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reply posted on 5-9-2009 @ 01:33 PM by crimvelvet

reply to post by A Fortiori

Actually it was the bankers who screwed Tesla (and Edison)

J. P. Morgan loaned money to Thomas Edison for his incandescent light research and therefore directed Edison's power generation and distribution plants. Nikola Tesla (July 10, 1856 - January 7, 1943), a Serbian who later became a U.S. citizen, was fluent in seven languages. He patented the radio on March 20, 1900, a patent usurped and used by Marconi. Tesla needed the financing that the House of Morgan offered but wishing to retain independence, he resisted the accompanying control. He had witnessed the robber baron's 1891 aggressive takeover of the struggling Thomson-Houston Company and the Edison Company to form General Electric4

Tesla had also witnessed how Morgan coveted and endangered the autonomy of Westinghouse. Morgan wanted Tesla to sign over his broad spectrum radio patents as security for the loans. Tesla had plans for a directed-energy weapon, not yet patented. Tesla proposed an end to all war. Tesla's alternating current induction motor could have provided free, world-wide electricity to every human. Undoubtedly, Morgan, making huge profits from energy, wished to conceal that possibility. German born George H. Scherff Sr. served as Tesla's accountant and assistant. When Tesla died, his vast collection of papers were seized and classified by the banker-obedient government.5

Ref 4. The New York Times Guide to Essential Knowledge: A Desk Reference for the Curious Mind By The New York Times, Published by Macmillan 2004, pp. 142-143

Ref 5 Margaret Cheney, Tesla, Man Out of Time, Barnes & Noble, New York, 1993, pg. 99, 80, 157-160

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reply posted on 5-9-2009 @ 01:40 PM by dodadoom

reply to post by crimvelvet

You are correct about the bankers controlling everything.
They took over this country eons ago.
Trouble is, our system for the richest is so ingrained that
most dont even realize its happening or they admire it and
think its needed!
Now thats purty scary!

reply posted on 5-9-2009 @ 02:11 PM by TypeSH2001

Interesting how the corporate tax rate half a century ago was at 90% and now it's less than half that. Very few were crying "Socialism!" and we had very few billionaires compared to today.

I'm very pro SMALL business but in the corrupted money culture society that we've become most will cry poverty no matter how successful they are.

The baby boomers/yuppies/me!, me!/i want!, i want! generation have ruled most of the corporations for several decades now and the country is set to pay an enormous price for it. Like a friend of mine said, the generation that saved civilization spawned the generation that will destroy it. I agree.

reply posted on 5-9-2009 @ 02:19 PM by hotpinkurinalmint

What's said it it is not a "Me-First, Screw You Crowd" it is more of a "Warren Buffet (whom I will one day be like) first, screw you crowd." Warren Buffet and his billionaire cronies are not the ones doing all the kicking and screaming. It is ordinary people, who somehow think that they will one day be in the top tax brackets that are kicking and screaming. Little do these people know that virtually none of them will ever be wealthy. Most of these people are going to die with little or no net worth.

Take the debate over the estate tax. The estate tax only affects the top 1%. Yet polls show that 40% of Americans think they are or will be in the top 1%.

Wake up America and stop being mindless goons for the elite.

reply posted on 5-9-2009 @ 02:44 PM by tjeffersonsghost

We were warned by our founding fathers about international banksters and corporations taking over our country. We didnt listen. We were warned after the great depression. We didnt listen. We we warned by people like Louis Thomas McFadden who spelled it ALL out to congress in the 30s

www.modernhistoryproject.org...

and we didnt listen. Here are some quotes but I recommend you read the full piece. It will wake you up REAL fast about what is going on. He warned us and we are now living in the hell our parents allowed to happen.

"When the Federal Reserve act was passed, the people of the United States did not perceive that... the United States were to be lowered to the position of a coolie country which has nothing but raw materials and heavy goods for export; that Russia [China, India...] was destined to supply the man power and that this country was to supply financial power to an international superstate -- a superstate controlled by international bankers and international industrialists acting together to enslave the world for their own pleasure."

Mr. Chairman, when the Federal Reserve act was passed, the people of the United States did not perceive that a world system was being set up here which would make the savings of an American school-teacher available to a narcotic-drug vendor in Macao. They did not perceive that the United States were to be lowered to the position of a coolie country which has nothing but raw materials and heavy goods for export; that Russia [and China --ed] was destined to supply the man power and that this country was to supply financial power to an international superstate -- a superstate controlled by international bankers and international industrialists acting together to enslave the world for their own pleasure.

