Obama Aide Van Jones Resigns After GOP Attacks

Originally posted by piddles
he didn't do anything wrong, in terms of calling republicans "assholes" or siding with the idea that 9/11 isn't how they say it went.


dunno much else about him but I'd like to think many people share the opinion

How about the statement that only white suburban kids shoot up schools and pull a Columbine and then stated that black kids would only shoot who they wanted to and not be indescriminate. Kept repeating that white kids are hurting... WTF?

Do you agree with that. You see, if you agree with someone you have to take ALL the rhetoric they spread and you must defend it.

Again, another person with no true experience being put into a position that is not vetted.

Like stated, you don't know much about him...

VIDEO

There is no reason to have anyone like this in a non vetted appointment with ANY presidents ear.

[edit on 6-9-2009 by esdad71]

Damn!

I just sent an email to the Green Jobs Czar asking him why I have an Bachelor of Science in EHOS, have been in the environmental field for a decade and a half yet have no job!

Who is the next in line I need to send another email and resume to him demanding 'my' green job.

Hey!

I Sent the email late Friday(about 50 or so hours ago) to the White house attn Van Jones....

What are the odds I will get his job for being first in line? I didn't attach a resume though it was just an email.

Originally posted by piddles

dunno much else about him but I'd like to think many people share the opinion

You haven't listened to the CD he and Mumia abu Jamal (PA cop killer) made while he was an "activist." have you? I won't quote, but they incite violence by "people of color" against white people.

Or read about his group, STORM?

Van Jones, is an avowed communist and founder of STORM, whose philosophy says: “All of STORM's members developed a commitment to Revolutionary Marxist Policies and 3rd world communist movements.”

Deny ignorance!

jw

[edit on 6-9-2009 by jdub297]

Hey one less "Czar" is always a good thing in my book.

Czar
–noun
1. an emperor or king.
2. (often initial capital letter) the former emperor of Russia.
3. an autocratic ruler or leader.
4. any person exercising great authority or power in a particular field: a czar of industry.

I'd do a better job than this weiner:


I have been in the middle between the homeowners concerned about their health and the Business owners trying to use the best products* to produce the best products that will last. Tools buy vintage or antique off of ebay and buy a new one from harbor freight and see which one you would rather use and and which is still in use to give to your child when he is grown, out of teh house and needs a tool set to start with.

Rather than giving out fines and punishing businesses for making products that people want to buy how about these government agencies picking up the waste and properly process it?

Right now as it stands the DTSC, EPA and the rest of the agencies are no more than mobs looking for a company as a potential fine (They just want to wet their beaks) rather than concerned about the health of the country.

*You can buy an environmentally friendly product that lasts 1/5 the time that an unfriendly product does. (Ex: leather- I have a saddle made in 1886- not typo the post 1986 saddles if you are lucky last 10 years why? In 1986 the EPA regulations (community right to know and a lot of restrictions) hit and they could no longer use the old style tanning methods which took along time (16 weeks or so) and it took a lot of water to rinse the tannins out of the leather- you know what that tannin being rinsed out was? Oak bark - as in from a tree you know what they use now? Chromium. You could have a small amount gallon wise of a heavy metal toxin or a 5 times more of a natural acid along the lines of strong tea. But you have to buy four of the proiduct made of the chomium product because it doesn't last as long.
Don't get me stared on buying a new car as opposed to maintaining an old one. The hybrids? Not impressed - look up the fuel economy of the old Datsuns, morris minors, nash metropolitans, or the Messerschmidts, these little old cars get close to 40 MPG and this was in the1950s- there is no excuse for the hybrids bragging about getting 27 mpg per car.

Reply to Mental Modulator

Word, certainly these czars did not smell as czary I guess


Donald E. Powell.
Bush’s Czar to Rebuild Gulf Coast

Karen Hughes.
Bush's Public Diplomacy Czar

Randall Tobias.
Bush's AIDS Czar

Dr. Mark Dybul.
Bush's other AIDS Czar

Richard Stickler.
Bush's Mine Safety Czar

You could have, easily, researched those you mentioned and come up with reasons why some of them should not have been appointed.

For instance:

Donald E. Powell - Banking and finance qualify someone for this position or was it the large campaign donations?

Karen P. Hughes - Actually not a 'czar'. Was confirmed by the Senate Foreign Relations Committee as Under Secretary of State for Public Diplomace and Public Affairs.

Randall L. Tobias - Actually was appointed the Admistrator for the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID) not AIDS czar. Funny though that you confuse this, since he resigned over a scandal of hiring prostitutes or 'escorts'. source: www.sourcewatch.org...

Dr. Mark Dybul - Appointed by Bush and retained by Obama...

Richard Stickler - Pushed through during a congressional recess, because both Dems and Reps had concerns over his "safety" record, as manager of several mines.

I'll gather more info, later. In the meantime, a little less partisanship here would be refreshing. Let's agree that Dems and Reps have all abandoned the citizenry, for their own agendas.


[edit on 6-9-2009 by WTFover]

Originally posted by RRconservative
I think this is great!

