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Topic started on 8-9-2009 @ 03:37 AM by furzball
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One of the things I sure am going to do for survival purposes is have a dog. Some of you know the reasons. One major drawback is that it is a living
being that needs food. So, all I know I can give to a dog is meat. But are there other things. Stuff I can farm or pick up from nature. So on and so
forth.
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reply posted on 8-9-2009 @ 04:36 AM by The Utopian Penguin
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reply posted on 8-9-2009 @ 07:56 AM by WatchRider
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Don't forget cats too!
It'd be good to know what's good to feed them in the wild too!
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reply posted on 8-9-2009 @ 07:57 AM by Silcone Synapse
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Good thread.
My german shepard digs for earthworms(to eat),and also LOVES dandelion roots,and the young leaves.
Strange,but I think he knows whats good for him.(or hes just mad)
Broccoli and caulliflower stumps also make him drool.
I bet theres a lot of other things in nature you could add to home made dogfood.
Bits of raw veg are great and healthy.
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reply posted on 8-9-2009 @ 08:11 AM by Marrr
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Good idea for a thread. We have a substantial deer overpopulation here. This year my plan is to get 6 permits and fill them all. Fortunately, I have
two deep freezers, which one is empty. I'm looking to butcher the deer myself and save the choice cuts for my consumption and the lesser cuts I'm
going to freeze for my two bird/guard dogs as a high protein supplement to their diet. Hopefully...they won't acquire too much of a liking to deer
and attempt hunting them instead of target game.
Granted, we can't count on the electricity to power our household appliances. But since we produce our own beef, I have an investment as well as a
shtf food supply. Bought me a couple power inverters to operate the freezers if the s did htf. Rabbits would be a good source of nutrition for them
too. Unfortunately, my dogs don't like fish, or I'd be set!
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reply posted on 8-9-2009 @ 09:50 AM by furzball
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Originally posted by WatchRider
Don't forget cats too!
It'd be good to know what's good to feed them in the wild too!
Since you brought it up, just curious, are cats of any use when the SHTF?
Only other animals I can see being useful are producer animals (Chickens, Pigs,Cows,Goats,Etc). Travel animals such as horses or mules. Birds for
messenging, early warning system (yellow canaries), or hunting. All those in the trainable animal catagory. Unless you're crazy enough to try and
train a bear or lion cup to protect you or something of the sort lol.
Dang Marrr, 6 permits. Hope they don't cost much. I find it disgusting that we need that many permits, licenses, papers, and so forth to do the
basics.
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reply posted on 8-9-2009 @ 04:18 PM by reticledc
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Cats keep mice and other vermin away. Should a makeshift community form, they would almost be essential to have.
If the SHTF scenario happens and we need to abandon the cities, Where do you think all the rats are going to go?
right along with us. They follow the trash.
I would also like to pint out, that if we are really tanked, and need to get out of dodge and never go back, pets are a hindrance to travel with,
unless the afore mentioned canines are with you.
I have 4 cats, and I love them all, but if they went tsar bomba nearby, I would leave the door open. They can survive better on their own.
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reply posted on 8-9-2009 @ 04:33 PM by 21cdb
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My plan;
Dog's get to eat all the squirrels, rabbits and other such animals as they can catch.
Cat get's all the mice and birds she can get her paws on.
Hell, this is essentially their diet now.
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reply posted on 8-9-2009 @ 05:41 PM by guppy
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Great link. I'll take a look at this.
Its always nice to have a dog that can chase down rabbits. Dogs are the best companions. There's so much they can do compared to cats.
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reply posted on 8-9-2009 @ 05:45 PM by Miraj
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Mice. Cats can survive on mice, they'd need to catch them on their own though.
Let nature take over with cats.
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reply posted on 8-9-2009 @ 07:05 PM by mamabeth
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Originally posted by reticledc
reply to post by furzball
Cats keep mice and other vermin away. Should a makeshift community form, they would almost be essential to have.
If the SHTF scenario happens and we need to abandon the cities, Where do you think all the rats are going to go?
right along with us. They follow the trash.
I would also like to pint out, that if we are really tanked, and need to get out of dodge and never go back, pets are a hindrance to travel with,
unless the afore mentioned canines are with you.
I have 4 cats, and I love them all, but if they went tsar bomba nearby, I would leave the door open. They can survive better on their own.
I have 3 cats,who have spent their entire lives indoors.I have been
wondering what to do with them,they wouldn't survive on their own.
I have decided to take a chance and will take them along.I just bought
a bag for them,my version of a B.O.B. for cats.
