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DIY - Long Term Food And Seed Storage




Topic started on 6-9-2009 @ 12:49 PM by The Utopian Penguin


Well I've been looking at the long term food storage dilemma for a while now.
Methods such canning,salting,drying are good but what about REALLY long term storage.

Storing Your Food Using Compressed Gas Such As Nitrogen or Argon


Here's A long term storage solution that can not only be used individually,but also as a shared cost project for your group as well.

The equipment is easy to obtain and the results are great.

Equipment needed:
Nitrogen Bottle
Pressure reducing valve and gauges
Hose
Wand (a hollow, rigid tube connected to the end of the hose which is pushed to the bottom of the bucket for the actual nitrogen purging.)
Hand held valve at the top of the wand (optional: You could use the valve on top of the bottle but this would be a real pain).
You should be able to get the majority of the equipment you need at a welding supply store.


Storing your food long term

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reply posted on 6-9-2009 @ 01:40 PM by whitewave


Great suggestion. Thanks for the link as well.

Oh and S&F.



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reply posted on 6-9-2009 @ 01:46 PM by caitlinfae


S+F from me....there is absolutely TONS of useful stuff in the link that I will be reading for ages yet. Thank you very much!

Cait xxx



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reply posted on 10-9-2009 @ 01:50 AM by The Utopian Penguin


Here's a few little articles about the viability of using nitrogen for long term seed storage taken from the same site.

Seed Viability In Long Term Food Storage

Here's another site that provides non-hybrids seed in various seed packs

Non-Hybrid Seeds (Heirloom)

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reply posted on 11-9-2009 @ 01:25 PM by The Utopian Penguin


~Long Term Food Storage Tutorial~


~The Bucket And Mylar Method~




YouTube Link



YouTube Link



YouTube Link


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reply posted on 19-9-2009 @ 06:18 AM by The Utopian Penguin


Here is some information on obtaining,setting up and using Nitrogen to store your food long term. There is also mention of using co2.

Locating a source of compressed nitrogen is probably as easy as looking in your local phone book under the headings "compressed gas suppliers", "gasses", or "welding supplies". Other sources might be automotive supply houses, university or college research departments, vo-tech schools, and medical supply houses.


NITROGEN GAS- Where & How

Just scroll up on using Dry ice.


The Bucket and Mylar Method (Oxygen Absorbers)

Here is a Picture and Text based Tutorial
The issue of “How do I store food in buckets?” seems to have a regular appearance here so I decided to document my process this last weekend. I’ll start with what you need to have on hand and various sources of for these items. Then we’ll move on to packaging and storing for the long term.


Storing Food in Buckets

The Pdf Of The Tutorial

How To Use Oxygen Absorbers Properly




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reply posted on 3-10-2009 @ 02:20 PM by The Utopian Penguin


Here is A nice link that explains the expected storage life of various foods using these methods. It's broken down into categories.
A page from Walton feeds.
Storage Life Notes About Specific Foods
If you haven't been to this site before,take A look around.

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reply posted on 9-10-2009 @ 11:42 AM by The Utopian Penguin


How To Vacuum Seal Mylar With A FoodSaver


If you ever tried to vacuum seal with Mylar,you know it can be a hassle !


YouTube Link



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I would still use buckets for extra protection.
You can still use absorbers as well.
Plus Buckets are easy to transport and put on A pallet.
...and make great gifts lol
Don't forget to label properly.

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reply posted on 18-1-2010 @ 08:20 AM by The Utopian Penguin





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reply posted on 18-1-2010 @ 04:57 PM by ImaginaryReality1984


Forget long term storage. Here is what i do every single year.

I grow crops of various kinds. I allow some of them to go to seed and i then collect the seed. The seeds are stuck in paper envelopes and kept until the next time they need planting. I have been doing this for years and every year i have plenty of good crops. Potatoes are a little more difficult and something i have not yet gotten into. Producing seed potatoes is a difficult business.

Forget saving, stick to producing new crops every year and allowing some to seed. That will give you new seed every year and if something happens then you have brand new seed to use.

As for stored food, well my family is not paranoid, my mother and father are not of the opinion that the world is about to end. We buy food in bulk simply because it is cheaper and so we have developed a simple rotation system. The new stuff goes at the back, the old stuff is used up. We have around 2 months of food saved using this method (that is if we ate normally, without rationing).

I have however added extra to their supplies. We have maybe 40 KG of brown rice (goes bad faster than white rice), tons of dried beans, a shed load of spices, dried meats and well a few other things.

I hope this was helpful in some way.



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reply posted on 18-1-2010 @ 05:02 PM by Quickfix


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A good type of food to store is Freeze Dried foods.

www.yourfoodstorage.com...

The site above provides the most bang for your buck on freeze dried foods. They also have other amazing items as well.

In the Link above you can see a 4-5 person food pack, which is what I may order.



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reply posted on 19-1-2010 @ 03:42 AM by The Utopian Penguin


Originally posted by ImaginaryReality1984
Forget long term storage. Here is what i do every single year.

I grow crops of various kinds. I allow some of them to go to seed and i then collect the seed. The seeds are stuck in paper envelopes and kept until the next time they need planting. I have been doing this for years and every year i have plenty of good crops. Potatoes are a little more difficult and something i have not yet gotten into. Producing seed potatoes is a difficult business.

Forget saving, stick to producing new crops every year and allowing some to seed. That will give you new seed every year and if something happens then you have brand new seed to use.

As for stored food, well my family is not paranoid, my mother and father are not of the opinion that the world is about to end. We buy food in bulk simply because it is cheaper and so we have developed a simple rotation system. The new stuff goes at the back, the old stuff is used up. We have around 2 months of food saved using this method (that is if we ate normally, without rationing).

I have however added extra to their supplies. We have maybe 40 KG of brown rice (goes bad faster than white rice), tons of dried beans, a shed load of spices, dried meats and well a few other things.

I hope this was helpful in some way.


I don't think you understand the value of long term storage.
It's just an aspect really but an important one as well.

The value of the rice I stored tripled in 2008 and is now it worth double what I paid for it.

I can only imagine what it will be worth in 5 more years.

We just had a poor growing year this year and Florida got hit with a cold snap.
If your yield is poor in your garden two years in a row, what happens to your seed supply ?
What if your crop's get invaded by GM's

It's still good to store some seeds as long as viability is accounted for.



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reply posted on 19-1-2010 @ 03:50 AM by The Utopian Penguin


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Your aware it says "do it yourself" in title right ?
and yes I do have some store bought freeze dried foods as well.



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