FEMA Coffins whats your view on these stackable Coffins?, page 2
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reply posted on 5-9-2009 @ 04:41 PM by The Undertaker
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Thank you for the vote of confidence. The original thread on this subject www.abovetopsecret.com...
is the reason I finally signed up to ATS. After being a wide eyed lurker for a while I finally found a thread I could contribute some expertise to. I'm not sure what else I can do to try and educate people on what these black scary looking things are.

To deny ignorance is one thing, to prove it is another.


reply posted on 5-9-2009 @ 04:46 PM by The Undertaker
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Can't argue with a computer now can we?





reply posted on 5-9-2009 @ 04:55 PM by The Undertaker
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Dude? What does the DARPA mule have to do with burial vaults stacked ominously outside Atlanta?


reply posted on 5-9-2009 @ 05:08 PM by Red Dawn 09
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To answer your question. What they have in common is FEMA. It is not a for the people organization. So just goes to show that they are making attempts at going robotic and their progress they allow us to see.

Im sorry if you think i am trying to bash on your years of experience in the funeral home industry. It was not a thing i would do on purpose. I totally belive that you know what your talking about when it comes to coffins.
All im saying is millions all over the US and the lids are shapped for stacking purposes. Kinda odd thing to spend tax payers money on is all.

[edit on 5-9-2009 by Red Dawn 09]



reply posted on 5-9-2009 @ 05:12 PM by Sparky63
In case you missed it. The answer to these liners is provided here.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

The "coffins" aren't coffins at all, according to Lacey. Instead, they are burial vaults, "the outer container for caskets," Lacey said, placed in the ground before the coffin to protect the coffin and maintain level ground above.
There are currently 50,000 of these burial vaults on the property, according to Lacey. As the vaults were placed on the site around 1997 or 1998, there may have been as many as 70,000 or 80,000 to begin with.
"It's nowhere near the quantity they talk about on the Internet," Lacey said.
This quantity of burial vaults, Vantage's Standard Air Seal model in black, also the least expensive model and the most in-demand, was made to cater to what Lacey calls the funeral industry's "pre-need." This "pre-need" occurs when people make arrangements for their funeral before they actually pass away, so that the family doesn't have to go through the perceived stress of making the arrangements. When these arrangements are made, the products are paid for; obviously, though, they are not yet needed.
So, Vantage stores the product until the person dies, and the product is needed.
Further, pallets of the burial vaults are moved truckloads at a time, as there is space for a palate at the
Contrary to the beliefs of the theorists, then, the burial vaults aren't owned by the government, or FEMA. Instead, they're owned by individuals, or not yet sold.
"They're not owned by any one individual, company or the government," Lacey said.
Further, Vantage leases the land, located at 1200 Madison Industrial Boulevard, from Conyers Welding & Supply and has for four to five years, a fact confirmed by Conyers Welding & Supply. Conyers Welding & Supply took over the lease when the property was purchased from Robert Usury in 2000. Usury purchased the property in 1989, according to information provided by the Morgan County Tax Assessor's Office and the Morgan County Online Public Property Portal.
The answer as to why the vaults are being stored in Madison? To put it simply, the Covington-based manufacturer got a good deal close to home.
"It was the most cost-effective place," Lacey said.



reply posted on 5-9-2009 @ 05:20 PM by Red Dawn 09
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Well you actually have to do some research if you want to see more than one side of the picture. Here is another side of it.

perrrfection

FEMA Coffins in Kingsbury Indiana and NEW Underground FEMA Bunkers on a Closed Military Base. GOOGLE EARTH New FEMA Coffins in Kingsbury Location: 41°3108.48N 86°4124.36W New FEMA Underground Bunkers: Location: 41°3020.58N 86°3634.79W OLD Kingsbury Bunkers Location: 41°3122.54N 86°3956.15W Known FEMA Coffins in Georgia Location: 33°3357.36N 83°296.26W Look it up!!! WARNING: Youtube keeps removing this video use www.keepvid.com or www.kcoolonline.com

Its important to keep an open mind in ALL things to see the real picture.


reply posted on 7-9-2009 @ 09:20 AM by musselwhite


reply posted on 7-9-2009 @ 02:05 PM by musselwhite
Vanguard????? i think the company pauligirl is speaking about is vantage products.
Vantage Corporation has a very suspicious history and equally suspicious connections today. On the Vantage website, they state: "Vantage Products Corporations was founded in 1978. The plant was a research and development facility of Hercules, Inc. before being purchased. Hercules, Inc. is a multi-national/global corporation that is primarily a chemical company, but also has a number of subsidiaries and is part of the Aqualon Group as is Vantage Products. Hercules spun off from DuPont Corporation in the early 1900's. Hercules, which has been acquired by Ashland Corporation, has had major defense contracts with the US government. This is their website: www.ashland.com... The Chief Legal Officer for Hercules worked 30 years for Monsanto in various high positions: Richard G. Dahlen Chief Legal Officer Vantage has ties to Hercules, which has ties to Monsanto. The corporation has the smell of a CIA front company, but it gets better..... Vantage's parent company is Rowan Technologies. Check out their website here: www.rowantechnologies.com... this is from www.neithercorp.us... but let's not forget:

Our work concentrates on various aspects of materials, including manufacture, repair, forming, coating, testing, etc. Much, but not all, is in the area of environmentally acceptable processing to replace existing widely used, but problematic processes and materials.

