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Raped In America; What Was The Cost Last Time You Saw A Dr? Working Thread For World Health Costs.

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posted on Sep, 7 2009 @ 01:14 AM
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MM:


total cost $1200.00


Are you kidding me?
For 7 days in the hospital?
Get right out of here!!! (I'm kidding)

Ouch that had to of hurt! I wish her well!
Proof is in the (hospital) pudding! Thank you for that!

No doubt taxes will have to go up, Jay.
They gave all our money to the banks, the rich and gods of war!
Isnt that where you go to GET money? Go figure!
We cant afford a bandaid anymore unless we borrow it(with interest) from China!
THATS whats wrong with this picture!

I actually do agree Sancho, but 'free' health care would never
work in the land of the greed, home of the 'fraid. I'm afraid...
For that very reason, no profit to be made.

MM, all I can say is that is criminal what they do to a family!



[edit on 7-9-2009 by dodadoom]




posted on Sep, 7 2009 @ 01:17 AM
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I think that a National Program in America's current economy would effectively wipe out what is left of the middle class.

I know that isn't the drive of the thread, Sancho, and I apologize, but it is something that I feel needs to be put into the language.

I really feel as if other tensions would need to be released before we could begin something like this.
Yeah, we wouldn't pay a dime at the doctor, but sorry son, I can't afford for you to play Kiwanis Football this year.



posted on Sep, 7 2009 @ 01:19 AM
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My mother had surgery two months ago. Prior to that she was in and out of the hospital for weeks at at a time. They kept trying to get her infection down so they could operate. Her bills are starting to trickle in and even after the insurance paid its part, it doesn't look promising.

Add up 4 weeks in hospital, 5 emergency room visits, and one major operation. She just returned to work last week. Tonight she calls me and told me her operation opened up. Sounds like more bills to me.

When it rains, it pours.
Nothing left to do but laugh.



posted on Sep, 7 2009 @ 01:20 AM
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We still have a working class? Cool!
I thought it was the working poor and the ultra rich was all that was left!
No, seriously I agree.



posted on Sep, 7 2009 @ 01:21 AM
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Originally posted by dodadoom
MM:


total cost $1200.00


Are you kidding me?
For 7 days in the hospital?
Get right out of here!!! (I'm kidding)

Ouch that had to of hurt also!
Proof is in the (hospital) pudding! Thank you for that!

No doubt taxes will have to go up, Jay.
They gave all our money to the banks, the rich and gods of war! Go figure!
Isnt that where you go to get money?
THATS whats wrong with this picture!

I actually do agree Sancho, but 'free' health care would never
work in the land of the greed, home of the 'fraid. I'm afraid...

MM, all I can say is that is criminal what they do to a family!



[edit on 7-9-2009 by dodadoom]


What shocked me was not only the hospital stay but the fact that they screwed (literally) her leg and bolted it so well, the X ray are NASTY looking, but the amount of time and expertise...

Its amazing - her time her dealing with Kaiser SUCKED though I'll tell you what.

However they did finally REPLACE the knee for fairly cheep, to their credit...



posted on Sep, 7 2009 @ 01:22 AM
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I'm still putting stuff together for You........ I understand what Your saying, and I agree 1000%. Your mentioning the greedy nature of those in power currently. I can see that, and fully understand it.

Considering that, there really isn't a future left for the middle class; that is without standing up, and really showing the PTB We mean NO MORE.

Until then, the "all classes" are in jeopardy from the Elite.

So, I don't really have a solution for that, but I what I want to present to the US American public, or my fellow Patriots here is how badly We all are getting screwed over.



posted on Sep, 7 2009 @ 01:24 AM
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How is she healing up?
Does she have a scar, a limp? Etc?
Hope she is well and dont let her change anymore lightbulbs!
If shes like my mom she wont take no for an answer either!



posted on Sep, 7 2009 @ 01:24 AM
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Originally posted by JayinAR
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I think that a National Program in America's current economy would effectively wipe out what is left of the middle class.





You may be right, getting wiped out on a first come first serve basis might still be the only option, sadly.

Good luck ALL



posted on Sep, 7 2009 @ 01:28 AM
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I don't know where Your family is at, but for the cost of things, I totally am recommending A. south of the border, or b. north of the border for cheaper care, and of the same quality, or better.


Edit: note I am a little loopy right now...
So, anything written that is not making since, or seems "off game" just ignore


[edit on 7-9-2009 by sanchoearlyjones]



posted on Sep, 7 2009 @ 01:30 AM
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Mexico has moderate tax rates. Both the top income tax rate and the top corporate tax rate were cut to 28 percent in January 2007. A 16.5 percent flat-rate business tax (known as the IETU) replaced the asset tax as of January 2008 and now operates as an alternative to the corporate income tax for some companies. Other taxes include a value-added tax (VAT) and a property tax. In the most recent year, overall tax revenue as a percentage of GDP was 9.7 percent.



posted on Sep, 7 2009 @ 01:32 AM
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So, I don't really have a solution for that, but I what I want to present to the US American public, or my fellow Patriots here is how badly We all are getting screwed over.


We are letting ourselves get screwed. Instead of lobbying in town hall meetings against healthcare, we should be lobbying for them to compromise on healthcare.

Instead of rehatching what wasn't done in the past, we should focus on what could happen right now.

Just silly politics.



posted on Sep, 7 2009 @ 01:36 AM
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Originally posted by dodadoom
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How is she healing up?
Does she have a scar, a limp? Etc?
Hope she is well and dont let her change anymore lightbulbs!
If shes like my mom she wont take no for an answer either!



