Alex Jones Has Finally Lost It--His Credibility And Damaged Ours, page 25

reply to post by Faiol

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Easy, logic escapes a lot of people. What you are witnessing is the typical Alternative Media pissing match. Egos colliding, insults being spewed, "this guy is a disinfo agent", this guy is a liar.

Did you know if you google "Largest Sunspot Ever", you get as one of the top three results this bogus article.
www.abovetopsecret.com...

ATS has egg all over it's face. It's been that way for awhile. A U2U was disseminated telling us to inform everyone of "the truth" concerning Alex Jones. That's the first time I've ever gotten that kind of message from the ATS staff. This whole debate is suspect to me now. I think i'm just seeing egos on display. For ATS to even whine about what Jones does while allowing obviously erroneous information to stand uncontested is nothing short of hypocrisy.

reply to post by SkepticOverlord

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Well, I've found an apology tucked in a new article discussing public and media reactions to the event.

Media & Blogosphere React To Sheen’s Request For Meeting With Obama

Separately, a few other blogs were up in arms about Sheen’s letter being a “hoax” because the disclaimer clarifying that the meeting with Obama was a stylized fictional account and not a real event did not get added to the bottom of the article until a little later due to technical snafus and a bombardment of traffic that shut down servers and locked out Infowars and Prison Planet webmasters. With the Infowars version having been copied across from Prison Planet, both original versions did not contain the disclaimer until the error was brought to our attention and promptly fixed as soon as we could gain access to servers that kept crashing, as many readers noted at the time. We added the disclaimer as soon as possible as well as other information that should have been included at the bottom of the original article regarding Sheen’s appearance on the show. We apologize for any confusion this may have caused and are trying to move our servers in house to prevent this routine occurrence from happening again.

I'll refrain from sharing my opinion on the appology here to give people a chance to freely digest the article and its contents first.

Edit: Looks like talisman beat me to it here.


[edit on 9/9/09 by redmage]

Alex Jones will lead you in the quicksand, he has done nothing but make anyone that does have credebility look like they are fools. Their was one person that called him out and showed him for what he truely is and that was William Cooper. RE: www.youtube.com...
and here is the interview with Jones and William Cooper
www.youtube.com...

www.youtube.com...


I am shocked that Restore The Republic are working with Jones, i was a member but no longer as they choose to deal with him. He will make them look like fools to and they are really tarnishing Aaron Russo's memory working with him!
We lost a great decent, moral, honest and concerened patriot, when we lost William Cooper he was a real truther exposing the real tyrrants and that is why he was murdered. Do you really think if Jones was a true threat that he'd still be around?, think about that, and dont forget he did and who knows probably still does work for the CIA get out of his web people, i know we needsomeone to believe in but it is not Jones. Research, Learn, get the word out to as many as you can we just need to stay aware of what is happening ALL of us, as we have been. Jones adds the fuel and the fire that is NOT how we want to deal with this, it wont work, keep your cool and your heads and stay AWARE get the word out!

faux news has a report on it now

Report: Charlie Sheen Seeks Meeting With Obama to Discuss 9/11 'Cover-Up'

Actor Charlie Sheen is demanding a meeting with President Obama to discuss his belief that the September 11 terror attacks were perpetrated by the federal government.

In an interview with PrisonPlanet.com, The “Two and a Half Men” star unveils a fictional 20-minute exchange he imagines having with Obama – whom he supported in the November election – during which he implores the president to get on “the right side of history.”

Sheen, 44, argues that “the official 9/11 story is a fraud” and claims the attacks served as “the pretext for the systematic dismantling of our Constitution and Bill of Rights.” Moreover, he charges that the Bush/Cheney “regime” was behind the attacks as a prelude to justify an invasion of Iraq. Sheen also insinuates that Usama bin Laden is working for the U.S. government.

RELATED: Click here to read Sheen's hypothetical sit-down with Obama at PrisonPlanet.com

Sheen, who has been an adamant “9/11 Truther” for years, demands in his imagined meeting with Obama that the president answer what he calls a “bottomless warren of unanswered questions surrounding that day and its aftermath.”

Sheen is the former husband of actress Denise Richards, who alleged that he was addicted to gambling, prescription drugs and prostitutes. While Sheen has openly discussed his previous struggles with drugs, he has denied Richards’ allegations against him. Still, Richards used his beliefs about 9/11 as proof for a judge that he was “delusional.” She later sought and received a restraining order against him.

www.foxnews.com...?test=faces

reply to post by boaby_phet

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With what is going on right now H1N1 threat of mandatory Vaccine, Quarrentine's , Martial Law, Healthcare bill important and pressing issues dont you think? Why with this going on would Jones steer us to 9/11 at this particular time? hmmm something doesnt smell right here. We will get to 9/11 I have no doubt about that, but if we give them any kind of a lead right now by not keeping our eyes on the right balls, it will be to our demise! Keep your eye on the ball (the RIGHT one) Jones is diverting us...

reply to post by spirit777child

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I am not an Alex Jones fan per say, I think he is funny and informative, and up to this stunt, not unlike Bill O'Reilly in many ways.

"How would you have galvanised the people and focus their attentions with the hope of creating a truth movement?"

Every argument has ethos, pathos, and logos in play. I have always disagreed with shouting people down, the tactics Alex Jones uses and inspires does not help anything, other than making the rhetorical tradition look like a desperate bully.


Tell the truth. Have some integrity/ethos. To pull a fast one on your own audience is pretty lame. This latest flap could have been avoided, largely, if he didn't build up the hype so much. An apology now looks like a lie, it was all orchestrated to float around for hours before the radio show, until he saw people freaking out. I saw the "catch infowars at 8am CST and listen to infowars at 11am for more information."

Basically, I am not surprised. Alex Jones has pathos that is way overzealous and too overbearing for anyone to take him seriously, which affects his ethos and logos equally so, and now you add this little stunt to the gumbo and he becomes a dishonest deceiver that raves lunacies on a street corner, instead of just a garden-variety raving lunatic....

Sad indeed for all the people who were following him this whole time thinking he was going to lead them to the promise land.

Originally posted by redmage
reply to post by SkepticOverlord

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Well, I've found an apology tucked in a new article discussing public and media reactions to the event.

Media & Blogosphere React To Sheen’s Request For Meeting With Obama

Separately, a few other blogs were up in arms about Sheen’s letter being a “hoax” because the disclaimer clarifying that the meeting with Obama was a stylized fictional account and not a real event did not get added to the bottom of the article until a little later due to technical snafus and a bombardment of traffic that shut down servers and locked out Infowars and Prison Planet webmasters. With the Infowars version having been copied across from Prison Planet, both original versions did not contain the disclaimer until the error was brought to our attention and promptly fixed as soon as we could gain access to servers that kept crashing, as many readers noted at the time. We added the disclaimer as soon as possible as well as other information that should have been included at the bottom of the original article regarding Sheen’s appearance on the show. We apologize for any confusion this may have caused and are trying to move our servers in house to prevent this routine occurrence from happening again.

I'll refrain from sharing my opinion on the appology here to give people a chance to freely digest the article and its contents first.

Edit: Looks like talisman beat me to it here.


[edit on 9/9/09 by redmage]

I'm sure the haters will let that one slip by..


It's funny seeing all the anti-AJ people come out of the woodwork, just waiting for Alex to slip.... I can't believe this thread is still going lol... What a bunch of haters.

[edit on 9-9-2009 by imitator]

reply to post by redhead57

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hmmm... maybe they needed a numbers count IDK there was and is a method to what he is doing, he is a deciever and no one should put their trust in him, he will lead you to the fire.

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