Alien Finger Prints and past Lucid Dreams

So I've been sitting on this for a few weeks now, I was thinking about trying to sell distribution rights to these photographs and I still might. I mean there has never been anything like this recorded before. They are still where I found them and barring some outside intervention I will be able to show them off to anyone who has an interest.

I've also decided to add some past experiences to this thread about Lucid dreams and Grey Aliens.

I'm sure since I'm new people will be skeptical, you'll look at my photos and dismiss them as fakes. Its the way the internet is, most of the stuff claiming to be real on it is actually fake. But all I can say is this: Just for a second imagine you are a close friend or relative of mine and I am showing you something weird that I cant explain. Try to leave your disbelief at the door and see what I am trying to show you at face value. Whether you know it or not your looking at something amazing here.

Well I guess I should start explaining how I came to find these prints. I was in my bathroom one night using a piece of tissue paper to clean my nose. There are 3 light switches in my bathroom, one turns on the main light which is 2 fluorescent bulbs, the other is a small regular yellow bulb, and the third is not of consequence but its the light to my closet. Well in my haste I missed the main light switch and happened to turn on the small yellow light switch. While I was cleaning my nose I turned to the wall where my closet is and low and behold 2 hand prints stuck out clear as day against the dry wall. I immediately knew something was fishy about them. They where almost perfectly horizontal and strangest of all they where at the TOP of the opening to my closet! Now you have to understand in my closet there is the only opening to the crawl space above the house. These prints look as if someone had crawled down from it HEAD FIRST! crawled down from a 7 foot (at least) high opening in the ceiling. I suspect that whatever made the prints was crawling out because the lower hand looks to have been bearing weight since its slightly cocked downwards. Now all this is what got my started but as I looked closer I noticed some even strange features about the prints, the fingers where not in the normal human places. The pinky was on the inside of the hand and not the outside, that alone would make this pretty weird but then space between the prints also striked me as strange. I held out my hand to see how far apart they are and its clear to me that whatever made those prints had a very small shoulder width. I then looked again closely at the print and noticed that the space between the top of the small finger is alot close to the "index" finger then on a human hand this to me indicates a very small hand as well.

So without further adieu I present my photos of the prints, I'm still trying to figure out how to photograph them. I really dont want to brush them with anything till I've had someone come out and take a look at them.

Shot of both prints together


Close up of top print



Another close up of top print


Top print again (notice the markings from the palm)


Lower print


Top print


Both prints together


Like I said I'm trying to figure out a better way of photographing these prints. In person these prints stand out so well you can make out alot of small details in them

We waited for this??

i tried leaving my disbelief at the door, so i shall give you my observational point of view.

The top print seems to be from a right hand. Note the bottom digit being perhaps an index finger, having a strip where the print did not contact, much like leaving a print with a human finger, fingers have 3 pads or sections on them.

The bottom print makes me suspect it was made with gloves on, the digits seem alot fatter and no section pads from what i could see.

What are you proposing they are anyway ??

So like I said I was gonna merge another topic with this one since its of relevance. Since I was about 16 I've had lucid dream or semi lucid dream if you want to call them that. I've been completely conscious during periods of whatever you want to call it dreaming, or an alternate reality, or recovered memory. Its happened 4 times with the last 2 being the most relevant to this topic. The first one I was flung from my bed by my head against the wall. There was no pain or fear it happened very fast. afterwards I woke up fully able to remember what had happened. The second one was a dark figure gripping my ceiling like spider man, again I had no fear just amazement at what I was seeing. Same as before I awoke and remember it in full detail. The third was a grey alien... it was short maybe 3 or 4 feet tall and while it had the trade mark head its body was wrinkled. I was laying in bed and turned to face my door and there it was, standing in the door way. It moved closer to me but it did not seem to move. it would just appear closer and closer till it was right on me. I tried to get up but there was a force holding me down. I had fully intended on caving its head in for coming into my house unannounced but could barely lift my head off the bed. I then feel asleep and awoke right after or at least it seemed like it. The forth was another dark figure, I woke up to the sounds of foot steps on my roof. When someone walks on it, the sound it makes it very loud. I tried to get up and see what was on the roof but again I could not move. I struggled to get up but could not. Then the foot steps stopped and a darkened head peered down into my room. It then lowered it self down and hung from the roof almost like a monkey would. I woke right after that.


So I guess I wanted to add all this because there seems to be a connection here... I have a feeling all of these events are connected in some way.

Looks like you've never heard of Occam's Razor.

The simplest solution is often the correct one.

The prints look very human. Just because you can't imagine a way they got there doesn't make them alien. Maybe one of the construction guys who built the house had dirty hands.

If you'd spent more time here on ATS you'd know that alien abduction teams wear white gloves.

HA! Well I knew people where gonna be skeptical about these prints I believe they where made by a grey alien climbing down from the crawl space for whatever reason. Like I said you have to see them in real life to truly see the fine detail...

