reply to post by brightlight
Hi Bright,
I, too, believe in a Creator, but people will still refute it.
And I don't see how anyone has total proof to back their beliefs. They don't, actually, because everything and anything can be a lie.
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reply posted on 5-9-2009 @ 02:28 AM by brightlight
reply to post by spellbound
Spell,
I've finished the series, 7 parts to it, and I am sold, that is why I used the word irrefutable, but I do understand what you speak of, I'll explain below.
In terms of your comment, it is more of a blocking mechanism that is employed by the unbelievers to this divine proof of a Creator and His work. It is a conscience decision made by them, it is their free will to choose -- that is the essence of a human being. Do they not have eyes to see, ears to hear, a brain to think on matters of such significance? Surely there are bountiful signs for those who reflect. Great epiphanies are reality in this world to those who ask, who open up to it, have a good heart and are surely being guided.
It is absolutely imperative for one's heart to be open in order to find, discover and embrace the sincerity of the Creators glorious, perfect, and infinitely beautiful creation.
Peace unto ALL
Spell,
I've finished the series, 7 parts to it, and I am sold, that is why I used the word irrefutable, but I do understand what you speak of, I'll explain below.
In terms of your comment, it is more of a blocking mechanism that is employed by the unbelievers to this divine proof of a Creator and His work. It is a conscience decision made by them, it is their free will to choose -- that is the essence of a human being. Do they not have eyes to see, ears to hear, a brain to think on matters of such significance? Surely there are bountiful signs for those who reflect. Great epiphanies are reality in this world to those who ask, who open up to it, have a good heart and are surely being guided.
It is absolutely imperative for one's heart to be open in order to find, discover and embrace the sincerity of the Creators glorious, perfect, and infinitely beautiful creation.
Peace unto ALL
reply posted on 5-9-2009 @ 02:36 AM by spellbound
reply to post by brightlight
S & F.
How can people not see the miracles all around?
The miracle of a flower, an animal, a human, a tree, a river, a lake. The miracle of a new baby being born?
And all the vegetables and fruits given to us?
Sadly, some people will persist in not seeing that miracle, and if they don't see, that is the end.
S & F.
How can people not see the miracles all around?
The miracle of a flower, an animal, a human, a tree, a river, a lake. The miracle of a new baby being born?
And all the vegetables and fruits given to us?
Sadly, some people will persist in not seeing that miracle, and if they don't see, that is the end.
reply posted on 5-9-2009 @ 02:39 AM by brightlight
reply to post by spellbound
How can something be made from nothing? Do they not reflect?
This series is EXPLOSIVE...and very, very moving.
Peace
How can something be made from nothing? Do they not reflect?
This series is EXPLOSIVE...and very, very moving.
Peace
reply posted on 5-9-2009 @ 02:43 AM by Copernicus
Originally posted by spellbound
reply to post by brightlight
S & F.
How can people not see the miracles all around?
The miracle of a flower, an animal, a human, a tree, a river, a lake. The miracle of a new baby being born?
And all the vegetables and fruits given to us?
Sadly, some people will persist in not seeing that miracle, and if they don't see, that is the end.
I think your definition of miracle differs from mine. You sound like its magic. Its just a process. Geological, biological, whatever kind.
[edit on 5-9-2009 by Copernicus]
reply posted on 5-9-2009 @ 02:49 AM by Republican08
The muslim at the first part of the intro exclaims “nothing came from nothing and then something came from nothing! This goes against logic.” Well
at least their looking at logic I suppose. Although, no one is really saying something came from nothing, except for the creationist, who say god goes
poof and there it is, but where did god come from? Well he’s been around forever you may say, well, not true, then why can’t the universe of been
around forever, excluding the idea that it need a ‘creator’ who can turn nothing into something.
Around 2:00-3:00 shows video clips of the universe…. Which was once taught by the same people religious people, to of been in the center, common thing, taking science and saying aha, we can say a creator did it now, while choosing not to believe a previous thought, one where people DIED for that thought!
A little later on, nonsense babbled, about how science can’t prove everything ala there must be a creator! Then sinister music in opposing views, and triumphet music for the guy who say there is a creator, common in religious circles to use this.
Aholes Five Things that prove god.
1) Where did the universe come from? He provides a point that minority of atheist propose, and the majority don’t believe. Says that atheist believe something came from nothing and by nothing. He says that doesn’t make sense. Then uses people’s emotions by saying cause, and purpose and other emotion pulling things, like a leech on emotions.
I believe that, a god that came from nothing from nothing, to be eternal, is more ridiculous then the universe we can observe coming from nothing by nothing, and we’re still learning where it came from, and it only gets more fascinating with the new theories, which this man, objects to.
