reply to post by Pathos
Let me offer some examples as a reminder of how much the US gov cares about us and how open and honest they always are with us.
They lied about WMDs in Iraq and tried to make us all think Iraq was connected to 9/11 so they could start a war there for god knows what all reasons,
not least of which being how much money so many companies are making off of it. The debt is not just money that has disappeared into any hole. It
disappeared into companies like GE's and Lockheed Martin's pockets. How often are we reminded of this? How often do we look under THAT rug for
conflicts of interest? Never
. Because, the secret is, companies like GE also own huge portions of major media
. Conflict of interest?
No, it's military strategy. Look up "Project Mockingbird" if you have the guts. We are the aggressor nation in these wars, just like Nazi Germany
being the aggressor but coming up with all kinds of anti-Commie propaganda to keep people stupid and scared enough to go along with it. Because it
They blew up the Gulf of Tonkin incident and lied about it to finally us get full-blown into Vietnam, which was about the stupidest and most
pointless war in the last 100 years, all the reasons given for going being shown erroneous in the end ("domino theory," all that BS). More business
for the military industry when otherwise none would be had, companies like GE again.
They lied about the USS Maine, saying a Spanish mine blew it up until the 1970's when the Navy FINALLY proved beyond a doubt that it was an internal
explosion. Before ANY investigation was launched, the media giants here in the US were instantly accusing Spain of the sinking of that ship and
promptly got us into the Spanish-American War because of it.
There is a very reasonable doubt that military commanders knew Pearl Harbor was coming before it did, since it's been admitted that Japanese
messages discussing the attack were intercepted a year in advance and were estimated to have taken 6 months to decipher, FDR and the military wanted
to enter WWII while most of the country did not, and the lucky coincidence that many aircraft carriers and other crucial equipment was sent away from
Pearl Harbor on the day of the attacks for exercises, just like the wargame exercises that happened to coincidence with 9/11 and interfered with those
events, and just like the London Bombings which also had exercises going on simultaneously that mocked the actual bombing.
There were DoD, FEMA, and other military affadavits and memos confirming the fact that additional, unexploded bombs were removed from inside
the Murrah Federal Building
after the Oklahoma City Bombing. There was huge controversy at one point over where the explosions came from the
truck, or actually from inside the building, and how many there were, but there is no denying that additional bombs were inside the building that
were later removed, that never detonated. Why? Where did they come from? Etc. Maybe they will be nice
enough to let you know 50 years from
Let's see... Tuskegee experiments. They gave a bunch of African Americans syphilis just to see what it would do.
Similarly they gave a bunch of women in Virginia an experimental drug without their notification or consent which sterilized all the women.
The CIA used to go around the country giving people '___' as an experiment, just to see what it would do to people. In one case they abducted a
Canadian woman and locked her in a room for several hours without telling her what they had given her. All this being the stuff they deemed
appropriate to tell us about later, I've heard many other stories about what the CIA used to do to people with '___'. How is this stuff different
than Nazi medical experiments? And btw in case you didn't know, we DID take a lot of Nazi scientists back to the US with us after WWII, including
propaganda specialists and rocket scientists. Which are both obviously MILITARY assets. Are you seeing a common theme with our military here???
Hmmm.... Follow the money much?
And what else... Project Mockingbird. Look that one up. Diverting major media to make it conform to US foreign policy, for propaganda purposes,
Why should US leadership, be it military leadership, intelligence, pharmaceuticals, any of it, why should it not be susceptible to the exact same
human corruption that has followed us throughout history since as long as we have been recording it? Why in the HELL would you have such blind and
comforting faith in your government, like a babe to a teat, when your own ancestry and DNA no doubt demonstrates what I am talking about? For
example, I'm Irish/English/German. I take pride in my heritage, and the Irish have gone through one HELL of a history and are still suffering for
freedom. Leaders, with so much power gone to their heads, are NOT compassionate. They are callous with always hearing about so many deaths, which,
as Stalin himself said, become statistics, not tragedies. It wasn't much more than 50 years ago that Stalin, Hitler, and Mussolini all very easily
assumed power. Because people like you don't have the guts to be vigilant and stay in the face of authority to keep them in line. I want
transparency. I want to KNOW all the information I am entitled to as a citizen for which MY government serves. It's not grotesque; it's freaking
stupid NOT to be vigilant. This country was FOUNDED on these principles, and it is NOT unpatriotic to question your government at every single step
it tries to take. Because power will very easily come to do just what power wants. You don't understand that. And so you don't really understand
how Hitler or Mussolini came to power in the first place. But it happens. Do you really want to accept responsibility for allowing something like
that to happen, over simply ASKING QUESTIONS until you get the answers you are looking for?
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