The people of the United States are being greatly wronged. If they are not, then I do not know what "wronging the people" means. They have been driven from their employments. They have been dispossessed of their homes. They have been evicted from their rented quarters. They have lost their children. They have been left to suffer and to die for lack of shelter, food, clothing, and medicine.

The wealth of the United States and the working capital of the United States has been taken away from them and has either been locked in the vaults of certain banks and the great corporations or exported to foreign countries for the benefit of the foreign customers of those banks and corporations. So far as the people of the United States are concerned, the cupboard is bare. It is true that the warehouses and coal yards and grain elevators are full, but the warehouses and coal yards and grain elevators are padlocked and the great banks and corporations hold the keys. The sack of the United States by the Federal Reserve Board and the Federal Reserve banks is the greatest crime in history.

Mr. Chairman, a serious situation confronts the House of Representatives to-day. We are trustees of the people and the rights of the people are being taken away from them. Through the Federal Reserve Board and the Federal Reserve banks, the people are losing the rights guaranteed to them by the Constitution. Their property has been taken from them without due process of law. Mr. Chairman, common decency requires us to examine the public accounts of the Government and see what crimes against the public welfare have and are being committed.

Read the whole congressional record on the link above.

reply posted on 5-9-2009 @ 03:42 PM by ofhumandescent

reply to post by mikerussellus

So if you and I lived in the same city and paid taxes and your house was burning and you called the firemen and they came and put out that fire with some of my tax money that is okay?

Get real, you're thinking is corporate bs and 1960's "communists are gonna get us".

You need to educate yourself.

You may work hard for everything you have but with one medical issue, and if your insurance company wiggled out of paying for your "medical issue" you dear friend would be screwed (unless you have a rich daddy).

Everyone deserves good medical care.

Start researching how corrupt our medical payoff system currently is.

Start researching on how we are the only industrialized nation on the face of the planet with no universal medical coverage.

www.everydaycitizen.com...
Rising insurance premiums and the decreasing "at work" coverages have left 47 million U.S. citizens uninsured, although the majority of these uninsured Americans are working full time. Four out of five uninsured Americans live in working families.

Nearly half of all small businesses no longer provide health coverage for their employees.

Our so-called "health care system" is broken and is wrecking our economy and our families' futures.

Bottom line: The health care system in our country is broken, and we need to make fundamental changes in how it's delivered, how it's accessed and how it's paid for.

Reform is no longer a question, it's inevitable.

reply posted on 5-9-2009 @ 03:44 PM by crimvelvet

reply to post by dodadoom

You are correct about the bankers controlling everything. They took over this country eons ago.

Yes and they bought the media in 1917 so we would be fed propaganda.

It drives me crazy watching people say they have a "right to XXXX" get legislation past, create a huge bureaucracy that always some how makes everything worse and the only winners are the bankers. No one ever bothers to look behind the bills. For example the food safety bill is a classic example.

1995 -6 Cargill drafts the World Trade Organization Agreement on Ag, Monsanto gets it passed and Monsanto gets the FDA to toss out our traditional food safety regs and install international HACCP. Cargill writes the "Freedom to Farm Act designed to eliminate the US emergency stores of food.

Tainted food comes in from China thanks to WTO and HACCP transfers food safety testing from the USDA/FDA to the corporations. Deaths/illness due to food sky rockets.

The media plays up the tainted food problem while burying the real cause. There are at least 2 Congressional investigations but the USDA/Corporate colluders go unpunished and those telling the truth are marginalized. (John Munsell and Stan Painter)

Rosa Delauro, whose husband was a contractor for Monsanto, introduces the Ag Cartel written bill that will regulate ALL food production. It includes massive red tape and is designed to bankrupt independent farmers, eliminate home gardens and does nothing to actually deal with tainted food. It is TESTING by the government that gave us safe food before 1995. The massive amounts of paperwork do absolutely nothing but put the small competitors out of business make it impossible for new comers to compete and cost the tax payer lots of money for agents to read the useless paperwork. The happy result is sky rocketing food costs due to no real competition for the Corporations and more tax dollars and interest find its way into the pockets of the bankers and the poor people starving.