I am packing the following...
1.Stainless steel bowls for food and water
2.Litter pans and scoop (2 pans and 1 stainless steel scoop)
3.Blankies and towels
4.A couple of toys
5.Hair brushes and combs
6.Packets of cat food
7.Pet vitamins
8.Carriers(won't fit into bags)
9.Litter(won't fit into bags)
10.Water,I saved some of the jugs their litter came in to use for this
11.Flea and tick shampoo
12.Neosporin cream for cuts,not the ointment
13.Stridex,alcohol free&sensitive skin,for feline acne
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reply posted on 8-9-2009 @ 07:15 PM by SmokeJaguar67
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Originally posted by 21cdb
My plan;
Dog's get to eat all the squirrels, rabbits and other such animals as they can catch.
Cat get's all the mice and birds she can get her paws on.
Hell, this is essentially their diet now.
A good plan, the last time I was out camping/hiking, my dog (Malemute) caught eight rabbits and countless mice in five days, three rabbits she caught
while leashed to me.
A bad tactic on the rabbits part is to think hunkering down and hiding is a good idea. My Mal is fixated with food and never passes up a meal even if
it is hiding.
She will be a great asset if TSHTF
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reply posted on 8-9-2009 @ 07:20 PM by The Utopian Penguin
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You may want to use another container for the water for your cats.
I doubt the plastic used in those jugs are food grade and may lead to leeching of chemicals into the water.
Storing Water For Emergencies
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reply posted on 8-9-2009 @ 11:08 PM by mamabeth
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reply posted on 9-9-2009 @ 12:29 AM by calstorm
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As far as diet, I know a lot of people advocate the raw food diet.
I have a cat with Cerebellar hypoplasia, a balance disorder. My cat could never survive on her own but would easy to take in a B.O. situation, and
could be very useful against snakes and rodents.
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reply posted on 9-9-2009 @ 10:50 PM by mamabeth
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One thing I forgot,one of my cats has a chip in him.I wanted to have
it removed ,the vet didn't want to remove it.Any ideas of what I can
do?
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reply posted on 9-9-2009 @ 10:54 PM by stevegmu
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Watch the end of A Boy and His Dog to get ideas...
Dogs will pretty much eat whatever you are eating. Cats are a little more picky, however. I doubt they would enjoy a MRE, or other survivalist
rations.
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reply posted on 12-9-2009 @ 07:59 PM by 4stral4pprentice
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reply to post by mamabeth
I don't mean to sound cruel but in a SHTF scenario unless your a survival extroirdinaire those cats will hinder you dramatically, may even be your
downfall if you let it. If i had the indoor type of cats you had i would use them as a food supply, it sounds mean but its survival of the fittest
when SHTF
don't take it offensively as i would probably be crying as i ate or killed them but a SHTF scenario is serious and you have to make sacrifices to
survive.
edit: im actually surprised no one else has said this to you here, ask yourself in a SHTF scenario, do YOU really think you will live with them until
their natural death when everything around you has gone to hell? I dont see it happening personally.
edit2: i mean do you really think all these supplies for them will last!?
i mean come on toys???? you cant be taking this serious. i mean really think about what your saying, litter pans? hun, i really dont think you will
have the time to be scooping up their poop out of a litter pan when your starving. you will need a reallity check when SHTF, again dont take this
offensive, it is my humble honest opinion, opinion isnt fact, you may fly through this SHTF scenario with flying colors. but i really doubt it with
this kind of thinking.
1.Stainless steel bowls for food and water
2.Litter pans and scoop (2 pans and 1 stainless steel scoop)
3.Blankies and towels
4.A couple of toys
5.Hair brushes and combs
6.Packets of cat food
7.Pet vitamins
8.Carriers(won't fit into bags)
9.Litter(won't fit into bags)
10.Water,I saved some of the jugs their litter came in to use for this
11.Flea and tick shampoo
12.Neosporin cream for cuts,not the ointment
13.Stridex,alcohol free&sensitive skin,for feline acne
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reply posted on 14-9-2009 @ 09:21 PM by The Utopian Penguin
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I know it not Natural food for our pets,but there are survival pack out there for our pets. Something to consider.
In the heat of disaster all too often the other members of our families, our pets, are often left behind or forgotten about. In addition to
survival supplies for your family, our pet's supplies should be kept up to date and easily accessible. Your pets count on you for protection and
safety don’t forget about them!
Pet Survival Kits
I found a few places so a Google search will do it nicely.
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