on 8-9-2009 @ 02:10 PM by TommyG
reply to post by romanmel


Has Alex Jones ever done anything tactful and not offensive? The guy is a mad man, all I am saying is that behind all of this blunder, the real information is there for people to find out more about the events of 9/11.

I think its great that it has stirred up this much controversy and I bet he is as well. We can't let 9/11 fall asleep. That's what the problem is.

Were you this mad when the US government lied about the whole 9/11 event?
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