Of course the Rockefeller funded Organic Consumers Assoc. has campaigned tirelessly FOR the bill despite everthing spelled out to them in black and white with tons of references. Boy do I hate hypocritical left wingers! Give me the honest screw you, leave me alone to make a living types.

reply posted on 5-9-2009 @ 08:46 PM by dodadoom

reply to post by crimvelvet

Thanks for that!
This is close to my heart as I manage a few acres myself!
There is no better indicator of the deep doo doo we're in,
than our food situation and the slow death of the family farm.
We outsourced that too and screwed ourselves in the process.
We have sold out in every possible way.
And its all for "more".
All thats left is the repo guy showing up!
Amazing that the gravy train is still even rolling!

He who controls the food, controls the masses.
That saying is as old as dirt itself, but still extremely poignant!

reply posted on 5-9-2009 @ 09:35 PM by Rockpuck

Its not a matter of not wanting to help people, not at all, I would gladly help anyone who needed it. I would LOVE to see my money truly benefit someone... but...

Its one thing to give money to individuals and charity...

Its another to give money to the government...

reply posted on 7-9-2009 @ 10:30 AM by ofhumandescent

reply to post by A Fortiori

I did not make the comment you quoted that was from a poster that ripped into me by the name of mikerussellus - Not a Time Lord but
I have a nice watch.

I and my husband make over 130,00 a year and we voted for Obama. We believe that there should be a straight taxing system, no loop holes, no "hidden assetts" no twisty turnies the rich and corporations like to employ that the poor don't see or comprehend.

Read my past posts, visit my public profile site.

I have brought to light that my cleaning lady pays more in taxes than my husband and I - which is wrong.

So many things wrong with our warped society.

I was born and raised in downtown St. Louis by a single mother (no father).

My mother died when I was 10.

I moved from a inner city (happy) enviroment to a rich suburban St. Louis envirorment (unhappy, mean, hateful).

I consider myself, while still considered a success - trying to educate people how warped our society and political stucture is.

While not one of the real rich, my husband and I are at present labled "middle class". I work one day a week in a soup kitchen and have worked (free) for the aspca and the homeless.

We all need to share and give to each other but not to the rich and elite.

Read my public profile, read my posts.

I did not make that comment you quoted. That was a really insensitive post and I own no part of it.

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reply posted on 7-9-2009 @ 10:37 AM by ofhumandescent

reply to post by Rockpuck

A star for your heart.

If my neighbor needed heart surgery, or you needed foot surgery I would gladly share. Everyone deserves good medical care. EVERYONE.

But, I resent giving my tax dollars to AIG for their execute retreats and to fund their whores and parties.

I too also resent deeply that George W. Bush Jr. while President took 490 days of "vacation" off, I resent bailing out AIG and the other financial institutions, I resent the retirement package our Senators and Congresspeople get (see my public profile nobody bothered to check) while the common man loses his house because of one medical issue. (Research what the retirement and medical packages our politicians get).

Our system is warped big time. We allow these elite smucks to run amok. WHY CAN'T THE COMMON MAN HAVE THE SAME HEALTH CARE & RETIREMENT PACKAGE THE SENATE AND CONGRESS GET?

It's time to take back our country. It's time to wake up and kick the people who are scamming us out of office.

Lastly read my signature and look at my avatar - I am a warrior for the old, the young and animals. Those that have no say, are weaker and victims of the rich & elite AHOLES running our country.

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reply posted on 7-9-2009 @ 12:06 PM by A Fortiori

reply to post by hotpinkurinalmint

That is because they have been brainwashed and frightened to death by MSM. If people got rid of televisions in their home they'd think differently. I will try to drum up the article, but there was a really interesting breakdown of news stations and how they all use brainwashing techniques to control people.

ALL of them. Not only CNN. Not only FOX. Not only MSNBC. All of them.

reply posted on 7-9-2009 @ 12:29 PM by Tinman67

The world is being ran like a giant Monopoly game. Eventually some will end up with everything. The money isn't real, ownership of property is an illusion and if you think you can enter the game at a beginning level now and win, you are a chump.
They keep us fighting amongst ourselves over scraps. Keep us in fear of the shadows. Let them eat cake.

reply posted on 7-9-2009 @ 12:32 PM by Shadowflux

When the rich stop getting rich on the backs of under paid employees with inadequate medical coverage then I will start feeling bad for them.

