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AP NewsBreak: Iran says US nuke documents 'forged'

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posted on Sep, 4 2009 @ 04:20 PM
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AP NewsBreak: Iran says US nuke documents 'forged'


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VIENNA – Iran accused the U.S. on Friday of using "forged documents" and relying on subterfuge to make its case that Tehran is trying to build a nuclear weapon, according to a confidential letter obtained by The Associated Press.

The eight-page letter — written by Iran's chief envoy to the U.N. nuclear agency in Vienna — denounces Washington's allegations against the Islamic Republic as "fabricated, baseless and false." The letter does not specify what documents Iran is alleging were forged.

It also lashes out at Britain and France for "ill will and political motivation" in
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posted on Sep, 4 2009 @ 04:20 PM
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Iran insists its nuclear activities are peaceful and geared solely toward generating electricity. The U.S. and key allies contend the Islamic Republic is covertly trying to build an atomic bomb.

Tehran has bristled at the agency's latest report, which accuses Iran of defiantly continuing to enrich uranium and refusing to clear up lingering questions about possible military dimensions to its nuclear program.

In the letter, a copy of which was obtained by the AP, Soltanieh insists that Iran has demonstrated "the full commitment of my country to its obligations" under an IAEA nuclear safeguards agreement.

But it takes sharp aim at Washington for giving the U.N. nuclear watchdog unspecified intelligence and other evidence allegedly recovered from a laptop computer that reportedly was smuggled out of Iran.

i was expecting something different from Iran :/

they seemed willing to co-operate knowing about the ultimatum till late sep 09

news.yahoo.com
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posted on Sep, 4 2009 @ 04:22 PM
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They could open the doors to every Nuclear Facility and have 24 hour guided tours and I still wouldn't trust them...

Sorry.



posted on Sep, 4 2009 @ 04:38 PM
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Originally posted by CanadianDream420
They could open the doors to every Nuclear Facility and have 24 hour guided tours and I still wouldn't trust them...

Sorry.


The same could be said for our Whitehouse!!



posted on Sep, 4 2009 @ 05:26 PM
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i mean..still couldnt beleive its true...so usa got nothing to say in return?



posted on Sep, 4 2009 @ 06:15 PM
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Originally posted by getreadyalready

Originally posted by CanadianDream420
They could open the doors to every Nuclear Facility and have 24 hour guided tours and I still wouldn't trust them...

Sorry.


The same could be said for our Whitehouse!!


Exactly! I don't trust what either says about the other. I think they are both lying and both may, secretly, desire war. These are dangerous times, aren't they?

[edit on 4/9/2009 by Iamonlyhuman]



posted on Sep, 4 2009 @ 07:45 PM
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It's not like we haven't seen America forge evidence before (Ahem, Iraq, Cough), so I don't see why it would surprise anyone.

Oh, yeah, that's right. With our short term memory, it's only the stuff that they say on the news everyday that we don't forget. So we won't even remember what happened with Iraq. I forgot about that.



posted on Sep, 4 2009 @ 07:56 PM
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S&F!!!
, History shows economic periods such as the one that we are currently experiencing is soon followed by a major military conflict (Iran among others in the 'axis of evil' are perfect targets.)... God help us all.



[edit on 4-9-2009 by Solar.Absolution]



posted on Sep, 4 2009 @ 08:30 PM
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Originally posted by heineken
i mean..still couldnt beleive its true...so usa got nothing to say in return?


I doubt the US has much to say to another silly pointless & predictable lie from the regime. They claim so much and even often claim they have evidence, but it's never forthcoming.



posted on Sep, 4 2009 @ 08:44 PM
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If Iran allowed inspectors 24 hour access, to there entire operation I wouldn't see problem.
If they are not making bama, nothing to hide just like Obama, nothing to hide, not nothing, But everything is hidden, he even hides to Smoke his cigarettes.
I would not allow Iran or nK to run a fast breeder reactor, I think that's what NK is doing, anyone know.

Sorry I had to put dig in on Obama, forgive me.

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posted on Sep, 4 2009 @ 09:10 PM
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Originally posted by googolplex
If Iran allowed inspectors 24 hour access, to there entire operation I wouldn't see problem.
If they are not making bama, nothing to hide just like Obama, nothing to hide, not nothing, But everything is hidden, he even hides to Smoke his cigarettes.
I would not allow Iran or nK to run a fast breeder reactor, I think that's what NK is doing, anyone know.

Sorry I had to put dig in on Obama, forgive me.

[edit on 4-9-2009 by googolplex]


Too funny if they let us monitor them 24 hours a day...let's play dirty secret time when it comes to just how this monitoring process often works and by whom:


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Jack McGeorge was the United Nations Weapons Inspector and Operations Officer in Iraq.

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Now lets review one little quote here again...

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You sure about this monitoring thing now?



posted on Sep, 4 2009 @ 10:33 PM
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Well it appears we need monitors, for the monitors.
That's why I will feel more safe when the AI is in place, monitoring things, they won't have the baggage humans carry with them.

Then it will be Jack! Jack! what are you doing Jack. Oh! Jack that's to tight Oh! tighter Jack.



posted on Sep, 4 2009 @ 10:53 PM
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Originally posted by googolplex
reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler
 
Well it appears we need monitors, for the monitors.
That's why I will feel more safe when the AI is in place, monitoring things, they won't have the baggage humans carry with them.

Then it will be Jack! Jack! what are you doing Jack. Oh! Jack that's to tight Oh! tighter Jack.


Laugh out loud they have monitors for the monitors they are called Dungeon Masters!