She is A WHOLE lot better, she has a gnarly scar, maybe 8 inches vertical. She looks gimpy when she walk (gimpy is her term not mine), every once in a while she gets horrible pain to the point where she breaks into a cold sweat.

The hardest part is was getting her home - they literally tied her leg to a crutch and lifted her into her seat. When I picked her up from the airport it was freaking ridiculous
if her leg was not completely horizontal she would literally scream and instantly cry.
I mean she could not even use the restroom sometimes (oh the humanity).
For the first week she was like half psycho half infant and I never heard sobbing like that in my entire life.

After two weeks it was wheel chair time... which lasted about a year, a whole new saga there...

And my dad was going on at the same time

and believe it or not my granny took to her death bed the same week my mom fell in Mexico.

I had to take care of all three, and my mom and granny it was just me 100%

DD... I have seen some real hell my man and seen things no son wants to,,, EVER!




[edit on 7-9-2009 by mental modulator]



posted on Sep, 7 2009 @ 01:37 AM
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Truly is disgusting!
I wish her the best as only I can on here.
There ought to be something we can do.
This sucks. (then you gotta pay for it somehow)
I truly hope it works out for her and your family.
As I said to MM, I think what they charge people is criminal.....
They must not have a heart at all.
Cant think of anything coy here, just disgusted....



posted on Sep, 7 2009 @ 01:43 AM
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That had to be so tough to go through.
I believe you. And you have my total concern.
That sounds really bad and I hope no one has to go through
something like that, ever.
What does not kill us, makes us stronger.
I dont know where that came from, but sometimes death does seem better.
I am glad you made it through that and your mom is better.
I know extreme pain will make a person do crazy things sometimes.
If I may say, I wish you and your family nothing but the best.
Stay away from ladders please!



[edit on 7-9-2009 by dodadoom]



posted on Sep, 7 2009 @ 01:44 AM
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Originally posted by jam321
My mother had surgery two months ago. Prior to that she was in and out of the hospital for weeks at at a time. They kept trying to get her infection down so they could operate. Her bills are starting to trickle in and even after the insurance paid its part, it doesn't look promising.

Add up 4 weeks in hospital, 5 emergency room visits, and one major operation. She just returned to work last week. Tonight she calls me and told me her operation opened up. Sounds like more bills to me.

When it rains, it pours.
Nothing left to do but laugh.


You guys will make it thru my man, I'm sorry the dominos seem to always fall in this manner.

But I agree with the last line
thats is way I am always so NOT funny,,, I try and live by it.



posted on Sep, 7 2009 @ 01:47 AM
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I gotta say that was an incredible account. I somehow got lost in the thread, and ended up really confused until reading that. My older sister is a plastic surgery freak; any ways she had a some major work done recently, and the stay in the hospital was amazing. The hands on care she said was amazing; You mentioning the fresh fruit daily reminded me of it; since the one day I visited her she had a very nice fresh foods lunch in front of her.



posted on Sep, 7 2009 @ 02:02 AM
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Originally posted by dodadoom
reply to post by mental modulator
 

I believe you. And you have my concern.
That sounds really bad and I hope no one has to go through
something like that, ever.
What does not kill us, makes us stronger.
I dont know where that came from but sometimes death does seem better.
I am glad you made it through that and your mom is alive.
I know extreme pain will make a person do crazy things sometimes.
If I may say, I wish you and your family nothing but the best.
Stay away from ladders please!



Thanks so much...

I think it really underscores something for me and I think the nation at large.

Five years ago is was just a "kid" bumping around, working and spending all my money on stupid things. Then, POOF,,, everything goes sideways - I had no clue what hit me.
I could not keep a job because I was charging diapers, giving meds and in grannies case nourishing with a turkey baster.

In this debate we are all having I often hear negative things about social system in this country. It irks me because I know a good portion of the same people calling the unemployed LAZY, Choice to work etc... simply could not endure what I endured. It just so happens that I made the way I am and I was able to see it all thru.

Funny enough is during the whole saga my life was the most impacted from a financial point, There simple was no job that would allow me the freedom to take care of my family.
However I did not seek one dime from the government, because I always thought
there are people worse off than me who need it more. Point is this whole national discussion should be about people and society, instead it is focused on control, money, taxes... My kind of story happens everyday and it will happen to some degree to everyone who are just the way I was five years ago. Unfortunately one can only read a story or there would be no question to the debate at large.



posted on Sep, 7 2009 @ 02:10 AM
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Point is this whole national discussion should be about people and society, instead it is focused on control, money, taxes...


Sad, but true.

People just don't seem to care anymore.



posted on Sep, 7 2009 @ 02:14 AM
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Talking about what is good for society is great. But when you don't have the money to put gas in your car, talk of extra taxes is sorta' scary.

It is a jumbled mess... all of it. Not just the healthcare system, but the entire economy.

I don't think you can fix one thing, especially a social program, and expect it to release tension across the board.
Sweeping reform is what is needed. Not just this one thing.



posted on Sep, 7 2009 @ 02:18 AM
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Thank you for sharing that!
I see your point. Deep stuff!
Until you go through something like that you have no idea.
The system was supposed to help people when they needed it.
It morphed into a way of life for alot of people.
They figured, why work if I don't have to.

In theory it should work for the people who need a little temporary help,
but when you have people who take advantage of it, it fails.
Like universal health care would unfortunately. IMO

Man this was hard to put into the right words!



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