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My Sunday At The Emergency Room(swine incident).

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posted on Sep, 7 2009 @ 01:15 AM
reply to post by sanchoearlyjones

lol heres another one, i get em for free in canada! ha.

posted on Sep, 7 2009 @ 04:38 AM
reply to post by gandhi
Health care is not "free" in Canada if you are a taxpayer!

posted on Sep, 7 2009 @ 05:47 AM
reply to post by sanchoearlyjones

Like I said, that was a few years ago when I did that to my hand; I'll bet anymore they'll tell'ya to take tylenol.

What's wrong with the system??? They are thieves. Everyone involved with the medical industry almost. The insurance companies, and especially the drug pushing pharmaceutical companies.

Here, I'm sitting I've looked up what I was given as part of the ER service for 54 bucks.

I've got a specialty topical creme for moderate to severe burns; enough for 10 days.

I've got a another specialty antibiotic derivative; which is used for staff infections, and is directly developed in Mexico to combat MRSA. Of course, not available in the States.

Then the last thing which was provided in the fee was the pain killers. Apparently they are a synthetic morphine based product. Again not available in the States, and let me tell ya' I don't feel any pain.

All of it, and QUICK in, and out ER visit for 54bucks

Gee........where in Mexico do you live?? I may have to move myself and my elderly mom there!!

Mom has COPD and must have 2 different meds that she takes several times daily - just to be able to breath. Anyway, she pays for medicare and AARP Prescription coverage each month so she can afford these medications.

This month she moved into another 'stage' on her AARP plan and now they will not pay 1 cent towards her meds!! They cover up to $2700 a year. Between $2700 & $5400, she is on her own. So......the breathing med that she was getting monthly for a co-pay of $38 is now $368!!!!

Needless to say, with her being on a fixed income and me only making $9/hr at work, we cannot afford to pay this every month for just 1 of the meds she is in need of!! I am disgusted with all of this!!

So, I started comparing prices on this med at online Canadian pharmacys and found the same med - in generic form - for $78.....$78!!! Even the non-generic med runs $170 - which is way less than what they want in the US FOR THE SAME DAMN MED!!!!!

I did all of this with the encouragement & assistance of her doctor who treats alot of elderly patients. She sends them all to Canada for there medicine scripts when they have similar problems with coverage. This is a disgrace, IMO and has to do with nothing other that GREED!!!

I have, also, applied at several medicine makers for assistance and more assistance from Medicare because she must have these meds! I have been told she may not qualify because she gets $1300/monthly in SS.........WHAT?!?!?!?!? May not qualify?!?!?!? Because she makes too much?!?!?!?!? OUTRAGEOUS!!! We barely make it on my pay and her monthly check as it is!!!

So..........back to Mexico - where do you live?? Seems that in order to live - somewhat comfortably - we may need to move outside of the US!!

[edit on 9/7/2009 by Champagne]

posted on Sep, 7 2009 @ 09:26 AM
This is exactly the reason why humans should not be eating bacon! If you want to do what's right get this: Health Master

Warning: For fresh fruits and vegetables only. Do not attempt to grind meat with this machine.

[edit on 9/7/2009 by Mr Knowledge]

posted on Sep, 7 2009 @ 09:28 AM
reply to post by sanchoearlyjones

Thats pretty Cheap.

I suppose the next course of action would be to file a lawsuit with company that made the stove for allowing it to get 'hot' enough to cook, then the Pan maker, for the same reason. Physical Pain due to burns received after use of negligently made product and failing to warn you properly in 12 different languages that they can get 'hot' enough to burn.

Then I would turn my attention to the maker of the Tong company for placing such a robust spring in the Tongs which caused you mental anguish and physical hunger that kept you from finishing your meals and for not warning you in 12 languages including PIG LATIN that the Tong's had a spring in them that would cause them to suddenly spring open while using them to cook!

Afterwards I would then turn my attention to the Doctors for not first Speaking your native language to you FIRST! And mocking you by further causing you Mental Anguish by accusing you of having GAS! Then for trying to poison you with Dangerous Pharmicuticals. Not treating you in a timely matter. Not Picking you up from your Home! Not playing your favorite moving in your Native Language while treating you. No offering you replacement bacon...

Im sure you can think of more things to Litigate here.

