Noticing street lights turning off, page 1
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Topic started on 5-9-2009 @ 11:45 PM by VirginiaGreen
I know this has probably been posted before in one manner or another, but I can not find a thread on this subject for the life of me. Basically what I have noticed in the past 3-4 years is an alarming frequency of street lights turning off in my vicinity. I have shrugged it off for years as just my observation of what happens all the time, but only placing importance on it when it happens near me. However, for the past year I have paid close attention, and I have not been able to observe street lights going dim or turning off on a regular basis anywhere else.
It is generally the old-school style street lights you would find in any city, the 90 degree angle at the top with a light suspended in a horizontal housing attached to an arm. What generally happens is I'll be minding my own business, walking the dog or just traveling by foot around the city and a light within a stones throw, usually within 10 feet of me will flicker a bit or just go immediately dim. It happens roughly once a night or at least every other night and it is always the ones closest to me, I've even had 2 go off that we close at nearly the same time.
My first though was that they were operated by some sort of censor that detected motion and shut off appropriately, but no, that is not the case...the only censors I've ever been aware of were for lights not on a central timer, that operated when ambient light was low. Secondly I figured all lights shut off for a time to conserve power, which is most likely true, but the random timing and frequency with which they shut off around me is beginning, or has been defying that thought. I will sometimes sit and observe street lights from a distance waiting to see if and when they turn off, but have gathered very little and no conclusive data.
Shifting to the paranormal I remember hearing about people who have had NDE's having trouble wearing watches, as they always seem to freeze or break. I am interested to hear of anyone else's experience regarding the street light phenomenon as I am assuming it's probably been stated and investigated before. I have never had an NDE, though I have had a few OBE's...not from meditation or astral projection (which I delve into quite a bit for personal health and general interest), but from being under the knife or from my past experimentation (in the literal form) with DMT. The only real traumatic health emergencies, other than lacerations, concussions and the like; I've had was mild epilepsy as a youth, from the ages of 3-8 I had a few seizures that were "growth related" and was prescribed a drug, if I remember correctly, named tegretol (closest phonetic spelling I can make). I'm just very interested after 4 years as to the nature of this phenomenon, and am in no way trying to gain attention or proclaim myself as having a unique energy or telekinetic ability. Thanks for the read and any feedback brothers and sisters!


reply posted on 6-9-2009 @ 01:21 AM by VirginiaGreen
reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler



Thanks for the input. I am well aware that it could and logically is filliment related, but like I said, it happens only when they are close to me, and not all turn back on. I'm not trying to make it seem like I can turn these lights off at will, but after 4 years of observation by a natural skeptic it really has become interesting.



reply posted on 6-9-2009 @ 01:42 AM by truthquest
Originally posted by OzWeatherman
You might find this link interesting

I dont really believe in it personally


paranormal.about.com...


That is somewhat interesting because for me its only noticed that the light goes out rather than starting out in the off position and then turning on. And I'm insulted every time! But electronics are rarely an issue with me... maybe once every couple of years something will be off. Last year at work, I walked past a computer and seem to have caused the monitor to turn on from sleep mode. I've also set off a metal detector before.


reply posted on 6-9-2009 @ 05:50 AM by SpaceGoatsFarts
A few years ago, I read a book in french by Nobel prize Georges Charpak and Henry Broch (www.amazon.fr...) about such kind of "synchronicities" seemingly "unexplained" events. There were easily explained with statistics and the Littlewood's law.

en.wikipedia.org...




What you describe is EXTREMELY COMMON and almost everyone is subject to it. It is just like when you look to a digital clock and you seem to see way too often times like 22:22 ; 1:11 ; 11:11 etc...

The book made a statistical analysis with the hypothesis of a faulty bulb in a street light (sodium vapor). Those type of bulb, if they are faulty, usually turn on and off on regular basis (every 50 seconds for exemple). In that situation, it is extremely common to believe that the bulb turn off "just when you arrive in its vicinty". Actually everyone crossing it will see the same.

We are constantly miscalculating probabilities, leading us to believe that in fact common event are "uncommon".




A very striking exemple is the following : The birthday problem.

Before reading further, try to asses the probability that, in a room containing 50 random persons, at least 2 are born the same day of the year.


Try to figure if it is likely or not ?

1% probability ?
5% ???
10% ???













The correct answer is 97%. Meaning it is almost IMPOSSIBLE that all birthday are different in a group of 50 people !!!


en.wikipedia.org...


I hope this illustrate simply how biased our brain is when tryin to assess if an event is probable, or highly uncommon and thus "a strange coincidence"





[edit on 6-9-2009 by SpaceGoatsFarts]


reply posted on 6-9-2009 @ 11:28 AM by above
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Did you read mine? They state they only experience it while under the influence of DXM, not POT. Neither while they are sober.

I do not experience this ever. Should maybe buy some cough medicine, and see if there is some substance to this rumour?

[edit on 6-9-2009 by above]


reply posted on 7-9-2009 @ 04:53 AM by SpaceGoatsFarts
Originally posted by above
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post by SpaceGoatsFarts



Did you read mine? They state they only experience it while under the influence of DXM, not POT. Neither while they are sober.

I do not experience this ever. Should maybe buy some cough medicine, and see if there is some substance to this rumour?

[edit on 6-9-2009 by above]


I used "Pothead" as a nickname for any drug user. Yes I read your post.

Too bad you never experienced this. I do all the time and don't take cough syrup to get high.

There is a broken sodium vapor lamp in my street that goes off 50% of the time I cross it.

But as explained in my post, those type of lamps when they are broken go on and off according to a certain cycle (example : 1min on, 1min of, etc).

I this lamp stays in your field of view for 15 sec, there is 25% chance that it will go off when you cross it. If you see it 2 times every weekday, it will goes off when you are there 2 times per week. And yet you will find this "very unusual".

Simple math, no telekinetic forces.

Please read the Birthday problem or Littlewood's law I mention :

We see true miracles (chance of 1 per million) every month. Does that means we are special ?

[edit on 7-9-2009 by SpaceGoatsFarts]

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