Unlike many government contractors, we maintain both government and commercial business and contracts. This ensures that we are fully cognizant with all the available technology, materials, experts, vendors, needs, and requirements across the spectrum of users in DoD and private industry.www.rowantechnology.com... and their other site www.hazmat-alternatives.com... also known as www.ashland.com


And what is one of Rowan Technologies major products? Industrial Furnaces and Ovens. I'm sure its all a coincidence.......

Polyguard, the other coffin company involved in this mess, has been awarded a contract for an undisclosed number of Coffins by the U.S. Government. You can see the bid contract here: www.governmentbids.com... Query.Status=PublicVisitor/SearchQuery.ItemIdList.ItemId=3526566/Searc hQuery.QueryId= Notice that the due date for the bid closed on 03/19/2009


as far as these coffins being for cremation it specifically says in the patent:

Von Braun, Raymond M. (906 W. Victoria Ave., #178, Montebello, CA, 90640) Milby, Robert V. (906 W. Victoria Ave., #178, Montebello, CA, 90640) www.freepatentsonline.com... What is claimed is: 1. A multi-functional cremation container for a cadaver comprising: a rectangular container made of a material taken from a group of polymers such as polyolefins, polyallomers, polyethylenes and polypropylenes, the material producing no atmospheric polluting gases or vapors when burned, the container being enclosed on five sides by four container side panels, and a bottom panel, a sixth side, being an upwardly facing open top, defining, and providing access to an internal volume within the container, the side panels terminating at the open top in a first annular horizontal peripheral groove and a downturned external container flange having a downfacing annular edge, the flange defining an annular hand clearance space between the flange and the side panels for improved gripping in carrying the container; and a rectangular cover having a horizontal top panel with four peripheral, downwardly extending cover side panels, the side panels fitting over the container flange for closing the container, the top panel having a peripheral, upwardly facing second annular horizontal groove for nesting within the first annular groove as a moisture barrier; whereby, a cadaver can be contained during funeral preparation, presented at a funeral, and cremated in the cremation container, the cover providing isolation to the internal volume and additional rigidity to the cremation container. 2. The cremation container of claim 1 further including a sealing strip sandwiched between the first and second annular grooves for providing a moisture and vapor barrier such that molecular exchange between the internal volume and the environment is thwarted. 3. The cremation container of claim 2 wherein the sealing strip is of an ethylene vinyl acetate polyolefin. 4. The cremation container of claim 2 wherein the sealing strip is of Elvax™ manufactured by DuPont Corporation. 5. The cremation container of claim 2 wherein the sealing strip includes an adhesive material being positioned between the strip and the first annular groove, for holding the strip permanently to the container. 6. The cremation container of claim 5 wherein the sealing strip further includes the adhesive material being positioned between the strip and the second annular groove, for improved sealing of the casket. 7. The cremation container of claim 1 wherein the four cover side panels and the annular downturned external flange are not mutually flush so that the cover is easily removed. 8. The cremation container of claim 7 wherein said non-flush condition is achieved by the relative downward angle of each of the four cover side panels and the relative downward angle of the external flange being unequal. 9. The cremation container of claim 1 wherein each of the cover side panels includes a means for latching against the downfacing annular edge. 10. The cremation container of claim 1 wherein the container includes a plurality of parallel container stiffening ribs extending laterally and longitudinally over the container side panels and the bottom panel for improved cremation container rigidity. 11. The cremation container of claim 1 wherein the cover includes a plurality of parallel cover stiffening ribs extending laterally and longitudinally over the cover side panels and the top panel for improved casket rigidity. 12. The cremation container of claim 1 further including a plurality of notch-shaped reliefs in the cover side panels for use in carrying the cremation container when the cover is in place on the container. Description: FIELD OF THE INVENTION This invention relates to a casket for the transport, storage and cremation of a cadaver, and, more particularly, to such a casket having certain improvements in use and especially in providing non-polluting combustion byproducts.
www.freepatentsonline.com...
www.abovetopsecret.com...




[edit on 7-9-2009 by musselwhite]


reply posted on 7-9-2009 @ 02:45 PM by Pauligirl

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