This is why our healthcare is so expensive!

posted on Sep, 7 2009 @ 09:30 AM
I don't know if anyone ,mentiom this but ice pulls heat out of burn, you must put ice on as soon as possible, it may hurt more but the benfit is less cell damage.

posted on Sep, 7 2009 @ 09:30 AM
Well Sancho now you've done it! Let the cat outta the bag, and now begins Mexico's problem with illegal American immigrants. Talk about bringin' home the bacon!

posted on Sep, 7 2009 @ 09:52 AM

Originally posted by novacs4me
reply to post by gandhi
Health care is not "free" in Canada if you are a taxpayer!

From what I have noticed, there is not much difference between the pay check I used to earn at Canadian Tire and the pay check the hubby is earning here, in the states. Give or take, I used to be deducted some 60$ per pay check while he is deducted some 50$ per pay check so tax wise, it is almost the same that is deducted between a canadian pay check and an american pay check.

No, health care is not free in canada per say for taxes pay for it but at the same time, it is not like you need to pay an extra 300$ per month to get some medical coverage that will not cost an arm and a leg.

Also, something that a lot of people seems not to understand is that the canadian free healthcare system is exclusive to each provinces as I have experienced when visiting Vancouver. I had a really bad cold and went to a clinic and I was refused treatment on the basis that they were worried that my province would not pay that clinic back for the medical service they would have provided me. Mind you, I am Canadian but considering that I didn't have a BC medical card, I was treated differently, showed the door out and told to go to the emergency where they could not refuse me treatment.

Just to say that americans pay just as much taxes as Canadians does and it still does not explain the high cost of health care in the united states.

And I am sure that Canada could have a better health care system if people did not abuse it.

posted on Sep, 7 2009 @ 10:26 AM
reply to post by miss_silver

Arcnaver has hit the nail on the head! The REAL reason health care is so expensive in the U.S. is lawsuits. But you won't hear any of the lawyers in Washington promoting tort reform!

On the other hand, we get some really bad testing here in Canada, where the folks could use the legal help!

I would like to see the abuse stop, such as people using ambulances as taxis, but some folks just don't give a darn that this behavior puts others at risk. And even with the new charges for the use of an ambulance in New Brunswick, the people who are most likely to use one inappropriately don't have to pay the fee, because they are poor.

posted on Sep, 7 2009 @ 10:44 AM
maybe you should change the title of the thread, it implies you went to the hospital for something swine-flu related, whereas this has nothing to do with swine you simply had an unfortunate cooking accident.

[edit on 9/7/2009 by porky1981]

posted on Sep, 7 2009 @ 11:09 AM
Now if you were a vegetarian, you may not have gone through this. Don't eat bacon

Also, I'm glad to hear you're ok though. Enjoy those drugs!!!!

posted on Sep, 7 2009 @ 11:18 AM

Originally posted by marg6043
reply to post by sanchoearlyjones

Big pharma is also another problem, while they get American tax payer money for developing and testing drugs they come around and screw the tax payer with medications that are to expensive for many unless they are under the corrupted insurance companies.

That is why I will like a health care reform that will force insurance and big pharma to be regulated.

Competition means lower fees.

But in the US our government is run and owned by big corporations, congress are nothing but whores waiting for to cater to the pimps lobbyist.

In the U.S. competition means price fixing, and that's exactly what the pharma companies, hospitals, and insurance companies do.

posted on Sep, 7 2009 @ 11:20 AM
I had a similar experience this week (in the Netherlands though) - 3 weeks ago I had an appendicitis with an acute perforation, which caused me to place an emergency call. I know ambulances can be very busy.. still, I think they are exaggerating just a little bit with the bill. Driving me to the hospital took them 5 minutes without sirenes; the distance is no more than 5 miles (5.6 kilometers). I had to wait for 25 minutes for the ambulance to arrive.

They charged 650 euros / 930 dollar for that ride.

posted on Sep, 7 2009 @ 11:25 AM
reply to post by porky1981

Not too quick on the uptake, eh? Bacon comes from swine, it was a clever title.

Hope the belly heals up sancho, thanks for bragging about how easy it is to get medical attention there, lol. Here, the reason it takes so long to get into the ER is because they are doing a credit and background check to make sure they want to even waste their valuable time with you. It's not just the insurance companies and the lawyers to blame, the providers here are greedy as well. Like somebody before said, 54 bucks would barely cover the gauze.

posted on Sep, 7 2009 @ 11:27 AM
Yeah I bet your happy that it was cheap compared to ours. They being Mexicans are the reason why our hospital visit here are so much. They come here and get free health care at our expense.