How could you be a Jobs Czar, but have never previously created a single job in the first place?

1 down, and a few more to go. Cass Sunnstein, and Mark Llyod shouldn't be too far behind.

Death by a 1,000 cuts.
Keep them coming.
The truth is burning the White House. Ouch!

Originally posted by WTFover
Reply to Mental Modulator

My point is the hypocrisy being displayed needs to be addressed...
I quickly gathered a short list and it looks flawed as you pointed out.
Regardless this does not change the fact the other administrations have done the same
thing, however this is the only time I have seen such backlash to the practice.
It SMACKS OF PARTISANSHIP as these same people did not bother to be concerned before.

My response was to a conservative member who was attempting to assert that this practice was completely new to this administration. These people are "battling extremism" yet they are using tactics of the extreme, thusly trying to set a stage that
severs their extreme notions.

I want my country to get better another pole shift to extremism is not what will work for
me.



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[edit on 6-9-2009 by mental modulator]

reply to post by esdad71


First off, don't be offended by what i am trying to convey..just read.

I agree what Van Jones is saying. White men especially young men are ignored in this country.

What Van Jones says is his own opinion, don't get pissed at him. How many black kids HAVE gone to their school and shot everyone indiscriminately when compared to the number of white kids. I mean black kids have done shootings at school, let's not act like it's never happened.

You see what really ticks me off is that people are trying to hang this dude out to dry when they don't know about Reganomics (they won't say anything bad about him), J Edgar Hoover, or Storm Thermen (i butchered his name i know. Hell, i don't even know if i got his name right, lol. Anyways, he was a notorious racist against black but admitted to having an affair and having a child with his black maid).

Personally to me, it seems like when someone criticizes black people especially on this forum a majority of folks on ATS don't necessarily agree but they feel the OP, if you don't believe me then read the posts on ATS when dealing with ethnic based issues. But when the shoe is on the other foot, everyone condemns it, this is why as a black guy, i pretty much try to avoid these racially charged issues.

Let's just agree to disagree and move on.

It would have been nice if all these nice folk here had been as thorough in their scrutiny of Michael (Brownie) Brown before he became the head of FEMA. He may not have been super-mega-commie like Jones but that didn't stop him from costing people their lives.

I guess we'll chalk that one up to live and learn eh?

Edited for Tasteless party line humor

[edit on 6-9-2009 by mental modulator]

reply to post by schrodingers dog


Exactly what i'm talking about. Van Jones get hung out to dry but many others manage to "slip" through the cracks of bureaucracy.

2nd line.

Originally posted by cenpuppie
reply to post by schrodingers dog

 

Exactly what i'm talking about. Van Jones get hung out to dry but many others manage to "slip" through the cracks of bureaucracy.

2nd line.

Its GOP, bowling for voters...

We are expecting some sort of equitable intellectual honesty...

Its not gonna happen, EVER!

reply to post by cenpuppie


Van Jones had to go.
His own words hanged him.
Let the chips fall where they may.
The truth turned Van Jones from asset to liability.
Pack your bags.
I wonder who Glenn Beck will "out" this week. Who's next?

reply to post by mental modulator

Regardless this does not change the fact the other administrations have done the same
thing, however this is the only time I have seen such backlash to the practice.

You're talking about the practive of appointing czars, right?

The fact is, Obama has acted like a pig with his pratices. He has appointed more czars than any other administration, with no end in sight.

A good way to evade congressional appointment and oversight. That's exactly what he is doing. Most of these czars, if required to go through an appointment process, would never make it past the first round.

reply to post by schrodingers dog


If he did cause people to lose their lives ( debatable ) it was because of incompetence. If VJ had the chance, he would do it out of hatred and racism.

Originally posted by jsobecky
reply to post by schrodingers dog

 

If he did cause people to lose their lives ( debatable ) it was because of incompetence. If VJ had the chance, he would do it out of hatred and racism.

I think both are good reasons to be excluded from public service.

My comment was geared more towards the fact that one did not receive the same degree of scrutiny as the other.

[edit on 6 Sep 2009 by schrodingers dog]

Originally posted by jsobecky
reply to post by mental modulator

 

Regardless this does not change the fact the other administrations have done the same
thing, however this is the only time I have seen such backlash to the practice.

You're talking about the practive of appointing czars, right?

The fact is, Obama has acted like a pig with his pratices. He has appointed more czars than any other administration, with no end in sight.

Thats not the point, the point is Righties are making it seems as if this practice is new.

No doubt because Czar falls hand and hand with the Totalitarian Obama dictatorship
and yields itself to rural xenophobia.

reply to post by HunkaHunka


No, this was a patriotic attack against an un-American hater.

You should try to ThinkaThinka, HunkaHunka!

reply to post by schrodingers dog

My comment was geared more towards the fact that one did not receive the same degree of scrutiny as the other.

Well, if Brownie wasn't scrutinized, whose fault was that?

And talk about scrutiny...how could Obama possibly have appointed VJ if he were properly vetted? The only way is if Obama did vet him and still agreed with his racist policies.

So what does that tell ya?