The point is when a man like Jack McGeorge gets on CNN and starts telling people what time of day it is somewhere half way around the world, do you really know who hides behind the thin veneer of the actors mask that you assume is well "A good old decent G-d fearing American?"

You really don't and the reality is Jack McGeorge was one of the saner and more ethical people working for the United Nations.

Comparatively speaking.

The problem with Artificial Intelligence is sooner or later it ends up being fed, reviewed and disseminated by human beings.

Human beings with their own agendas, and often secret agendas at that.

The U.N. was raping Iraq in the Oil for Food program, enriching itself off the corruption it created in how it administered it for U.N. Official's personal profit at the highest level of the United Nations.

Typical Council for Foreign Relations stooges and the reality is you really truly can not or should not believe a word coming out of the Government, the U.N. or the Media because Jack McGeorge really was one of the more honest and ethical ones.

The Military Industrial Complex will never stop breeding the lies or fostering the situations that keep it in business and make it so profitible.

The World is never going to be a safe place to live or ever evolve taking their word for the 'safety' of the world, and they do what they do for one darn reason to make you scared so you look to them to keep you safe, at a cost, a huge cost, not just in dollars but in freedoms, and in morals.

The problem is they don't just scare you though all their manipulations, machinations, extortions and lies, they scare the pants off of nations like Iran too. Is it really any wonder they would like to have a nuclear weapon when you look at the real history of Western Nations like England and the United States constantly destablizing their nation for profit because it has oil and wealth to be plundered. Just like Iraq.

We have to stop letting the Military Industrial Complex run the world, and run us.



posted on Sep, 4 2009 @ 11:24 PM
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I'm not really up to speed on the total depth of all this, but it is easy to have grasp on what is taking place.
Pretty much like the investigation they did on New York Police Department back in 70s, it seems 19% of the cops were bad, 10% were good, the other 80% would go either way.
So this pretty well sums up the way I view the 90% crooks that run our Government.

I just can't believe so many people myself included, were so blind as to how bad thing had really become with the corruption of the Government.


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posted on Sep, 5 2009 @ 01:26 AM
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Don't feel bad. Most people don't have any real idea what goes on in the world and how it runs or what the real rules and agendas are. Most of them really don't care. Ignorance is bliss.

The government has always been corrupt, really from it's very inception, when you take off the blinders, stop blindly believing and taking things at there face presented vaule, and start peeling back the layers there is a whole different world there.

The government in a lot of ways is just about creating a palatable and tollerable illusion for the people who really don't want to care, and don't really want to know and be blissful and ignorant.

Of course they lie, cheat, still, rob, kill and live out deviant sexual fantasies all the while to make it worth getting out of bed in the morning and showing up on the job, but hey, that's the price you and they pay for believing its safe to believe.

They have been after Iran for years, since before World War II, since oil becam valuable. The Powers that Be simply can not tollerate a situation where they can't make money off of things. Look what they have done to China, for pity's sake their supposed to be and claim to be communists.

They will lie, cheat, steal, threaten, kill, forge, frame, bribe, any darn thing they need to do to get control of a resource and profit off of it, what ever that resource is, who ever has it.

They won't let up on Iran until they can have it or control it. Has not one thing to do with Iran being a danger to you or me or anyone else.

Our government is nothing but a corporation. A pretty violent, and devious one at that.



posted on Sep, 5 2009 @ 02:27 AM
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Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler

We have to stop letting the Military Industrial Complex run the world, and run us.



In a BBC article earlier last week they mentioned that nearly 300,000 people alone in the UK work in the defence industry. That's the big corps all the way down to the small suppliers and subcontractors.

Now then, think for a minute what would happen if peace broke out all over!
The beast needs feeding. Where there is no conflict, the bankers and the politicians will nurture it, after all, war is a highly profitable enterprise..... for some! If another country has something they want then they'll cook up a little conflict, or maybe just work to destabilise another government to install someone friendlier to their interests.

In the words of USMC Major General Smedley Butler in 1933:


I spent thirty- three years and four months in active military service as a member of this country's most agile military force, the Marine Corps. I served in all commissioned ranks from Second Lieutenant to Major-General. And during that period, I spent most of my time being a high class muscle- man for Big Business, for Wall Street and for the Bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism.

I suspected I was just part of a racket at the time. Now I am sure of it. Like all the members of the military profession, I never had a thought of my own until I left the service. My mental faculties remained in suspended animation while I obeyed the orders of higher-ups. This is typical with everyone in the military service.

I helped make Mexico, especially Tampico, safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefits of Wall Street. The record of racketeering is long. I helped purify Nicaragua for the international banking house of Brown Brothers in 1909-1912. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for American sugar interests in 1916. In China I helped to see to it that Standard Oil went its way unmolested.

During those years, I had, as the boys in the back room would say, a swell racket. Looking back on it, I feel that I could have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate his racket in three districts. I operated on three continents.



posted on Sep, 5 2009 @ 01:14 PM
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Ah good old Major General Smedgely Darlington Butler. He is most famous for exposing a plot by the Powers that Be to carry out a coup against the Rossevelt Administration that the Powers that Be attempted to recruit him to lead.

Though Roosevelt remained grateful to his dying day the Main Stream Press owned by the Powers that Be weren't who accused him of having fabricated the story as revenge for being passed up for Comadant of the Marine Core which he was in line for until he gave his famous 'War is a Racket Speech' you quoted from above.

You hit the nail right on the head on how they will and do fabricated and instigate anything needed to get the public to go along for and pay for their acquisitions.

It truly is a sorry state of affairs.



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