I wonder how many of the hospitals down there have MRI, CT and other life saving devices that run in the millions to outfit a modern hospital.

I am not going to sit here and claim that our system is not completely screwed up but if you remove the illegal immigrant problem, Make a law to where Walgreen's, CVS and the rest of the pharmacies can only mark up their drugs 40% instead of a thousand percent. Make health insurance companies bring down the rates to a set cap and under level that anyone with a job can afford easily. Make anyone who is on unemployment for being laid off auto insured by their now former employer and health insurer till they can find work with insurance. Make it beneficial to hire the unemployed that were laid off.

Stop sending trillions of our dollars in aid overseas, properly fund Medicare and Social Security we would not have one problem.

But instead the Socialist will have a government run system that we will pay more for in the long run and bankrupt every one of us as they march us to our graves for being a burden on the state.

Make dental insurance pay for 100 percent of what needs to be done to your teeth. These scam dental insurance policy's need to be illegal.

[edit on 7-9-2009 by Sky watcher]

posted on Sep, 7 2009 @ 05:27 PM
reply to post by sanchoearlyjones

Cuidado Sancho !

Get a $4. splatter shield... or cook it with a vented lid if you're gonna risk cooking bacon while exposed. Also, if you ever burn yourself in the future, throw a few ice cubes in a ziplock bag and immediately cold compressfor 1 hour . THis will alleviate the depth of the burn as well as minimizing the resulting injury.

Our Medical costs are so high here in the US because they are all owned by for profit corporations. People are getting very rich here in the US on peoples illnesses. The Hospitals are for profit corporations, the HMOs are too as well as the Insurance companies.
IN fact, here in the US, there currently is a shortage of General Practitioners whom are rare and difficult to locate/hire because the majority of the medical community are all specialists in order to earn more $$$ !

Thats also exactly why they''re (TPTB) so adamantly against holistic healthcare.....because there's no profit for their stockholders !

Have you seen the movie "Sicko"... it really brings all of this to light when they bring 9/11 rescuers who hadn't any corporate healthcare any longer to Cuba for FREE healthcare for treatment of their ailments no questions asked. You only need to show up with a health related problem/ailment.

posted on Sep, 7 2009 @ 06:10 PM
Ouch!! I hope you're getting naked and feeling pain free again in no time. A little lower and it could have much worse, no?

posted on Sep, 7 2009 @ 06:42 PM
Note to anyone I did not respond too, I read all, and appreciate the input.

reply to post by Champagne

I am in the Yucatan Peninsula. It is safer here than any place I've ever been in the US.........PERIOD. Most of Mexico is cleaning up, and safer than many parts of the States.

Now, You sound like Your in need. I don't know what part of the States Your in, or the time that You, or Your momma have, but I have a couple recommendations.

One is that You price out what it costs for You to fly into Cancun. It's a resort community, and the airfare is usually extremely cheap flying in there. The airport keeps dozens of People on staff who are fluent in English. Their job is to assist tourists with their needs.

Medical tourism is becoming huge for People such as Yo' Momma.

Now, she can come down here, and legally obtain 3 months worth of meds. Feel free to u2u me with a complete list, and I'll do some price checking for You.

I have done this for many relatives because the prices have usually been very cheap.

What I'm proposing is that Your Momma could actually take a vacation, and get 3 months worth of meds cheaper than the cost of a single month.

Let me know

posted on Sep, 7 2009 @ 09:54 PM
I read today in a headline that Obama's going to be giving another speach wednesday and he is going to be "powerful" and "strict". Like telling us to accept this bull in a "firm tone" is going to make us cow down.

posted on Sep, 7 2009 @ 10:50 PM

Originally posted by 27jd
reply to post by porky1981

Not too quick on the uptake, eh? Bacon comes from swine, it was a clever title.

Hope the belly heals up sancho, thanks for bragging about how easy it is to get medical attention there, lol. Here, the reason it takes so long to get into the ER is because they are doing a credit and background check to make sure they want to even waste their valuable time with you. It's not just the insurance companies and the lawyers to blame, the providers here are greedy as well. Like somebody before said, 54 bucks would barely cover the gauze.

gee... no sh*t sherlock... obviously I know he was refering to bacon, but like I said... if you haven't clicked the thread you would think it implies it has to do with swine flu... =P

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