I thought about the possibility that these prints where just human hands but they are in a weird position that no one would normally put there hands in. Try putting your hand on the corner of a wall completely horizontally and tell me you don't have to get in a weird position to do it. They are also above my head as you can see in the photo and if you look close you will notice they are small (about the size of a 10 year olds hands) there is no way they are human hands. What you are seeing are prints from another life form.

Ill do some reference pics tomorrow... Don't give up on me just yet

Also there has never been anyone in that bathroom that has had gloves on, we've owned the house since it was build and I've lived in it for most of my life. Also there has only been a handful of times we have opened the door to the crawl space.

[edit on 7-9-2009 by MisterPbody]

the prints seem a bit too tall for a creature of 3 to 4 feet to have made them. I read your post, i guess because ive never experienced anything like this i seem skeptical. I think it would be great to experience such things. lucky for people like me that do not have these adventurous occasions, theres tv.

[edit on 7/9/2009 by scubagravy]

Like I said I will post reference pics tomorrow and work on getting more detailed photos.

Do aliens have fingerprints? How does one discriminate between alien and human fingerprints? Is there some sort of book I can download?

Just wondering...

IRM

Hi, there.

Don't know what this might be, but if you can't figure it out, I bet it is kind of creepy...

Anyhow, i digitally enhanced a couple of your pics to make them easier to see but I couldn't (wasn't allowed) to upload them. Couldn't u2u them either

If you want them, I need to send them somewhere else.

This is really fascinating and I don't usually give any alien threads
credibility. Pretty damn scary if you ask me. You should lay down some
powder in your crawlspace to record prints if something comes back.
Also you could rig up one of those hunting trailcams that use motion
sensors to take the shot. I would also keep my remington 870 right next to the bed! please post and follow ups to this as I'm truly interested. good luck.

This is a post I posted in answer to this thread
Link

I've read (somewhere) that these sleep paralysis style experiences have been reported throughout history by many cultures and are still reported today. Apparently one in five questioned worldwide have had a similar experience.

The creature that is seen depends on the culture of the dreamer. US citizens are most likely to see an alien while more superstitious cultures may see a vampire, demon or ghost.

These experiences general go the following way:

- Wake up suddenly
- Hear footsteps or movement
- See an entity of some sort.
- Possibly be partly or fully paralysed
- Feel pressure on the chest

While not fully awake or asleep, the system that prevents dreams from entering consciousness may not be working fully but the system that paralyses you whilst dreaming may still be active.

Wow Alien prints got moved out of the UFO area... that's weird, but regardless I'm still going to take some reference shots later on today. I just wanted to jump on real quick and post some more questions/ideas.

Someone mentioned Ockham's razor, but that theory would seems stretched to explain how 2 prints from 2 different hands would show the exact same shrunk index finger or missing pad (I also looked and the "midget" index print is rounded, meaning its the end of the finger)

There is also the height of the prints... I'm almost 6 feet tall and they are over my head. There would be no normal situation where these prints would have been made. Also like I said there is the size there about the length of a small child hand print.


If you have inverted photos please please upload them to photo bucket and post the links. This can only help to further the research.

I want to do some dusting but I also want to wait till someone from an organization who studies this type of stuff has come out and looked that them first hand and untouched. I cant stress enough how bad my photo's are of these prints. I also don't want to ruin them since I've never taken a print before.

[edit on 7-9-2009 by MisterPbody]

Thanks for the reply, I feel that these Dreams may well in fact been dreams. But there is the slight chance that they where more then that...

Took some reference shots with a ruler and my hand next to the prints, gotta get them off my camera. Will try to get them posted tomorrow.

Here's the new pics:

Hand next to print:


Ruler with print about 2 inches long:


Another shot of both prints:


Both prints again:


Crawl space and prints:


Yet another with crawl space in shot:


One last with crawl space in shot:


So are there any people what work full time on UFO subjects? If so send me a PM and lets talk about these prints!

Those are some dirty hands.

Not going to lie, this sort of creeps me out. Especially if it's your bedroom and you know for sure they're not YOUR hands. Whether they're alien or not, something put it's fingers on the outside of your closet.

Have you mustered up the courage to go into your crawl space and snoop around?

I'm not really scared, I'm really just curious... & I would go up into the crawl space but when I open the door dust and crap always falls out of it and gets all over you.

I say wear a mask and some goggles and go digging!

Shouldn't there have been Dust & "crap" on the floor then? If something moved the cover to your crawl space then there should be dust and "crap" on the floor.

It's Camera (Video) time, make sure you put tape on the light if it has one and hide it well.


[edit on 10-9-2009 by Bringer]

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Thats true but I dont know when those prints where made... they could be as old as the house for all I know and given that amount of time (20+ years) someone would have cleaned the floor in the closet. I'll open it up tomorrow to see how much dust comes out and if its noticeable on the floor. I'm not gonna go crawling in there since its dirty as hell but I will poke my head in... Hope the grudge dosent show up!

Oh yes and I will make a short video to see if I can get a better shot of the prints and also to see how much dust falls to the ground when I open the crawl space.