Is government health care socialism?, page 1
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Topic started on 4-9-2009 @ 09:29 PM by damwel
So is government health care socialism? Is welfare socialism? Is Medicare socialism? Are public schools socialism? Are the police who catch the guy breaking into your car socialism? Isn't the fact that you can't punch that idiot a**ho*e around you socialism?

OK, straight up. If a little girl is hurt and dying do you care where she came from? Does she need help, can you give it?

I made this thread about health care, the way I see it government run health care brings the health care corporations into line. It dampens the "greed factor" that I think most people would see is a real problem. A government based health care system that is voluntary would provide a ceiling against uncontrolled escalation of profit by the hospitals or the insurance companies, (there is not just one enemy in this fight).

I think it should be, imho, a better world if someone who was sick could get the best help possible at the moment.

Medicare for many Americans is all they have to help them "LIVE". It is government run and they don't want to let it go. It was a fight back then, just like now to "make it happen".

I see so many threads here that quote the idea, " They didn't come for me..., and when they came for me there was no one to object". I get it, and it's absolutley really but it really isn't that extreme. If someone stumbles in front of you, your instinct will make you reach to help them.

Isn't that what socialism is?

I think socialism is if my neighbor doesn't know how to change the oil in his car I can walk over and slide under his car, loosen a bolt and drain his oil into a pan he bought at wallmart. Maybe, just maybe someday when my ac is down he knows how to replace a blower motor. Know what I mean Vern?

If nothing else, that is socialism. Is that wrong, evil... ?

Socialism is not a dictatorship, socialism is the many trying to help the few.

light, peace, love and balance to all


Edit: I had to laugh at myself because I said "If a LITTLE GIRL NEEDED HELP", really I mean if any other person, wow, look I guess I am a sexist.




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reply posted on 4-9-2009 @ 11:01 PM by eMachine
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Yes, he's very idealistic indeed. I like to know what he and Ron Paul are saying... most of our other politicians are just spewing the same 'party line' all the time.

And I personally think it's awesome that he had the nerve to answer the 'alien encounter' question honestly at a public debate!



reply posted on 4-9-2009 @ 11:30 PM by damwel
reply to post by jam321



I've seen the temper of your posts here and so I say I am surprised, (but not disappointed) in your answer. Very glad to meet you! More to your post, I agree. Focusing on the idea of socialism in the face of what is happening is mindnumbing but it is a focus of many minds. Who is leading them that way?



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reply posted on 4-9-2009 @ 11:34 PM by damwel
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LOL, Where did you get that definition? This isn't the Rush Limbaugh with side-kick Glenn Beck show. Now.... Deny Ignorance

Ok, I apologize for that remark, you are entitled... (hear that?) it will haunt you later, to what you think. God bless you for at least thinking something



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reply posted on 4-9-2009 @ 11:36 PM by jam321
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Nice to meet you too.

Passionate yes- Temper NO

I'm just as frustrated as everybody else. Obama is not the root of all evil, nor is healthcare. We just got to find common ground that will benefit, not please, all.

Who's leading them- Hard to tell. Some people don't need leaders, they just go with the flow.

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reply posted on 4-9-2009 @ 11:40 PM by amari
Originally posted by damwel
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post by amari



LOL, Where did you get that definition? This isn't the Rush Limbaugh with side-kick Glenn Beck show. Now.... Deny Ignorance



No, I would never think of of quoting either one of them geniuses Rush Beck or

Glenn Limbaugh. ^Y^
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