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I doubt it was a C-130 as that's an American plane.
Kaman HH-43 Huskie United States rescue helicopter HH-43F 8
Lockheed C-130 Hercules United States tactical airlift/transport C-130E
C-130H 5 (photo in link)
4 At least 15 C-130s still in use.
Lockheed JetStar United States VIP transport JetStar II 1
Lockheed P-3 Orion United States maritime patrol P-3F 3 Active.
Lockheed T-33 Shooting Star United States trainer T-33A 5
Originally posted by weedwhacker
reply to post by GovtFlu
As to this "example"??
Not a valid comparison. There is no similarity at all with the Twin Towers, the design and construction techniques in those buildings, compared to the apartment building in Tehran.
NOR to the speed, and weights of the airplanes.
Originally posted by Seventh
reply to post by tmayhew01
Not going to tarnish the OP`s post, but knocking off fire retardant from the steels?, you do know there was the best part of 90,000 tons of steel in those towers, the longest fires lasted 103 minutes, and they were designed for both a Jet crash and fire, a fireman managed to climb to the 88th storey in the South Tower iirc, and clearly stated `There are two isolated pockets of fire , we can knock it down with two lines`.
90,000 tones of steel weakened and 110 acres of concrete reduced to dust caused by 34-36 cubic metres of Jet Fuel, an inflammable liquid and not a high explosive, and of which a high percent exploded on impact, and in WTC2 the South Towers case most was expelled out the building as seen by x3 fireballs.
The light construction and hollow nature of the structures allowed the jet fuel to penetrate far inside the towers, igniting many large fires simultaneously over a wide area of the impacted floors. The fuel from the planes burned at most for a few minutes, but the contents of the buildings burned over the next hour or hour and a half. It has been suggested that the fires might not have been as centrally positioned, nor as intense, had traditionally heavy high-rise construction been standing in the way of the aircraft. Debris and fuel would likely have remained mostly outside the buildings or concentrated in more peripheral areas away from the building cores, which would then not have become unique failure points. In this scenario, the towers might have stood far longer, perhaps indefinitely. The fires were hot enough to weaken the columns and cause floors to sag, pulling perimeter columns inward and reducing their ability to support the mass of the building above.
In the North Tower, jet fuel ran down at least two elevator shafts to the basement, and two or more elevators plummeted to the lower levels. Fire continued to burn in the shafts, which may have helped weaken the core.
Firefighters managed to put out the fire in the building, which was damaged and charred but still standing...."
Unknown: "Anybody see the highway one car? Highway one car we need it for an escort to the hospital for a fireman"
Battalion Seven: "Battalion Seven to Ladder 15"
Ladder 15 Irons: "15 Irons."
Ladder 15: "Fifteen to 15 Roof and Irons"
Battalion Six: "Battalion Six to command post"
Battalion Seven: "Battalion Seven to Battalion Seven Alpha"
Unknown: "Freddie, come on over. Freddie, come on over by us"
Battalion Seven: "Ladder 15, we've got two isolated pockets of fire. We should be able to knock it down with two lines. Radio that, Radio that, 78th floor numerous 10-45 Code Ones"
Ladder 15: "What stair are you in Orio?"
Battalion Seven Alpha (Aide): "Seven Alpha to lobby command post"
Ladder Fifteen: "Fifteen to Battalion Seven"
Battalion Seven: "Go ahead Ladder 15."
Ladder 15: "Chief, what stair you in?"
Battalion Seven: "South stairway Adam, South Tower"
Ladder 15: "Floor 78?"
Battalion Seven: "Ten-four, we've got numerous civilians, we're gonna need two engines up here"
Ladder 15: "Alright 10-4, we're on our way"
Battalion Six: "Battalion Six to command post"
Unknown: "Battalion Six reports there's a sky lobby available on the 44th floor that will serve the floors above, do you copy that, kay"
Battalion Seven Alpha (Aide): "Seven Alpha to Lobby Command Post"
[Command Post reply not heard.]
Battalion Seven Alpha (Aide): "Chief Palmer reports on the 78th floor numerous 10-45 Code Ones, we've got isolated pockets of fire, we're gonna need at least two hand lines up there"
Battalion Seven Alpha (Aide): "Seven alpha from the Battalion Seven"
Battalion Seven: "Battalion Seven ... Ladder 15"
Ladder 15 Officer: "Fifteen"
Battalion Seven: "I'm going to need three of your firefighters out of stairweay to knock down two fires. We've got a house line stretched, if we can get some water on it and knock it down
Ladder 15: "Alright, 10-4, we're coming up ..."
Again we can debate whether the towers coming down was a huge government conspiracy... but the facts that line up are so:
I dunno, maybe there is something I am missing here or overlooking... I will be the first to eat my words, if the other theory can be properly PROVED with EVIDENCE and not speculation. Just seems like Occam's Razor is the most reasonable explanation here people.
So I just guess all of my college professors are lying to me? I am a construction management and engineering major and we cover the structural stability and why the towers come down in about every class I have
It is truley amazing how quick this turned into a 9/11 post.