Originally posted by IX-777
TheRebel: So you are saying you think they are not going to bomb the moon, but use the moon as a sort of base to reach other heavenly bodies which they DO intend to bomb? I am not sure if I see the logic there, nor the point?

From my experience I know there are people on the Moon and Mars already (with that I do mean people as in Humans, and not "aliens" although they are not terrestrial either). This is also one of the reasons they have manipulated photos from both these locations - and why they are so interested in these two locations as well.

I also know there is a conflict going on between the people on both Earth, Moon and Mars. It seems to me the conflict is somewhat intense between Earth and Moon than Mars and Earth for some reason, this is just an observation and not something I am completely sure of, but thats my understanding of it.

The technology used for going to both Moon and Mars involves teleportation and not direct space travel as they try make us believe. The reason they do not tell the truth about this part has to do with many things, including their knowledge about the life on mentioned planets, as well as money, politics, military and other reasons.

For me the bombing of the Moon only makes sense as an act of war due to these reasons just stated, and it has absolutely nothing to do with water search as they already know there is water and where it is.

And yes I know these are rather broad claims and you are free to interpret them in any way you want and believe whatever you feel like regarding them.

-Maggador

You claim to know that there is a conflict between the people on Earth, the Moon and Mars. You claim we have used teleportation to go to Mars and the Moon (despite the fact not even NASA has claimed to have sent people to Mars). you also claim this is a very intense conflict.

You do know that what you are saying has Earth-shattering consequences if it happens to be true? you do know that the claims you are making are incredibly unbelievable, even to those of us who believe life exists in other planets?

Can you show us proof of human life in Mars and the Moon? can you show us proof and convince us that your claims are actually fact and not fiction?

Please show us how you arrived to this conclusion, and please show us evidence of your claims.

[edit on 6-9-2009 by newworld]

ziggystar60: Thanks but I already know of the "facts" regarding the mission, which only makes me more suspicious because I know that they already know about the water in the first place, and much more than the water. Think I already mentioned that in a previous post.

Trusting anything NASA tells you is about as trustworthy as trusting what any other known criminal liar is telling you, even a random person in the street - which isnt much of a trust in my opinion.

newworld: Indeed, I did already state thay my claims were bold, and that it is up to you to interpret it or believe of it anything you want.

Giving you the proof of a statement such as the one I made is as hard as it would be for you to prove something you may know but have no evidence for. Let us say you were in Iraq, and you actually saw the Weapons of Mass Destruction that were never found, how would you go about proving that you had seen it yourself? Would probably not be the most easy thing to do. Regardless of that YOU would still know it was real, that it was there, and that something should be done to stop them from using it against other countries - and still it would only be your word against anything else.

I can answer your questions though, and again you have to do whatever you want with my answers and believe as you feel.

The Truth is indeed Earth-shattering as you put it, I can do nothing but agree to that, and yes as I already mentioned I know the claims are hard to digest as "true". I can not show you any proof at the moment other than the evidence which you can find on images already out there, so I suggest you put a lot of research and study into those for starters as they reveal quite a bit if you just look.

So how did I find out about these things, and what makes me so sure that I am correct? Well to put it rather short, I have been involved with many people in the governments myself, both friends and family, and I have also experienced teleportation myself so I know first-hand that it is real and possible. In fact, the secret of teleportation goes as far back as traced history, the first account of it I am aware of relates to ancient sumerian texts - and no not any Zaccharia Sitchin translations, but completely independently done translations, and the phenomena is recorded throughout history.

Personally my involvement lead me to having to leave my country almost 5 years ago as I was harassed by governments, got false charges against me, and they were really interested in getting me shut off so to speak. That alone proves to me that other things I have not directly experienced myself but had other governmental persons tell me about most likely must be true, and one of my main contacts himself "disappeared" without any trace, rather suddenly.

That probably do sound rather cliche, but unfortunately that is the way thing happen in reality.

-Maggador

It doesn't matter if we say no or yes nasa will blow up the moon anyway. Public opinion has little effect on them.

The lunar surface is covered with billions (literally) of impact craters of the size which LCROSS will produce. A 2 ton meteor is no big deal, hundreds enter and burn up in the Earth's atmosphere each year. There is no reason to think fewer hit the Moon. There is also the fact that your typical asteroid hits the moon at a much greater speed than LCROSS will.

There is no one living on the Moon but if they were, this will be no big deal. They would see worse on a fairly regular basis.

