More popularity contests?
I thought that was what all of the color coded whatsits were for.
Time for an ATS Hall Of Fame?, page 1
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Topic started on 7-9-2009 @ 12:27 AM by Genfinity
Some posts are simply outstanding.
Clearly, some posts have great thought and effort put in them. Lots of stars, lots of flags, lots of replies.
Should these posts be nominated for an ATS Hall Of Fame thread?
What do you all think?
Best post
Best thread
Most flags
Most stars
Opinions?
Edit to add this example:
www.abovetopsecret.com...
[edit on 9/7/2009 by Genfinity]
Clearly, some posts have great thought and effort put in them. Lots of stars, lots of flags, lots of replies.
Should these posts be nominated for an ATS Hall Of Fame thread?
What do you all think?
Best post
Best thread
Most flags
Most stars
Opinions?
Edit to add this example:
www.abovetopsecret.com...
[edit on 9/7/2009 by Genfinity]
reply posted on 7-9-2009 @ 12:41 AM by tmayhew01
reply to post by SpiritoftheNightSky
Unfortionately this is most often the case as the more thoroughly put together threads lack little room for naysayers to debunk and propagate their own opinions. Thus leading to less posts... which leads to fewer people ever reading the thread in the first place.
Its unfortunate, but is the reality of how threads work here on ATS.
Unfortionately this is most often the case as the more thoroughly put together threads lack little room for naysayers to debunk and propagate their own opinions. Thus leading to less posts... which leads to fewer people ever reading the thread in the first place.
Its unfortunate, but is the reality of how threads work here on ATS.
reply posted on 7-9-2009 @ 12:55 AM by Evasius
There already is sort of a 'Hall of Fame.' Here are all the biggest threads and most discussed topics on ATS, however it's only tracking the past
24 months.
www.abovetopsecret.com...
If there's an all-time 'most discussed' listing, I have yet to find that link...it would be interesting to see.
www.abovetopsecret.com...
If there's an all-time 'most discussed' listing, I have yet to find that link...it would be interesting to see.
reply posted on 7-9-2009 @ 12:57 AM by JayinAR
reply to post by tmayhew01
I don't think that it is always necessarily because people can't debunk it. (although I'm sure that is part of it)...
A lot of times I think it is because there just isn't much to add.
A lot of the really good threads, written by some of the people you mentioned and others, are presented as a case review... If this is the case, and they do a really good job, what can you say other than "thanks for the info?"
Or "ditto, I agree with this guy."
I don't think that it is always necessarily because people can't debunk it. (although I'm sure that is part of it)...
A lot of times I think it is because there just isn't much to add.
A lot of the really good threads, written by some of the people you mentioned and others, are presented as a case review... If this is the case, and they do a really good job, what can you say other than "thanks for the info?"
Or "ditto, I agree with this guy."
reply posted on 6-11-2009 @ 09:35 AM by DevolutionEvolvd
Alas, but there is a hall of fame....
The ATS Book of Threads
And you can also sign up for the ATS newsletter that sends you the top flagged and discussed threads on ATS every week or so.
Hope that helps.
-Dev
The ATS Book of Threads
And you can also sign up for the ATS newsletter that sends you the top flagged and discussed threads on ATS every week or so.
Hope that helps.
-Dev
reply posted on 6-11-2009 @ 09:36 AM by knightsof0ld
reply to post by Genfinity
Why not hall of shame
the worst hoaxes
the worst posters
the worst threads
the worst conspiracy theories
could fill up books on that
the 'best' on the other hand . . .
Why not hall of shame
the worst hoaxes
the worst posters
the worst threads
the worst conspiracy theories
could fill up books on that
the 'best' on the other hand . . .
reply posted on 6-11-2009 @ 01:01 PM by jkrog08
reply to post by Evasius
True, but the majority of all those "top threads of the last 90 plus days" that have 2,3,4, or even 500 flags are EXACTLY the ones others and myself feel NOT worthy of being a "hall of fame thread" as most (not all, but most) are just real provocative, speculative (very speculative), or political.
To be frank, the best and most professional threads I have seen (and discussed with many others) fall within the 50-150 flag category. We must remember that while flags are important and do give a rough, but somewhat biased break down of important topics, members here, just like anywhere else will tend to support the more entertaining, dooms saying, fear mongering, political, some "proof" of a UFO on video (when it is NOT).
ATS members (like mainstream as a whole) tend to want the "blockbuster" type of threads, which almost always have no real substance to them and are simply entertaining or a "phase". While the REAL and LEGIT threads with a lot of research and scientific data and lay out get over looked but by the few (compared to the totality of ATS members) who really are here for more than "lunatic fringe" entertainment.