2) The cause of the universe must come from a ‘being’ with unimaginable power, and unimaginable potential! I said the same thing to my neighbor when we watched a lightning storm, I said “Alas Zeus is pissed, you’ve done it now jones, you’ve pissed off zeus!” He claimed that it’s some particles exciting, and blasts and nonsense, but I said, can you see above the clouds right now, he said no, I said then how do you know a god of unimaginable and immense potential, isn’t up there right now, throwing lightning bolts down! There must be a producer of the lightning, it can’t just come from nothing!
Part two.
Goes on about the pyramids, in an OMG fashion, recites the same damn thing over and over again, and I feel almost like I could of built them myself to escape his repetitious phrases.
Some Sting like music in the background, creepy, using emotions.
Hey look I found a website, completely discreditting almost all he's said
I apologize, I couldn’t watch anymore, he just kept repeating the same thing with eerie music, and AHA words, and the same thing.
Nothing came from nothing by an act of nothing, to form something. It’s people like this that, need to learn, we’re still a very young race, and some of us are refusing to let our brains be dulled, by a what’s seen as fact, “God did it!” attitude.
Why is the earth round “God did it”.
Why do we breed, “God says to”
Why am I tall “God made you that way”
Why is the earth 6,000 yrs old “God made it superfast”.
This goes against, Science, Reason, Logic, Genetics, Physics, and almost everything.
Yet it’s irrefutable.
Well I guess he’s turned quite a few people over to islam.
Allahu Akbar.
Let’s go blow up another building now shan’t we, well, he is an apologists, so I guess he’s against that! Maybe.
[edit on 5-9-2009 by Republican08]
Around 2:00-3:00 shows video clips of the universe…. Which was once taught by the same people religious people, to of been in the center, common thing, taking science and saying aha, we can say a creator did it now, while choosing not to believe a previous thought, one where people DIED for that thought!
A little later on, nonsense babbled, about how science can’t prove everything ala there must be a creator! Then sinister music in opposing views, and triumphet music for the guy who say there is a creator, common in religious circles to use this.
Aholes Five Things that prove god.
1) Where did the universe come from? He provides a point that minority of atheist propose, and the majority don’t believe. Says that atheist believe something came from nothing and by nothing. He says that doesn’t make sense. Then uses people’s emotions by saying cause, and purpose and other emotion pulling things, like a leech on emotions.
I believe that, a god that came from nothing from nothing, to be eternal, is more ridiculous then the universe we can observe coming from nothing by nothing, and we’re still learning where it came from, and it only gets more fascinating with the new theories, which this man, objects to.
2) The cause of the universe must come from a ‘being’ with unimaginable power, and unimaginable potential! I said the same thing to my neighbor when we watched a lightning storm, I said “Alas Zeus is pissed, you’ve done it now jones, you’ve pissed off zeus!” He claimed that it’s some particles exciting, and blasts and nonsense, but I said, can you see above the clouds right now, he said no, I said then how do you know a god of unimaginable and immense potential, isn’t up there right now, throwing lightning bolts down! There must be a producer of the lightning, it can’t just come from nothing!
Part two.
Goes on about the pyramids, in an OMG fashion, recites the same damn thing over and over again, and I feel almost like I could of built them myself to escape his repetitious phrases.
Some Sting like music in the background, creepy, using emotions.
Hey look I found a website, completely discreditting almost all he's said
I apologize, I couldn’t watch anymore, he just kept repeating the same thing with eerie music, and AHA words, and the same thing.
Nothing came from nothing by an act of nothing, to form something. It’s people like this that, need to learn, we’re still a very young race, and some of us are refusing to let our brains be dulled, by a what’s seen as fact, “God did it!” attitude.
Why is the earth round “God did it”.
Why do we breed, “God says to”
Why am I tall “God made you that way”
Why is the earth 6,000 yrs old “God made it superfast”.
This goes against, Science, Reason, Logic, Genetics, Physics, and almost everything.
Yet it’s irrefutable.
Well I guess he’s turned quite a few people over to islam.
Allahu Akbar.
Let’s go blow up another building now shan’t we, well, he is an apologists, so I guess he’s against that! Maybe.
[edit on 5-9-2009 by Republican08]
reply posted on 5-9-2009 @ 02:51 AM by spellbound
reply to post by Copernicus
It is still magical.
Put it down to what you will.
How come these things happen - is it aliens, a creator, or who? There has to be something there that causes these things. People do not cause them, so who does?
And we should not take anything forgranted including our planet and everything that lives on this planet.
It is still magical.
Put it down to what you will.
How come these things happen - is it aliens, a creator, or who? There has to be something there that causes these things. People do not cause them, so who does?
And we should not take anything forgranted including our planet and everything that lives on this planet.
reply posted on 5-9-2009 @ 02:57 AM by Copernicus
Originally posted by spellbound
reply to post by Copernicus
How come these things happen - is it aliens, a creator, or who? There has to be something there that causes these things. People do not cause them, so who does?
Humans have nothing to do with the creation of a lake, or a flower coming into existence. Its natural processes of nature. It has nothing to do with a divine power. Nature is just a system like any other.
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