posted on Sep, 9 2009 @ 04:36 AM
I'm pretty saddened and disgusted by this thread to be honest. The majority of posters have called the OP ignorant and flung all kinds of accusations
at him, never once realising that they themselves are ignorant on so many levels.
To those of you who say the English Defence League are causing division:
Even if that's true, Fundamentalist Islam caused division long before the EDL came into existence and hardly anything has been done about it. What
have the government done to prevent segregated Muslim communities? What have the government done to prevent the plethora of ways Fundamentalist
Muslims seperate themselves from the wider community? What you do-gooders are basically saying is that everyone in a multicultural society is beyond
criticism. How do you criticise Islam without being 'divisive'? Answers on a postcard please. Do you just.... not criticise and watch the country
you once knew change beyond all recognition without lifting a finger? Should we have done that with the Nazis? Just ignored them for fear of causing
To those of you who say the English Defence League are racist:
They could not have gone to greater lengths to state that they are non-racist and non-political, and also to invite people of all racial backgrounds
to get involved. Truth is - when your long line of ancestors fought to defend a country, you're going to be more protective over it than someone who
is an immigrant or recent descendent of immigrants. Hence the vast majority of the EDL happen to be of Anglo-Saxon stock. Can they be blamed for
To those of you who say the English Defence League are being manipulated by negative media propaganda about Islam:
How ignorant are you? If you can't see that the government and media are offering special protection and immunity to Islam in this country you need
to pull your head right out of the sand. The EDL do not base their opinions on media hearsay, it is based on first-hand experiences: Extreme Muslims
protesting against returning troops, schools becoming majority Muslim, Anjem Choudry converting children in the streets without their parent's
consent, Christian graveyards being dug up to make room for Muslims, Churches being converted to Mosques, special exceptions to British animal welfare
laws in halal slaughter methods, Muslims celebrating the anniversary of 9/11, no-go neighbourhoods for non-Muslims. Who wants to tell me that all of
this is media lies? Bear in mind that much of this I have experienced first-hand myself.
To those of you who say the English Defence League are going about this in the wrong way:
How the hell else do we do it? The politicians have for decades refused to listen to people's concerns. This is why the BNP is more popular than
ever. Geert Wilders tried to criticise Islam in a peaceful, civilised manner and what happened? He was refused entry into the country. The government
have made it clear that they do not permit criticism of Islam. Taking to the streets, peacefully, is the only way we're still free to do this. People
who never asked for multiculturalism, mass-immigration and overcrowding (not saying this applies to the EDL) have no options anymore. They may not
want to, but their only option is to vote BNP. Those who don't want to vote BNP - what do they do? Multiculturalism is an ideology which seemingly is
not allowed to be challenged. Why not? Why should the British not have a say over the identity of their homeland? The EDL represents people who
specifically and exclusively got fed up with the government allowing Islam to basically do what it wants in their country, without the people's
consent. They're not violent (from most reports, any violence so far has been initiated by Muslim youth, NOT the EDL, who are then forced to act in
defence). And to whoever said there are already people working on rooting out Fundamentalist Islam - who? Who are these people and what have they
To those of you who say the English Defence League are just football hooligans:
Why would that matter? Does it automatically make them violent and uneducated? If you think so, you're more guilty than anyone of prejudice. It is
the working class areas and people who come into most contact with extreme Islam. It just so happens that working class youth are more likely to
follow football in the way 'hooligans' do.
To those of you who say England is multicultural and no-one can dictate how another cultural group acts:
So anything goes in this country now? Anything, right? Are we allowed to oppose anything at all, or do we have to just shut up in the name of
preserving 'peace' (an artificial form of 'peace' which won't last)? Remember - even if the native people of England unanimously ignore threats
from immigrant groups, there are plenty of immigrant groups who do not get along with each other. There have been inner-city riots before not even
involving the native people of Britain.
I'm sick of limp-wristed do-gooders who have swallowed all the left-wing propaganda available. I and the EDL don't care about 'left' and
'right'. This isn't about politics, it's about defending the country our forefathers died for. And they sure as hell didn't die for it to become
an Islamic state, handed over by people who seemingly couldn't give a crap about their heritage. You say Britain belongs to everyone. Does that mean
every country in the world belongs to everyone? How dull the world will be when each nation is no longer unique but just a big mish-mash of
predominantly Islamic, generic global culture.
Oh and by the way, if you can't see that the aiding of Islamification of Britain is one big conspiracy, conducted by the powers that be to destroy
tradition and cultural unity, you might want to educate yourself and open your eyes. You're being manipulated. The government are counting on our
tolerance to make their plan happen. The threat of division will be lessened once Islamic Extremism is rooted out of this country
*My views do not represent the English Defence League.