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You said : "Our government" orchestrated pearl harbor.
Originally posted by smurfy
reply to post by Donny 4 million
Hi Donny,
I would be only happy to have more info, please send.
Originally posted by GoldenFleece
reply to post by weedwhacker
If you can't discredit the information, attack the source.
I thought you weren't going to participate in 9/11 discussions anymore.
Please don't tell me that after all the information that's come out in eight years, you STILL believe the official 9/11 story?
Could anyone really be that gullible, or are the implications of U.S. government complicity too horrific to consider?
I'm also sure that the video shows something that is at as near to ground level as can be for something flying, so much for a crappy pilot!
Originally posted by smurfy
Who's Jim Ritter?
MuckupAgain (1 year ago)
I think he called back to explain that it was not his place to enter into further discourse on the subject. As he said, he reported the facts of the case (the FDR traces being facts).
As i understand it, the NTSB reports to the FBI in this case. It is then the FBIs responsibility to report the findings (i'll get around to your reference when i can).
Perhaps you can indulge me a little: is the altitude data in the FDR is based on one altimeter feed? Is the baro setting also recorded?
johndoeXLC (1 year ago)
Im sorry Muck, but i dont have much time today. Please feel free to email us or join our forum for tons of information. Specifically in the pinned topics of our AA77 forum at pilotsfor911truth*org/forum. We also have radar altitude. Shows too high. The NTSB/FBI refuse to correct, comment, retract etc. Unprecedented. Also, none of the 4 aircraft on 9/11 were positively Identified via parts. Also unprecendented. Visit our site for more.
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revtrst (4 months ago)
Are these pilots qualified to analyze FDR data? Are you qualified? And how many pilots, engineers, mechanics etc are there in the world. PFT has but a TINY number of them. And what are you talking about altimeter readings and time stamps? I said nothing regarding either one.
MuckupAgain (1 year ago)
Sorry to ask questions that may already have been dealt with, but info like this is sketchy on the web.
I think i would just like to know whether the altitude reading to the FDR is infallible? If Baro settings are not recorded then, in theory, the altitude means nothing other than informing us what the pilot was seeing on his alt. at the time.
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revtrst (4 months ago)
A washed up RJ pilot who thinks he knows more about FDR than the NTSB. Very, very, very sad.
Originally posted by Pathos
Concluding that 9/11 is a Government Conspiracy is Grotesque
But inevitable nonetheless if you actually look at the holes in the official story. That would mean you holding your nose, fighting down your disgust, and doing some research. I won't hurry you. Like any Big Lie, for some people letting go if it is difficult.
If I have to relate the comments in this section to a specific person, I would have thought they were coming from Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. According to that creep over in Iran, he said that the Holocaust never happened. I see people in these boards saying the exact same thing, but they replaced the Holocaust with 9/11.
You're clearly someone who takes the MSM point of view very seriously. I have no brief for Ahmedinejad but equally well I recognise he's become the handle on which to hang the propaganda campaign against Iran, which the neocons desperately wanted to invade, or at least attack, right to the last. I don't know of his remarks on the Holocaust (and I'm not going to check now, sorry) but it's definitely the case that he was mistranslated when he was supposed to have made the remark about "wiping Israel off the map". The people responsible were MEMRI, an Israeli think tank who have people on the media in the US, UK and elsewhere, defending Zionism and spreading disinfo.
Your government lies to you. All the time. You really, really need to acknowledge that fact even before looking into 9/11.
I am not sure if some of you get off on this debate. I do not understand how a person could blame a sitting US President for killing 2,000+ of his own citizens. I find it revolting, grotesque, and freakish.
Like many people on this board, I don't think Dubya hisself had too much to do with it. I think he was presented with a fait accompli and he just had to front it out. Why would they include someone so dumb? No doubt you think that it's revolting, grotesque and freakish to say something like that about a one-time POTUS, but you know out in the free world we don't have that religious attachment to the one who's supposed to be our leader.
I keep asking myself "What type of human being do you have to be in order to believe 9/11 is a conspiracy?" After pondering this question for a few days, I concluded that there is something seriously wrong with some of you.
What about the ones that don't have anything wrong with them?
American Exceptionalism
Mmm yes... sorry, it's pathetic for those of us who actually know what the US has been doing for the past 50 years. I tuned out when the guy said the US didn't throw its weight around after WWII... If you had any idea of the role the US and the CIA has played in subverting democracy around the world, you wouldn't be so starry-eyed. But that would mean you'd have to get our head around the idea that the US isn't some glorious shining "city on the hill". It's corrupt in every way, and the rest of the world pays the price.
What you 'truthers' lack is a shred of humanity.
Actually what we lack is the ability to believe the corporate nonsense we're fed. My humanity's fine: how's yours? As a test, you might like to look at this thread which is unconnected to 9/11 which nonetheless deals with a very real conspiracy to cover up war crimes. It contains pictures which might allow you to check your humanity. Who's telling the truth, the government, or the peoplw who oppose them?