I have no pity for the rich, if they did indeed become rich by their own doing the chances are good that it was due to the toil and blood of the workers they care little for. If they inherited their money I have no pity what so ever for them in any way.

When the rich stop sending jobs overseas, when they stop hiring illegal immigrant labor, when they stop manipulating markets and creating bubbles, when they stop swindling the common man and driving a once great nation into the ground, then will their complaints contain legitimacy.

It's true that the majority of any population is generally a bunch of ignorant, superstitious, slack jawed gawkers but the rich have always been debauched, devoid of value and merit and have a tendency to act against the interest of the common man.

It's sad to think that the rich have never understood the relationship between power and responsibility to those you wield power over.

reply posted on 7-9-2009 @ 04:30 PM by TypeSH2001

reply to post by Shadowflux

Human nature - the more you have the more you want and to compete with higher and higher levels of the wealthy class to appease the ego. Supply siders want you to think that the wealthy invest their wealth to stimulate the economy to higher levels but it's just the opposite. There is little or no economic (broadly speaking) stimulation by hording wealth.
The wealthy have their money work for them with steadily increasing returns (in a stable economy) and they want to pay lower and lower taxes on it whereas everyone else has to work for ALL of their money and pay full taxes.

It's been no different for corporations as the mantra has become "oh, we need to pay less in taxes so that we can brings jobs back to the U.S." despite recent record profits for many companies not to mention the tax breaks under G.W. Bush to OFFSHORE American jobs for these companies.

Inevitably, as we're just starting to find out, when all of this works against the country as government brings in less and less revenue while jobs disappear and the economy shrinks, even the largest fortunes will becomes worthless or atleast greatly reduced when we hit rock bottom.

How we even got this far without extreme national dissent is still beyond me.

reply posted on 11-10-2009 @ 07:01 PM by ofhumandescent

reply to post by mikerussellus

You are a "Service to self" rather than "Service to Others'.

Keep in mind, what affects one, affects all of us and that is why we are in the mess we are in.

You my friend have swallowed the corporate america media crap hook line and sinker.

We unfortunately all hang together or die alone.

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reply posted on 11-10-2009 @ 07:19 PM by ofhumandescent

reply to post by mikerussellus

Service to self person vs service to others.

keep in mind - we all hang together or die alone.

you it seems prefer to die alone.

reply posted on 11-10-2009 @ 07:24 PM by Watcher-In-The-Shadows

reply to post by mikerussellus

Ah, so the poor must languish til someone doing better denigns to make themselves feel great about themselves by giving to some charity? That is what I am reading between the lines. And I must say what a wonderfully self serving device. You get to have people below you to look down upon and you get an ego boost by occasionally feeling like you have done something to help them when not really doing anything.

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reply posted on 11-10-2009 @ 07:33 PM by 12.21.12

reply to post by ofhumandescent

Start researching "revolution".

and pick your enemy wisely.

After years of research I finally realized that the possibility of me coming face to face with my enemy are slim to none.

"choose your weapons wisely". These are the bankers who would like to run our lives with money. Thats why you unwield the one thing that they don't won't you to have, the legalization of marijuana.

That is how the American Revolution was fought and won!

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reply posted on 11-10-2009 @ 07:40 PM by rapunzel222

reply to post by Kaytagg

huh; whats wrong with believing in the flood or moses story. i think you're the one who has been brainwashed into believing what the mainstream says cant be the case. the flood myth is world wide; u shud do some research on it. it could have flooded in a pole shift - see the book written by charles hapgood called path of the pole , which has an introduction written by einstein, no less who thought the theory was plausible. they didnt tell you that in school did they? i wonder why not? it could also have flooded if our moon wasnt the first moon in orbit around earth which many indigenous cultures believe. the moon might be hollow and artificial. check out 'who built the moon' from amazon.com. and 'parting the red sea' could just be advanced science. or the result of a massive earthquake. or tsunami probably advanced science tho.

you dont have to believe in fluffy angels and harps to take the bible seriously as a historic record. im not 'religious' at all per se. i think aliens were the ancient gods and the bible is the early accounts of their doings on earth; much like the sumerian texts...

maybe the majority isnt so wrong after all. altho i dont think most of them are using any critical thinking tho...

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