Obama Aide Van Jones Resigns After GOP Attacks, page 5

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reply posted on 7-9-2009 @ 12:09 AM by HunkaHunka

Originally posted by AshleyD
First of all, I am very glad this man resigned his position. By no means did he have any business working for the White House.

On a side note, didn't Palin claim to resign due to attacks from the left? And that they were interfering with her ability to perform as governor and were costing too much money for defense?

Can't remember exactly. But if that's the case, to those saying Van Jones' resignation was due to GOP attacks, do you feel the same towards Palin? Does it disgust you in the same way? Why would you transfer the blame to the GOP for Van Jones' resignation but not feel the same way for Palin's resignation?

[edit on 9/6/2009 by AshleyD]

Thank you Ashley... what you have expressed is exactly my point as well in this situation.

[edit on 7-9-2009 by HunkaHunka]

reply posted on 7-9-2009 @ 12:14 AM by jsobecky

reply to post by HunkaHunka

In this case, it was the GOP Attacks (which happen no matter what the admin does) which brought this to light. It's not exactly a win for them, as much as it is just the fact that a broken clock is right twice a day.

It was a huge win for America. It cut a cancer out of our system before it had a chance to metastasize.

I suppose some people believe that when both sides are on the attack, that there is somehow a virtue of supervision which results out of this, because folks like Van Jones fall out of the deck. But I'm not such an inquisitor. I believe that the costs of the constant witch-hunt far outweigh whatever benefits can come from it.

This is where I and many others disagree with you.

The price of freedom is eternal vigilance.

reply posted on 7-9-2009 @ 12:23 AM by HunkaHunka

reply to post by jsobecky

We don't disagree on the fact that freedom means eternal vigilance as you put it, but that doesn't require constant attacks from both sides on eachother.

There is such thing as peer review before going to press. Every time I turn around the GOP is attacking someone, and yes Pelosi grates on my nerves with her own yammering.

Let people do their research. Find something out which is valid and then bring it to light. They started off on his rhetoric.. then they went from there. The first Hannity show I saw on this guy was REACHING... it was early on in the Attack Cycle.

All I'm saying is STOP WITH THE ATTACK PANTOMIME! Until you find something... and if you have to feign an attack in order find something, then you are not helping anyone. That's like violating your privacy in order to find you guilty of something and saying it was justified.

reply posted on 7-9-2009 @ 12:29 AM by Stormdancer777

Obama November 2007 I know how to choose talent

www.youtube.com...

YouTube Link

"I know how to choose talent that can take this country in the direction I think we should go."

He knows exactly what he is doing, he just thought he could get away with it, look at the others he has chosen.

Valerie Jarrett said they have had their eye on Jones for a long time, you know Valerie, the other half of Obama's brain?

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reply posted on 7-9-2009 @ 12:42 AM by jsobecky

reply to post by HunkaHunka

There was so much to find that was so easy to find on this guy. A simple google would have hung him.

How did all of that info slip past Obama?

It didn't - he is of the same mindset as Van Jones. He wanted like-minded people like him in his administration.

He thought that the fact that his czars do not have to pass congressional review, and answer to nobody but him, that he could stack the deck with scum like VJ, and nobody could stop him.

Well, he was wrong.

So stop blaming Hannity, et al, for this. Van Jones is scum and that is what attracted Obama.

reply posted on 7-9-2009 @ 12:48 AM by HunkaHunka

reply to post by jsobecky

You honestly believe that Obama knew Van Jones was a truther?

reply posted on 7-9-2009 @ 01:07 AM by jsobecky

reply to post by HunkaHunka

He must be one big dumbass if he didn't.

I could find that info out with my home PC. He has the resources of the US gov't at his behest. And he can't find out basic crap like that?

reply posted on 7-9-2009 @ 01:35 AM by earlywatcher

reply to post by jsobecky

not only did he have all the resources of the government but valerie jarrett proudly said "they" have been watching him and his activities for years, were very excited about his ideas and his enthusiasm. so they would have known when he became a truther.

I agree with you that obama is of the same mindset as van jones and that's why obama and jarrett wanted him. I'm not clear on whether obama understands about vetting or not. he has pretty much gotten by on the notion that rules don't apply to him, so it's hard to say if he understands vetting and deliberately set out to circumvent it with these czar appointments or if he simply thinks it's irrelevant in his case.

I don't understand why obama has been allowed to leave cabinet level and undersecretary positions unfilled but to appoint special advisors instead. This is not supported by the constitution. It is very easy to see why obama has come to believe rules don't apply to him.

reply posted on 7-9-2009 @ 01:42 AM by Jacob08

This guy is the perfect example of one of the NWO's useful idiots. Until this point Bush was the best public example of one but now we have a new champion. I bet these figureheads have no idea of what the end game is, it's almost like watching cattle being herded.

reply posted on 7-9-2009 @ 03:40 AM by THX-1138

This is only the beginning of the Obama Compromise.

Eventually, he WILL do what the Republic wants him to do.