So NO, the "top threads of the past months" is NOT a good tool and is extremely flawed IMHO, and the book of threads has not been updated in ages and still suffers somewhat the same issues seen with the aforementioned top threads. In my opinion a thread with 500 flags with nothing but a youtube embed and one sentence about something provocative IS NOT CLOSE to being worthy of any hall of fame.
Any type of hall of fame (which for obvious reasons I doubt would ever be implemented) should be based upon a ratio of relevance, applause(which are what REALLY dictate a "real thread" from a "counterfeit thread" {which I can not STABD by the way}, presentation, research, it's actual effect on the real world, and if it has a decent chance of being true, rather than lunatic speculation.) Replies mean NOTHING, and should not count, or if they do not much. I have seen threads with over 70 flags, plus 50 stars but only 2 pages of replies, all of which being "thank yous". THOSE are the perfect threads because all bases are covered, everything is in a neutral presentation, and not made in a troll-like manner or just to "start a ATS uproar."
Basically many of the threads that some would consider "hall of fame" material because they have 500 flags, 1,000 replies and the topic matter is VERY provocative ARE NOT the type of things a hall of fame is for. Those are for "Netflix" (using an analogy here
). The hall of fame threads
should be the real threads that really helped ATS become more legit, that took the author a while to make and is presented in a scientific manner.
Because many want entertainment over quality there is no good way to judge the top threads over the last few years.
Most top threads of the last months = Hollywood
All the top threads that are more important(as a whole to ATS and general USEFUL knowledge) but get overshadowed by the movie-like, entertainment
aspect= Documentary
-Now which one would most choose?
Maybe something can be worked out on day, as a type of total ATS hall of fame directory. Because the threads I talk of, the ones that get way overshadowed by the counterfeit or entertainment threads are the ones that need to be read, NOT the others IMHO. 
My .2 cents...
[edit on 11/6/2009 by jkrog08]
True, but the majority of all those "top threads of the last 90 plus days" that have 2,3,4, or even 500 flags are EXACTLY the ones others and myself feel NOT worthy of being a "hall of fame thread" as most (not all, but most) are just real provocative, speculative (very speculative), or political.
To be frank, the best and most professional threads I have seen (and discussed with many others) fall within the 50-150 flag category. We must remember that while flags are important and do give a rough, but somewhat biased break down of important topics, members here, just like anywhere else will tend to support the more entertaining, dooms saying, fear mongering, political, some "proof" of a UFO on video (when it is NOT).
ATS members (like mainstream as a whole) tend to want the "blockbuster" type of threads, which almost always have no real substance to them and are simply entertaining or a "phase". While the REAL and LEGIT threads with a lot of research and scientific data and lay out get over looked but by the few (compared to the totality of ATS members) who really are here for more than "lunatic fringe" entertainment.
So NO, the "top threads of the past months" is NOT a good tool and is extremely flawed IMHO, and the book of threads has not been updated in ages and still suffers somewhat the same issues seen with the aforementioned top threads. In my opinion a thread with 500 flags with nothing but a youtube embed and one sentence about something provocative IS NOT CLOSE to being worthy of any hall of fame.
Any type of hall of fame (which for obvious reasons I doubt would ever be implemented) should be based upon a ratio of relevance, applause(which are what REALLY dictate a "real thread" from a "counterfeit thread" {which I can not STABD by the way}, presentation, research, it's actual effect on the real world, and if it has a decent chance of being true, rather than lunatic speculation.) Replies mean NOTHING, and should not count, or if they do not much. I have seen threads with over 70 flags, plus 50 stars but only 2 pages of replies, all of which being "thank yous". THOSE are the perfect threads because all bases are covered, everything is in a neutral presentation, and not made in a troll-like manner or just to "start a ATS uproar."
Basically many of the threads that some would consider "hall of fame" material because they have 500 flags, 1,000 replies and the topic matter is VERY provocative ARE NOT the type of things a hall of fame is for. Those are for "Netflix" (using an analogy here
). The hall of fame threads
should be the real threads that really helped ATS become more legit, that took the author a while to make and is presented in a scientific manner.
Because many want entertainment over quality there is no good way to judge the top threads over the last few years. -Now which one would most choose?
Maybe something can be worked out on day, as a type of total ATS hall of fame directory. Because the threads I talk of, the ones that get way overshadowed by the counterfeit or entertainment threads are the ones that need to be read, NOT the others IMHO.
My .2 cents...
[edit on 11/6/2009 by jkrog08]