Originally posted by IX-777
Trusting anything NASA tells you is about as trustworthy as trusting what any other known criminal liar is telling you, even a random person in the street - which isnt much of a trust in my opinion.

How did you know about this mission, through NASA or through any of the people you know/knew in governments?

Originally posted by IX-777
ziggystar60: Thanks but I already know of the "facts" regarding the mission, which only makes me more suspicious because I know that they already know about the water in the first place, and much more than the water. Think I already mentioned that in a previous post.

Trusting anything NASA tells you is about as trustworthy as trusting what any other known criminal liar is telling you, even a random person in the street - which isnt much of a trust in my opinion.

newworld: Indeed, I did already state thay my claims were bold, and that it is up to you to interpret it or believe of it anything you want.

Giving you the proof of a statement such as the one I made is as hard as it would be for you to prove something you may know but have no evidence for. Let us say you were in Iraq, and you actually saw the Weapons of Mass Destruction that were never found, how would you go about proving that you had seen it yourself? Would probably not be the most easy thing to do. Regardless of that YOU would still know it was real, that it was there, and that something should be done to stop them from using it against other countries - and still it would only be your word against anything else.

I can answer your questions though, and again you have to do whatever you want with my answers and believe as you feel.

The Truth is indeed Earth-shattering as you put it, I can do nothing but agree to that, and yes as I already mentioned I know the claims are hard to digest as "true". I can not show you any proof at the moment other than the evidence which you can find on images already out there, so I suggest you put a lot of research and study into those for starters as they reveal quite a bit if you just look.

So how did I find out about these things, and what makes me so sure that I am correct? Well to put it rather short, I have been involved with many people in the governments myself, both friends and family, and I have also experienced teleportation myself so I know first-hand that it is real and possible. In fact, the secret of teleportation goes as far back as traced history, the first account of it I am aware of relates to ancient sumerian texts - and no not any Zaccharia Sitchin translations, but completely independently done translations, and the phenomena is recorded throughout history.

Personally my involvement lead me to having to leave my country almost 5 years ago as I was harassed by governments, got false charges against me, and they were really interested in getting me shut off so to speak. That alone proves to me that other things I have not directly experienced myself but had other governmental persons tell me about most likely must be true, and one of my main contacts himself "disappeared" without any trace, rather suddenly.

That probably do sound rather cliche, but unfortunately that is the way thing happen in reality.

-Maggador

So I take it you are speaking from first-hand experience. i understand why it would be difficult to provide proof that you are not lying, it happens to anyone.

However, you DID mention that it is possible to find this information if I do the research. Will you be so kind as to provide me with a starting point? some sort of credible source like a book or a website?

It will be impossible for me to find this information, considering how much fiction is passed as truth these days. If your claims are correct, and the evidence to reach your conclusions exists, then I would like some help on where to start looking.

I want to see this information before I claim that you are delusional or that this is in fact a piece of the truth that is hidden from us. I am sure I'm not the only one who would appreciate some help on where to start looking for this information.

Silk: You are free to believe what you want and have any opinion and I respect that, but if you do not find the thread interesting no one is forcing you to read it or take part of it. Certainly I do not waste my own time commenting in threads that are of no interest to me.

Phage: Indeed there are many craters on the Moon. There are several large ones on Earth too. These are rather old craters though. When it comes to the moon most hits appear on the dark side which also functions as a protection for earth to some degree. The meteors do not burn up on the Moon before hitting as there is no atmosphere, at least none that is officially known. It is true that they burn up , depending on their size, here on Earth but that is rather irrelevant as far as the Moon goes. Regarding the size of the impact caused by the meteors that fall naturally, and the ones that will be created by the LCROSS mission is also not possible to compare with eachother, and the LCROSS is sent there on purpose to create a crater while the meteors can not be said to be sent on similar missions by purpose. Also, the LCROSS is carefully adjusted to hit specific targets while meteors hits randomly. I can only speculate in the targets calculated and the purpose of the LCROSS though as I do not know the true agenda, but I find it suspcicious considering what I DO know about those whom are sending it up there.

ArMaP: I knew about the mission first from contacts, then later on from the Media as well. For the moment I have no contacts directly involved with the LCROSS mission, but I have contacts whom have expressed their concern about this mission.

-Maggador

Its more likely they are bombing the alien moon base instead.The alien war has started.