Then he will go down in history as the most compromised piece of crap ever to sit in the White House.

The Republicans have beaten the Leftists in office, not out of office.
This administration is now the broken ho of a mighty street corner pimp.
Mackadocious Republicans up, Radical Commie Leftists down.

reply posted on 7-9-2009 @ 11:57 AM by HunkaHunka

I wonder how the truthers felt about this guy?

So he signed a petition to investigate whether or not high-level officials "allowed 9/11 to happen".

isn't this what all the NWO rhetoric is about?

Shouldn't this guy be a hero, or martyr to that cause?

Oh how quickly we turn... all because he is linked to Obama....

Sad that we sheeple don't think for ourselves.

reply posted on 7-9-2009 @ 12:05 PM by AshleyD

reply to post by HunkaHunka

I don't think many ATS members have problems with him being a truther. The media (both liberal and conservative) is generally the one who holds it against people for being truthers. Beck, one of those who made an issue out of it, is especially hostile to truthers.

I think the main issue ATS members have with Van Jones is not because he is a truther but his very troubling beliefs and stances in other areas including his views regarding race and communism.

reply posted on 7-9-2009 @ 12:18 PM by Stormdancer777

SF Chronicle: Obama Knew About Van Jones' Radical Background in Advance

newsbusters.org...

There is a charge floating around out there that President Barack Obama knew in advance about the radical background of Van Jones before appointing him as his "green jobs czar." So where is this charge coming from? Glenn Beck? Nope. Fox News? Nope. This revelatory charge was made on the pages of the liberal San Francisco Chronicle in an article on the Jones resignation written by Joe Garofoli:

The middle-of-the-night resignation Sunday of longtime Bay Area activist Van Jones as a White House environmental adviser left many progressives angry at the Obama administration for buckling to conservative criticism of Jones' controversial past comments and actions.

...Supporters say the administration surely knew his background when they appointed Jones, the first African American to write a best-selling environmental book, as special adviser for green jobs at the White House Council on Environmental Quality. In fact, agents interviewed at least one of his former supervisors in San Francisco - Eva Paterson - when the FBI vetted his appointment.

In fact, agents interviewed at least one of his former supervisors in San Francisco - Eva Paterson - when the FBI vetted his appointment.

www.sfgate.com.../c/a/2009/09/07/MNT319JJCF.DTL

What can I say?

reply posted on 7-9-2009 @ 12:25 PM by Stormdancer777

Originally posted by HunkaHunka
reply to post by jsobecky

You honestly believe that Obama knew Van Jones was a truther?

WHY YES<

Obama's Pastor: God Damn America, U.S. to Blame for 9/11
Obama's Pastor, Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Has a History of What Even Obama's Campaign Aides Say Is 'Inflammatory Rhetoric'
abcnews.go.com...

In the 21st century, white America got a wake-up call after 9/11/01. White America and the Western world came to realize that people of color had not gone away, faded into the woodwork or just “disappeared” as the Great White West kept on its merry way of ignoring Black concerns.

Wright.

Sure he knows.

reply posted on 7-9-2009 @ 01:09 PM by Stormdancer777

White House: Van Jones Did Not Fill Out 63-Question, Seven-Page Questionnaire

www.breitbart.tv...

Video,

"I asked a White House official today if Van Jones filled out that famous seven-page, 63-question questionnaire that the White House put forward to everyone who was either going to have a Cabinet position or a high-ranking advisory position in the White House. Van Jones did not," Fox News White House Correspondent Major Garrett reported Monday.

Did any of them fill out the questionnaire?

reply posted on 7-9-2009 @ 01:14 PM by Grumble

Obama or his team knew exactly what they were getting.

They needed to placate the Bay Area whackjob constituency and were willing to throw this guy against the wall and see if he would stick.

Eternal vigilence is indeed required because both parties are like toddlers -- always testing their limits.

reply posted on 7-9-2009 @ 06:29 PM by redhead57

reply to post by Stormdancer777

I was wondering about that when I first heard all of his socialist leanings and the crap he did. I guess the days of "No Drama Obama" have come to an end. God knows what chapter is next.

reply posted on 7-9-2009 @ 07:15 PM by earlywatcher

reply to post by redhead57

I wonder how much longer people are going to put up with his "i didn't know anything about it" nonsense. he's pulled it so many times now it's getting old.

reply posted on 7-9-2009 @ 07:21 PM by truthseiker

i think there is a possibility that this guy was intentionally being used to demonize the 9/11 truth movement. this is evidenced by the absurd statements he made recently and other inflammatory remarks. i can't say i'll miss him though.

reply posted on 8-9-2009 @ 01:32 AM by EsSeeEye

Originally posted by earlywatcher
reply to post by redhead57

I wonder how much longer people are going to put up with his "i didn't know anything about it" nonsense. he's pulled it so many times now it's getting old.

Forget wondering how long people will put up with it. How long until people start asking themselves what it is that he DOES know, considering he doesn't seem to know anything or anybody.

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